Is it just me that believes McFadden is starting RB?

[KJJ]

I think he will Rush for a solid 1,100 yards this year if we don't get AP.

If McFadden can stay "heathy" and none of the other backs emerge it's possible but I'm not sure he'll get enough carries to do that. The Cowboys want to keep him healthy and at this stage in his career he's better suited as part of a rotation. McFadden has long thin legs not meant to carry a big workload.

 

[speedkilz88]

One thing that makes me thing it was the Raiders:

Pollack coached him in Oakland and I don't see how this went through, without Pollack's input. And McFaddaen did not put up good numbers when Pollack was hired. Maybe even Frank thinks the Oakland situation sucked.

He still had three 100 yd games with Pollack.

 

[jterrell]

I think McFadden can start for us this year.
He is very sound if nothing else.
Garrett likes vet backs because so much is about protection and knowing plays.

But his role will depend upon performance which is really a great thing.
If we go get a 2nd or 3rd round RB not sure they start week 1 but my guess is they get carries and performance dictates.

For me I don't need 1 guy rushing for 1800 yards.
I need the "team" matching last year's total with hopefully a couple less fumbles.
An occasional monster play to scare teams off playing to tight to the line of scrimmage would be nice as well.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Playing for the Raiders had nothing to do with his injuries. I can see McFadden performing pretty well behind the Cowboys OL but I feel certain the team didn't sign him to be the starter. Is it possible he could start? Yeah, it's possible with Murray gone and nothing solid behind him but he certainly isn't going to sniff 300 carries even if he did stay healthy. He's never carried the ball more than 223 times and that was 5 years ago. He hasn't carried the ball more than 155 times the past 2 seasons so expect him to be part of a 2-3 back rotation until hopefully the rookie RB the Cowboys draft in April emerges and is ready to carry the load. The Cowboys want to keep McFadden healthy so even if he does start he'll be in and out of the lineup as part of a rotation/committee.

I am ok with all your post EXCEPT... You don't know what played a part in his injuries? Bad to no blocking. Lead blocking, whiffs, etc.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

20 year anniversary
McFadden # 20


Hah..... Hah..........right ... Right. Lol

 

[CATCH17]

In not signing Murray to a monster contract, the Dallas brain trust may have been following the words of legendary NFL general manager Jim Finks, who once said that running backs are only as good as the blocking they get.

Great quote in a post Risen Star just posted.

 

[Corso]

Just wait and see,that the only thing we can do.
Let's not start putting winner and loser labels after the first week of free agency.
Several years back Washington was declared the big winner after they inked Haynesworth to big $$$.
How did that work?
How about Greg Jennings as a Viking?...or Mike Wallace as a Dolphin?
Those were positions of need for those teams,they threw money at it and look how it turned out.
Settle down,ladies and gents...let's wait see how things play out.
Draft day is coming too.Needs will be addressed too.

For some strange reason I read your last line as "Nerds will be addressed too" and I was wondering why nerds needed to be addressed before rereading.

 

[jterrell]

I am ok with all your post EXCEPT... You don't know what played a part in his injuries? Bad to no blocking. Lead blocking, whiffs, etc.

What makes that argument really weak is this:
Murray
164 carries
161 carries
217 carries

392 carries.

So McFadden has carried it more prior to Murray's break out year than he did.

 

[KJJ]

I am ok with all your post EXCEPT... You don't know what played a part in his injuries? Bad to no blocking. Lead blocking, whiffs, etc.

What played a part in his injuries is being tackled all the time which is what every RB is subjected to regardless of the blocking. Murray received great blocking in 2014 and still suffered a broken finger because RB's are hit and tackled on every carry unless they run out of bounds or a hole opens up allowing them to go untouched to the end zone. You can have the greatest OL ever assembled and have a whiff and some bad blocking occasionally.

Murray has been stopped in the backfield many times due to bad blocking, a whiff or his own doing. There's a reason most RB's are on the way down by 30 they get tackled repeatedly every week regardless of their blocking. RB's deal with contact on every play and some are more durable than others. In college McFadden was rotating with Felix Jones but when he came to the Raiders he was drafted #4 overall to carry the load and that's something he never did in college.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What makes that argument really weak is this:
Murray
164 carries
161 carries
217 carries

392 carries.

So McFadden has carried it more prior to Murray's break out year than he did.

Sorry but weak is that you factor no variables whatsoever.

It's NOT just stats.... "Come on, man!" ..... You know that.

Be nice. Lol

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What played a part in his injuries is being tackled all the time which is what every RB is subjected to regardless of the blocking. Murray received great blocking in 2014 and still suffered a broken finger because RB's are hit and tackled on every carry unless they run out of bounds or a hole opens up allowing them to go untouched to the end zone. You can have the greatest OL ever assembled and have a whiff and some bad blocking occasionally.

Murray has been stopped in the backfield many times due to bad blocking, a whiff or his own doing. There's a reason most RB's are on the way down by 30 they get tackled repeatedly every week regardless of their blocking. RB's deal with contact on every play and some are more durable than others. In college McFadden was rotating with Felix Jones but when he came to the Raiders he was drafted #4 overall to carry the load and that's something he never did in college.

