Is Dak the only super greedy QB in Cowboys history?

[bottleKids]

Chat GPT tells me otherwise...

Tony Romo was among the higher-paid quarterbacks during his NFL career, but he was never the highest-paid player in any given season. In 2007, he signed a six-year, $67.5 million contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys, making him the third highest-paid quarterback at that time, behind Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer.
In 2013, Romo secured a six-year, $108 million extension, averaging $18 million per year. While substantial, this contract did not make him the league's highest-paid player.
Throughout his 14-year career with the Cowboys, Romo earned approximately $127 million.
Therefore, although Romo was well-compensated, he was never the top-earning NFL player in any single season."

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nope those are both percentage of the cap by AAVs of the year they signed.

All these guys have voidable years so I'm not sure it makes that much of a difference. Even Romo had voidable years build in, but it didnt matter once they extended him and then he retired early so that money came due sooner. By adding those in then Mahomes has a 14 year agreement. It still doesnt help the issues that Dak's been given 4 year deals facing free agency while other guys are signing longer deals while still playing under rookie contracts. This is a huge miss by Jerry and Stephen. Decent chance they do utilize voidable years in Daks deal, it just becomes a scary game to play because what are the odds hes still playing at a high level after age 36? My guess is the both parties will go their separate ways after the current agreement, having money in void years just takes away some of the advantage of a rookie QB deal at this point.

ofcourse the money always comes due and its big part of dead cap, counting aganist your cap. but voidable years allow you to push bonuses to those years, thus reducing the yearly cap hit....and yes, when its all said and done, you have to account for it in the voidable year cap...but that's how every team does it.

and yes, Dak having a 4 year contract limits how much we can do, but not sure if that was by design by Joneses to claim they can't manuver. Dak had agreed to a 6 year contract with two voidable years before.

Jerry and stephen are not upfront about the way they do business. its all lip service with one goal, to maximize money for themselves. winning is secondary.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Just like "No True Scotsman", huh?

If it didn't make a difference then why did the team do a 180 from how they played in the regular season?

The answer is because Romo, the leader of the team, never took being a champion seriously so he would let himself, and his team get distracted with being celebrities and living the rich and famous lifestyle rather than put that on hold for a few weeks to devote 100% concentration on the playoffs.

It was inexcusable.

Stone cold FACT!!!

 

[DallasEast]

Let’s clarify how many first place votes did he get. Everyone knows it’s a total of 1st 2nd and so forth but the fact is Dak received exactly 0 first place votes

I had already created a thorough thread on the topic last July:

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak...tes-according-to-the-associated-press.525500/

So, it is important to clarify (as you have done) Dak Prescott received zero first-place votes because the automatic counterargument will be he received the second most points according to votes casted. Similarly, the contention (not by you but others) that Prescott's second-most total points is significant for runner-up is, in my opinion, not really that significant for two reasons:

1. Lamar Jackson received 98% of all first-place votes and 46% of all points. No other player, including Prescott, finished remotely within his vicinity for the award. In other words, Jackson dusted all other finalists.
2. In terms of total points, there was a tight finish between second-place Prescott (152) and third-place Christian McCaffrey (147) by a super thin margin of five points.

My opinion would be different if Prescott or any other player had markedly cut into Jackson's first place votes, which accounts for the most points a player can receive. Say, for instance, 20 first-place votes, which would have been 200 points solely from top tier votes alone.

That scenario would have likely increased the margin between McCaffrey and himself also. Then Prescott would have finished as an 'undisputed' second-place finisher to Jackson, with the voting and points reflecting how voters considered Prescott's season comparative to Jackson's.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Quit making excuses. Romo choked as hard as any QB has ever choked by fumbling that ball. Nobody else did in that game, just Romo at the absolute worst possible time on an easy chip shot FG. Should have been looking for his replacement at that moment.

He also choked in three straight win and get in or go home games to all three division rivals by coming up small when it mattered most.

 

[gtb1943]

Quit making excuses. Romo choked as hard as any QB has ever choked by fumbling that ball. Nobody else did in that game, just Romo at the absolute worst possible time on an easy chip shot FG. Should have been looking for his replacement at that moment.

He also choked in three straight win and get in or go home games to all three division rivals by coming up small when it mattered most.

quit posting fantasies

 

[gtb1943]

Stone cold FACT!!!

hateful fantasies are not fact

 

[shabazz]

Geez the Romo hate is great in this one

It the age old ploy of " Look over there, not over here"

Doesn't change a thing with our current situation.......but as I've said before, the GM is responsible.....not the player or his agent

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Stop propping up your arguments with false narratives about Tony Romo.
Both QBs are more similar than you want to believe. Both were above average; neither was elite.

Romo - don’t tell me he never played with great team.

Excellent QB, but his fans will argue he never had a good team. Ummm….Flozel Adams, Kyle Kozier, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo on OL with TE Jason Whitten, WRs TO, Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton at the same time, and Miles Austin, RBs Demarco Murray, Julius Jones and Marion Barbour. On Defense, he had Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Chris Canty, Greg Ellis, DeMarcus Ware, Bradie James, Terence Newman, Jacque Reeves, Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin. Rolled through the NFC and went into the playoffs with the bye and #1 seed, but after his trip to CABO in the bye week, they lost to the lowest wild card team NY Giants 21-17 in a game where he only completed 50% of his passes despite the team rushing for 154 yards while holding the Giants to 90 rushing and 163 passing. That was the worst loss in Cowboys history in my opinion.

