Is it just me that believes McFadden is starting RB?

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Nobody makes it in Oakland. That's the point. And Murray the ex-Raider would be an afterthought on the open market this year, whether you knew him or not.

Right now the Raiders are having trouble reaching the Salary Floor because nobody will take their money to go there.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...pend-but-cant-get-anybody-to-take-their-money

I don't blame McFadden in the least if he shut it down there, which was my point. That franchise is a complete and total joke, and has been long before he came into the league.

Allowing Murray to walk puts Dallas in your same joke category.
 

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So then you endorse a quitter in place of Murray?

your reaching and it's not for the star

1. The Running Back Situation:

There's been a lot of bad feelings about the Darren McFadden signing. Most of this negativity comes from the mistaken belief that McFadden has been signed as a replacement to DeMarco Murray. But that's not the case. The Cowboys have said they view McFadden as a backup running back who can provide some explosive plays out of the backfield. In other words, he's been signed to compete with Lance Dunbar.
 

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I don't think there will be a starting RB in Dallas this year. eve if we had re-signed Murray there wasn't a back on the roster that was going to carry the rock 380+ times this season. The coaching staff basically already said it at the end this past season. I honestly think that played a bit into the negotiations with Murray also. They knew damn well that working a RB to that degree isn't a recipe for long term success. Hence there was no need to invest that much money into one guy.

I think Randle may still be in the plans unless his legal troubles prevent him from being available. I'm not a fan of the guy as a person (too stupid for my liking) but there's no denying he got some game. I don't think you can rely on him as any type of feature back but his skills translate well to a complimentary back. I was watching the Seahawks game on rewind yesterday and I forgot how many significant play both he and Dunbar had made in that game (I believe Randle had the longest play from scrimmage with a 31 or 37 yard scamper. I can't remember which it was). The kid has some ball carrying skills. His TD run against Chicago was stunning. That lateral move at full speed to get back to the outside and score a TD when he was at a full sprint is ONE OF the most impressive moves I've seen any football player make ever

Again, I think the idea of a feature back in Dallas is pretty much dead this season unless they somehow land Peterson. I DO think they will address the position in the draft and that player may end up being the workhorse next season after acclimating to the NFL. Until then it's going to be a RBC approach and the "starter" is simply going to be the guy that takes the field on our first possession.

I think baring injury..

McFadden gets the rock the same way Murray got it.

Often and regularly.

If he goes down..

they bring in the next guy.

Are they going to draft a RB..?

Sure.

But with McFadden and the guys we have..

it now goes down in the draft until the mid rounds.

We have to do this year what we failed to do last year.

Draft defense with our top 3 draft picks and get starters.

At least with the first 2 picks.

They have to be starters and have the same impact for Marinelli that the 3 OL picks have brought.

And I think Mc Fadden shines.
 

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your reaching and it's not for the star

1. The Running Back Situation:

There's been a lot of bad feelings about the Darren McFadden signing. Most of this negativity comes from the mistaken belief that McFadden has been signed as a replacement to DeMarco Murray. But that's not the case. The Cowboys have said they view McFadden as a backup running back who can provide some explosive plays out of the backfield. In other words, he's been signed to compete with Lance Dunbar.

That's the first I've read that and I'm glad to hear it, even though I believed that would be the case. I definitely don't mind the signing from that standpoint, and it means we're absolutely are still looking for a starting back, which we should be doing.

Of course, is this coming from a reliable source or one of these writers who state their opinions as fact?
 

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His total yards from scrimmage in the running game is 4247 in seven years. Murray's is 4526 in four.

With his speed his longest from scrimmage was 70 yards. Murray, the slower of thew two, and an aspect you harp on was 91 yards.

He has averages 4.1 per carry while Murray has averaged 4.8.

He has posted 1 1000 yard season. The other six seasons he has not broken 708 yards.

He averages 11 games a year where he can suit up.

You have been one of the more vocal proponents of Murray leaving. I don't suspect even with that becoming reality you endorse McWastrel, but even so, you are here defending him against a real rushing threat using this fumble category and speed ti suggest he has an upside Murray does not.

There is absolutely nothing about Darren McFadden which suggests he could carry Murray's jock strap.

I'm certain that he will be decent if healthy. I'm also confident that Ryan Williams will be decent if healthy. I'm also confident that several RBs in the draft will be good.
 

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I'm certain that he will be decent if healthy. I'm also confident that Ryan Williams will be decent if healthy. I'm also confident that several RBs in the draft will be good.

Ryan Williams. The guy that sat on the PS and not even a nibble by other teams, Ryan Williams? Yes, he will be greatness.
 

