Fla Cowpoke
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Are you really using these stats as a negative against Romo?
Is Dak the only super greedy QB in Cowboys history?
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You are correct in overall points assigned by the values of votes for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place ballots. It is reflected in the breakdown you copied from the article in columns two and three. For example, here is the breakdown for Lamar Jackson:You are wrong.
Dak came in 2nd place in MVP voting in 2023.
NFL MVP
Voting results for the 2023 NFL MVP award, as selected by The Associated Press in balloting by a nationwide panel of media. Voting is on a 10-5-3-2-1 basis.
Votes Points Lamar Jackson, Ravens 49-0-1-0-0 493 Dak Prescott, Cowboys 0-17-13-11-6 152 Christian McCaffrey, 49ers 0-17-12-11-4 147 Brock Purdy, 49ers 0-9-5-12-13 97 Josh Allen, Bills 1-5-11-3-6 80 Tyreek Hill, Dolphins 0-2-6-9-14 60 Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs 0-0-2-2-2 12 Matthew Stafford, Rams 0-0-0-2-0 4 C.J. Stroud, Texans 0-0-0-0-4 4 Myles Garrett, Browns 0-0-0-0-1 1
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39488311/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-wins-2nd-career-nfl-mvp-award
1st ballot: 49 votes = 490 points (1 vote X 10 points each)
2nd ballot: 0 votes = 0 points (0 votes X 5 points each)
3rd ballot: 1 votes = 3 points (1 vote X 3 points each)
4th ballot: 0 votes = 0 points (0 votes X 2 points each)
5th ballot: 0 votes = 0 points (0 votes X 1 point each)
Jackson's total points: 490 + 0 + 3 + 0 + 0 = 493
The same formula is applied to all players, where the voters conduct five rounds of voting for each player. Each player receives a total of 50 votes.
@Jarv is correct as far as first-ballot votes received by Tony Romo and Dak Prescott. There was only one round of voting (first-ballot only) for the 2014 regular season award. Romo received two first-ballot votes out of the 50 total first-ballot votes. The complete breakdown of first-ballot 2014 votes is shown at the pro-football-reference.com link provided.
The AP evolved their voting process to a point-based system later. The modification expanded to first, second, third, fourth and fifth ballot rounds. In 2023, as shown in the graphic (in the second column) you posted from the article, Prescott's breakdown was:
1st ballot: 0 votes = 0 points (0 vote X 10 points each)
2nd ballot: 17 votes = 85 points (17 votes X 5 points each)
3rd ballot: 13 votes = 39 points (13 vote X 3 points each)
4th ballot: 11 votes = 22 points (11 votes X 2 points each)
5th ballot: 6 votes = 6 points (6 votes X 1 point each)
Prescott's total points: 0 + 85 + 39 + 22 + 6 = 152
It should also be noted that in the same article you linked states:
Jackson was the landslide winner, receiving 49 of the 50 first-place votes to fall one shy of another unanimous selection... The other first-place vote for MVP this season went to Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen, who finished fifth in the voting.
Unquestionably, Prescott finished second in the MVP race with the second most points based on the AP votes. It is also unquestionable Prescott did not receive a single first-ballot vote while finishing as the runner-up.
This fact applies to all players in the current balloting system. Christian McCaffrey did not receive a single first-ballot vote while finishing in third place.
What does this all mean? It means your counterargument only includes a part of the MVP voting process. It does not include the entire process, even though you posted it for all members to review.
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You can tell a valid critique from one that is personal. When Romo was QB, people had many valid Critiques and I never took them personal. On this board, some would tell you to find another team if you critiqued Dak on the other hand, which is just ridiculous.
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Sure there are some real haters out there, and then there are people who are just classless as well.
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8 touchdowns in 6 games kind of sucks…6 games in general for a whole career sucks.
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It is. Fans who got love for players will fight for their fandom.
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which is another reason some people get riled up, some are willing to throw any other players under the bus for their favorite, never mind that they piss off other fans doing so.
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got no answer for that do you?
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Makes me want to barf whenever anyone mentions Dak in "runner up" MVP race last year lol.... Dak was great against mediocre teams last season and stat padded, that's it. He was helped by a good defense that pinned their ears back and would get turnovers. Please watch film. When push came to shove against good teams, he was bottom of the barrel. It's all fools gold with Dak. Dak has never made WRs, he's always had to have all-pro receivers. Romo made WRs look better than they were. Romo never had a defense, Romo never had a prime Zeke/Gallup/Shultz/Cooper/CDee. Please take off the delulu glasses and stop making excuses for a bum QB.
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Gotta hand it to Dak, he definitely spends a lot of time with his online fangirls during the offseason. He may be a low IQ, low talent plug on the field but he treats his stans well. Tiny circus bikes, free clown gear, anti-Romo seminars... you name it.
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Talk about a fail - no need to pile on any further. Just let Dak go.
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Romo has a vastly superior Arm to Dak and he runs circles around Dak when it comes to reading defenses. Why do you think Dak had such a successful Rookie year? He had Romo in his ear telling him what the defense was going to do. There isn't a universe that exists where Dak is better than Romo.
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For a better owner he might consider it. He’s been around the Cowboys long enough to know if he played for free Jerry Jones could not put together a team of consequence. As incredible as it might seem, a majority of Cowboys fans are more stupid than Jerry. Do the only thing. Accept it.
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Putting a QB in a closet with the owner and head coach to negotiate a contract, just the three of them, would be a blatant violation of the CBA today.
Per the current CBA, a member team is prohibited from negotiating a contract with a player without the player’s representatives present. Only exception is if player represents himself.
This was implemented to prevent a player from being intimidated or coerced into signing a below market contract or agreeing to conditions that would be overly favorable to the club.
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True but that's not all his fault.
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Wrong. Romo was never the highest paid player in the NFL.
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He can read the defense 10x beter than Dak can do. Dak is a deer in the headlights.
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Stop with the " Dak was MVP runner up" Who cares!!! Dak received 1 first place vote for MVP.