Ohhhhh.... You gave seen every one of his runs. Ok. Got it.


You, me and jolly old Saint Nick don't know how he will do here.

 

[speedkilz88]

What played a part in his injuries is being tackled all the time which is what every RB is subjected to regardless of the blocking. Murray received great blocking in 2014 and still suffered a broken finger because RB's are hit and tackled on every carry unless they run out of bounds or a hole opens up allowing them to go untouched to the end zone. You can have the greatest OL ever assembled and have a whiff and some bad blocking occasionally.

Murray has been stopped in the backfield many times due to bad blocking, a whiff or his own doing. There's a reason most RB's are on the way down by 30 they get tackled repeatedly every week regardless of their blocking. RB's deal with contact on every play and some are more durable than others. In college McFadden was rotating with Felix Jones but when he came to the Raiders he was drafted #4 overall to carry the load and that's something he never did in college.

Poor OL that gets the rb hit behind the line scrimmage by DL and LBs running downhill. Great blocking gets the rb hit by LBs and DBs in the open field chasing.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Poor OL that gets the rb hit behind the line scrimmage by DL and LBs running downhill. Great blocking gets the rb hit by LBs and DBs in the open field chasing.

I didn't want to "like" this post because it's better than that!

Awesome!

 

[KJJ]

Ohhhhh.... You gave seen every one of his runs. Ok. Got it.


You, me and jolly old Saint Nick don't know how he will do here.

The Raiders saw everyone of his runs and dumped him. No one saw more of him than they did and they obviously saw enough to know he's not the answer. If Oakland thought it was all their OL's fault for McFadden's injuries and lack of production they wouldn't have been one of the teams that offered Murray more money than Philly. Why would Oakland have been trying to sign Murray if they thought McFadden wasn't part of the problem? When he was a free agent at the end of the 2013 season he received no interest forcing him to stay with the Raiders on a one year deal. If any team out there thought much of him he wouldn't have immediately jumped at the low offer the Cowboys made.

The contract he signed with the Cowboys indicates they aren't banking on him. The draft will be another indication they aren't banking on him. I'm not saying McFadden is a stiff but he's averaged under 4 yards a carry the past 3 years while Latavius Murray averaged 5.2 a carry this past season behind the same OL McFadden averaged 3.4 behind. It's pretty clear by the distribution of carries the final month of the season and who's still on the Raiders roster who they thought was the better back. Oakland is usually a team players sign with to try and resurrect their careers so it's never a good sign when they give up on a player. It's not like McFadden was never given a good opportunity in Oakland he was there 7 years.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The Raiders saw everyone of his runs and dumped him. No one saw more of him than they did and they obviously saw enough to know he's not the answer. If Oakland thought it was all their OL's fault for McFadden's injuries and lack of production they wouldn't have been one of the teams that offered Murray more money than Philly. Why would Oakland have been trying to sign Murray if they thought McFadden wasn't part of the problem? When he was a free agent at the end of the 2013 season he received no interest forcing him to stay with the Raiders on a one year deal. If any team out there thought much of him he wouldn't have immediately jumped at the low offer the Cowboys made.

The contract he signed with the Cowboys indicates they aren't banking on him. The draft will be another indication they aren't banking on him. I'm not saying McFadden is a stiff but he's averaged under 4 yards a carry the past 3 years while Latavius Murray averaged 5.2 a carry this past season behind the same OL McFadden averaged 3.4 behind. It's pretty clear by the distribution of carries the final month of the season and who's still on the Raiders roster who they thought was the better back. Oakland is usually a team players sign with to try and resurrect their careers so it's never a good sign when they give up on a player. It's not like McFadden was never given a good opportunity in Oakland he was there 7 years.

Very silly.
Using the raiders to make your point.

DMF is gonna do very well here.

 

[Anthonyscottua7]

I like the signing also. With this O line and the holes they create he won't get hit until the secondary. Hopefully he still has some power and speed along with staying healthy!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I like the signing also. With this O line and the holes they create he won't get hit until the secondary. Hopefully he still has some power and speed along with staying healthy!

I like his chances better than 70% of the time vs secondaries..

 

[dfense]

1.Is it just me that believes McFadden is starting RB?

2. How did he really turn out? Do we honestly know?

3. He is still young enough to be feature rb for us so why not?


I am posting this thread because I would like to know what people really think about him as a player?

Real deal answers. Backed up with real info and serious analysis?

Thanks

They are filling an open spot to cover their butt. They will draft a guy.

 

[Corso]

Poor OL that gets the rb hit behind the line scrimmage by DL and LBs running downhill. Great blocking gets the rb hit by LBs and DBs in the open field chasing.

 

[KJJ]

Very silly.
Using the raiders to make your point.

DMF is gonna do very well here.

What other NFL team can you use to make a point with him? He was in Oakland for 7 years it's not like he wasn't given a chance. I'm not saying he won't do well with the Cowboys but he wasn't signed to replace Murray. You wanted real deal answers and I'm providing them.