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I'm certain that he will be decent if healthy. I'm also confident that Ryan Williams will be decent if healthy.

I share your hope, but not your confidence in these two.
 

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If Ryan williams stays healthy he will be the guy. Yeah I'm on that bandwagon.
 

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1.Is it just me that believes McFadden is starting RB?

I didn't read all the posts in this thread but I'm guessing the consenses answer to your question is...probably not. Oh there are a few who think so there always will be. But the majority likely don't think so.
 

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Ryan Williams. The guy that sat on the PS and not even a nibble by other teams, Ryan Williams? Yes, he will be greatness.

Wow, you should check up on your facts before you put your foot in your mouth. As many as 10 teams offered Ryan Williams contracts during last season (to their actual rosters) and he turned them all down to stay on our practice squad. That was heavily reported and talked about a few months ago. So I guess all those other teams saw more in him than you do.
 

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I think baring injury..

McFadden gets the rock the same way Murray got it.

Often and regularly.

If he goes down..

they bring in the next guy.

Are they going to draft a RB..?

Sure.

But with McFadden and the guys we have..

it now goes down in the draft until the mid rounds.

We have to do this year what we failed to do last year.

Draft defense with our top 3 draft picks and get starters.

At least with the first 2 picks.

They have to be starters and have the same impact for Marinelli that the 3 OL picks have brought.

And I think Mc Fadden shines.

My thoughts exactly.....
 

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I think DMC could be very successful if he can stay healthy. I realize that's like saying Lee could be great if he could stay healthy, but I honestly think he's gonna have a good year here. Who's to blame him if was never that motivated with Oakland?


DMC will start over any rookie. No way we are starting a 4-5 rounder at RB and expecting him to help keep Romo safe. I hope to God we don't go back to that rotation garbage. You seem how that has worked for us in the past. If we give DMC a chance, he will be successful. Only better option at this point would be AD...

Note that I said high round draft pick as in 1st or 2nd round. Like Melvin Gordon or Jay Ajayi and yes I think they start over McFadden...
 

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Wow, you should check up on your facts before you put your foot in your mouth. As many as 10 teams offered Ryan Williams contracts during last season (to their actual rosters) and he turned them all down to stay on our practice squad. That was heavily reported and talked about a few months ago. So I guess all those other teams saw more in him than you do.

D'oh!




Nice sig. Lol
 

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Wow, you should check up on your facts before you put your foot in your mouth. As many as 10 teams offered Ryan Williams contracts during last season (to their actual rosters) and he turned them all down to stay on our practice squad. That was heavily reported and talked about a few months ago. So I guess all those other teams saw more in him than you do.

This was discussed at length on the radio last week here in Dallas. THeir point is
Wow, you should check up on your facts before you put your foot in your mouth. As many as 10 teams offered Ryan Williams contracts during last season (to their actual rosters) and he turned them all down to stay on our practice squad. That was heavily reported and talked about a few months ago. So I guess all those other teams saw more in him than you do.

It was discussed here last week befoire Murray left on 105.3 and they seemed to have thought this guy was nothing if he could not get off the practice squad here with a guy who was arrested and embarrassed the team.

Until I see the guy actually do something in a game that counts, all the re4ports of his ability and the teams that want him means nothing. I cannot help but laugh at the guy in the background who is a stud but the team won't activate him. How many times have the fans here screamed about playing the young guys because we have to see what they have, onloy to find out they were sitting because they don't have squadoush.

Potential may be the worst thing you can label a guy who cannot get on the field.
 

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If Ryan williams stays healthy he will be the guy. Yeah I'm on that bandwagon.

DeMarco who?

why is everybody forgetting that Murray was pedestrian until 3 #1 picks were spent on the OL.

Last time I looked..the Eagles had none.

Murray played well but without a doubt it was the team around him that allowed that.

Cowboys made the right decision here.

If we win..everybody forgets about Murray.

If we lose..it will be because the team isn't good enough.

Not becuz Murray left.
 

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DeMarco who?

why is everybody forgetting that Murray was pedestrian until 3 #1 picks were spent on the OL.

Last time I looked..the Eagles had none.

Murray played well but without a doubt it was the team around him that allowed that.

Cowboys made the right decision here.

If we win..everybody forgets about Murray.

If we lose..it will be because the team isn't good enough.

Not becuz Murray left.

To be fair, Eagles have one #1 pick in Johnson, even though he doesn't look to be living up to that draft status yet. They still have Peters who is pretty good. They are not the Cowboys OL, but they aren't the Raiders either. DeMarco won't get 1800 yards, but I don't think the Eagles signed him to get that. Glad we didn't pay that contract.
 
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