Is football ready for Gay Player?

[mr.jameswoods]

The only men encouraged to take other wives were those who were supposed to take their dead brother's wife (even if he already had a wife) so she wouldn't be left childless. Solomon took hundreds of wives, to his own detriment, if you read how his life finished.

As for killing, God isn't "afraid" to do anything. He's God. And though I've read the Bible through, I don't recall a parable about killing for the sake of killing. I assume you're referring to God instructing the children of Israel to destroy the inhabitants of the promised land. He told them if they didn't, they'd adopt the canaanites way of living and worshipping false gods. The Israelites failed to annihilate the inhabitants of the promised land, and eventually became like them to the point God divorced Himself from Israel for a season. There is punishment for failing to follow God. God also says that He is a very jealous God. He wiped out virtually the entire human race in the great flood, and no doubt, little children perished at Sodom.

Do I understand it all? No. No one does. But I do know that He showed the greatest act of love mankind will ever see in Jesus.

This discussion could go on for hours. I respect your beliefs. I have many friends that share your view. I think where I differ with most conservative Christians is in the writings of Saul or Paul. Paul was instrumental for organizing the Christian code of conduct. I find it odd that a person who never met Jesus or lived during the time of Jesus, was suddenly blinded by his "image" in the desert and suddenly decides to tell people how to behave. Sorry, not buying that. Sounds a little too David Koresh like to me. But again, that's just my opinion.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think you are giving humanity a bit more credit than is merited.

Is this possible? After all, you've been reading all our post for what, a good two years now? Surely this counts for something.

 

[Mike 1967]

Then explain how dogs have attacked their owners in their past? Furthermore, you don't think it takes some level of conscience to recognize there is a pecking order? Of course there are different levels of intellect/awareness and concience among all animal species. However, I think it's rather simplistic to assume that all animals lack conscience and intelligence just because they are animals. Again, that belief is upheld by conservative Christians but many eastern religions as well Christians do believe animals have souls and levels of concience

Because at the end of the day the dog is an animal. I don't need to be a "Christian" to see that.

So the eastern religions say that animals have "levels" ? May be a different shade of black...but it's still black.

 

[fortdick]

There are Lesbians on the LPGA?

 

[Alexander]

All lesbians don't wear flannel shirts or play on the LPGA tour.

But they ALL wear khakis and comfortable shoes. Take a look around. You'll see.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the reason coming out is so celebrated is because of the lack of understanding, the closed minded intolerance, and the down right ignorance that many show.

It is too bad that many of you are taking the Christ out of christian.

 

[AbeBeta]

Should we now go into a lengthy dissertation about how unhealthy it is to practice anal sex ?

Actually most data show that is among the least common ways that gay men have sex.

Ya see -- i'm here to educate as well as argue.

 

[fortdick]

If Tony Romo came out and said he was gay, would you be more supportive of Henson as backup?

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

1-Does using the lord's name on a football bulletin board thread about gay athletes qualify as using his name in vain?

2-I know this is an ignorant comment but hey it's just a football bulletin board thread about gay athletes: I have welcomed the overtly effeminate (and quite possibly gay) Jeff Garcia onto my fantasy squad as a backup and his new teammates don't seem to mind...

 

[Mike 1967]

I think you are giving humanity a bit more credit than is merited.

If you knew me you would find that comment funny.

The older I get...the less credit I give the human race.

And I don't credit humans with the conscience that they were born with.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Because at the end of the day the dog is an animal. I don't need to be a "Christian" to see that.

So the eastern religions say that animals have "levels" ? May be a different shade of black...but it's still black.

Technically, we are animals too, mammals to be more specific.

I was speaking in regards to levels of awareness but they do believe they have souls. Hinduism for example believes that people are reincartated and according to their karma can reborn as a human being or an animal etc.

 

[fortdick]

Actually most data show that is among the least common ways that gay men have sex.

Ya see -- i'm here to educate as well as argue.

That is kinda scary. Why would someone look that up?

 

[Mike 1967]

1-Does using the lord's name on a football bulletin board thread about gay athletes qualify as using his name in vain?

2-I know this is an ignorant comment but hey it's just a football bulletin board thread about gay athletes: I have welcomed the overtly effeminate (and quite possibly gay) Jeff Garcia onto my fantasy squad as a backup and his new teammates don't seem to mind...

Answer to Question 1 - No.

 

[AbeBeta]

That is kinda scary. Why would someone look that up?

To be scientific rather than promote ignorance and misinformation?

 

[Mike 1967]

Levels of awareness but they do believe they have souls. Hinduism for example believes that people are reincartated and according to their karma can reborn as a human being or an animal etc.

Levels of awareness is simply another way to package the point that I was making.

I knew a guy once who believed he was a tree. Reality is not predicated on belief.

If a tree falls in a forest it still makes noise wether or not I am there to hear it or not.

 

[fortdick]

To be scientific rather than promote ignorance and misinformation?

Too much information for me!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thing is you never did answer it. My point is/was that WHY does society still have an issue with this. My hypothesis is/was that it is much easier to talk smack, point out others' issues rather than dealing with our own. It is always, this guy needs help, or what they are doing is wrong, never is it: man I am a closed minded awesome person, I should try to see others' point of view.

Not so. This is what you asked.

~It is the year 2005, shouldn't we be over this whole topic now?~

I answer it with the following.

~Society is what it is, good or bad. The fact that this question is being asked would seem to indicate that Society is not ready to accept this. In short, the answer to your question is no.

It is still an issue with Society.~

 

[WV Cowboy]

This discussion could go on for hours. I respect your beliefs. I have many friends that share your view. I think where I differ with most conservative Christians is in the writings of Saul or Paul. Paul was instrumental for organizing the Christian code of conduct. I find it odd that a person who never met Jesus or lived during the time of Jesus, was suddenly blinded by his "image" in the desert and suddenly decides to tell people how to behave. Sorry, not buying that. Sounds a little too David Koresh like to me. But again, that's just my opinion.

This is just about what this whole thread boils down to, ... do you believe that the Bible is the inherent Word of God, ... or not.

Your answer forms your opinion.

 

[Mike 1967]

Technically, we are animals too, mammals to be more specific.

I was speaking in regards to levels of awareness but they do believe they have souls. Hinduism for example believes that people are reincartated and according to their karma can reborn as a human being or an animal etc.

Yep...we are animals. The only difference between man and animal is...to coin the term you introduced....our 'level of awareness"

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Levels of awareness is simply another way to package the point that I was making.

I knew a guy once who believed he was a tree. Reality is not predicated on belief.

If a tree falls in a forest it still makes noise wether or not I am there to hear it or not.

A human being can have the level of awareness of an "animal" if they suffer trauma to their central nervous system. So would you argue these people lack a soul because their awareness has dropped? That's basically the argument you are making.

 

[Mike 1967]

This is just about what this whole thread boils down to, ... do you believe that the Bible is the inherent Word of God, ... or not.

Your answer forms your opinion.

It actually goes beyond even that.

(1) Do you have any standard of right and wrong ?
(2) If you don't, then let me know where you live so I can take your car
(3) If you do..the what it yours based on and what makes your basis better than mine.