Only problem with your argument....Tony walked on...dak drafted 4th.

Tony era had many great qbs....several are/will be HoFers. And he has comparable stats...

As a walk on.

Who does that?

So you argument...and the people who gave you likes (other Romo haters)...is bullship. Not alike at all.

 

[HungryLion]

I'll take Romo 10 times out of 10 over Dak.

If we are taking back retired QB’s. I’ll take aikman please and thank you.

 

[5Stars]

If I end up like AC at 50? I’d take it. Seems like a good dude he ain’t a hater. Being like you at 50 might bring up menopause and depression.

Oh, I knew you were a female. You blew your cover, honey pie. That explains your hard love for the Dakky Poo.

 

[thunderpimp91]

ofcourse the money always comes due and its big part of dead cap, counting aganist your cap. but voidable years allow you to push bonuses to those years, thus reducing the yearly cap hit....and yes, when its all said and done, you have to account for it in the voidable year cap...but that's how every team does it.

and yes, Dak having a 4 year contract limits how much we can do, but not sure if that was by design by Joneses to claim they can't manuver. Dak had agreed to a 6 year contract with two voidable years before.

Jerry and stephen are not upfront about the way they do business. its all lip service with one goal, to maximize money for themselves. winning is secondary.

I hear you, and I think we agree more on a fundamental level than it would seem, its just some smaller details that are really making the back and forth. You're absolutely right about the void years, but its how those void years are being used. Daks last contract pushed money into the void years, and his $260M contract now has $290M in cap hits left to be accounted for. This puts the Cowboys in a terrible cap situation, but I agree with you that this is on the Cowboys. Other teams spend money to manipulate and free up cap space. The Cowboys manipulate the cap so they can tell their fans they cant spend any money.

I'm not even trying to blame Dak, its just Jerry/Stephen handled this the worst way possible. They couldn't make a decision if he was their guy or not, franchised him and then signed him for two four year deals. This last extension came at the worst possible time so they could avoid spending in free agency. They literally lost the negotiations in every way possible, and used Dak as an excuse to not spend additional cash.

 

[Hadenough]

Super greedy?

Dak started for four years on a 4th round rookie contract, averaging $680,000 a year.

During that time, he never miossed a single game. He started all 64 regular season games, with the team going 40-24. He made two Pro Bowls, averaged 3994 yards and 24 passing TD's a season. He also averaged 330 rushing yards and 5 TD's per season.

Meanwhile, Jared Goff, the #1 overall pick in the same draft as Dak, averaged 3553 yards and 22 TD's per season on his rookie contract, an average of 6.9 million dollars, more than ten times Dak's contract at the same time.

I'm guessing that Dak felt very strongly that some other player should be willing to offer a discount.

I'm not saying he should have been given his most recent contract. I'm saying he has that contract due to Jerry's incompetence and not his "super greed".

You can't look at stats when looking at QBs because divisions are different and in different eras the division can be better or worse.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh, I knew you were a female. You blew your cover, honey pie. That explains your hard love for the Dakky Poo.

It went over your head but we have already establish you want me to be a female for your weird obsession. Your hard love for me is sick.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Super greedy?

Dak started for four years on a 4th round rookie contract, averaging $680,000 a year.

During that time, he never miossed a single game. He started all 64 regular season games, with the team going 40-24. He made two Pro Bowls, averaged 3994 yards and 24 passing TD's a season. He also averaged 330 rushing yards and 5 TD's per season.

Meanwhile, Jared Goff, the #1 overall pick in the same draft as Dak, averaged 3553 yards and 22 TD's per season on his rookie contract, an average of 6.9 million dollars, more than ten times Dak's contract at the same time.

I'm guessing that Dak felt very strongly that some other player should be willing to offer a discount.

I'm not saying he should have been given his most recent contract. I'm saying he has that contract due to Jerry's incompetence and not his "super greed".

Great points.

 

[Hadenough]

Romo was the better QB. He may have made those mistakes but he always went down swinging. Dak is like a little girl who just quits.

 

[5Stars]

It went over your head but we have already establish you want me to be a female for your weird obsession. Your hard love for me is sick.

No back peddling now, girl. lmao. Your tongue just gave you away.

I do not love you, madam!

 

[Runwildboys]

Oh, I knew you were a female. You blew your cover, honey pie. That explains your hard love for the Dakky Poo.

To be fair, I'm going through male menopause myself, but that's due to my meds

 

[Vtwin]

If I end up like AC at 50? I’d take it. Seems like a good dude he ain’t a hater. Being like you at 50 might bring up menopause and depression.

You're already like him in your mid 30's.

By 50's you'll be some sort of AC/Whoopie Goldberg/Rosie O'Donnell mutant.

(psst... don't look now but you're posting in a thread started by AC hating on two Cowboys' QB's. You really should get control of your emotions and pay better attention, ma'am)

 

[5Stars]

You're already like him in your mid 30's.

By 50's you'll be some sort of AC/Whoopie Goldberg/Rosie O'Donnell mutant.

(psst... don't look now but you're posting in a thread started by AC hating on two Cowboys' QB's. You really should get control of your emotions and pay better attention, ma'am)

Now I'm starting to wonder about AC? lmao.

I knew there was something fishy going on with those two.