Is it time to declare Claiborne a bust?

Kevinicus

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Here's someone else putting words in my mouth. I never said cut him after two years. I said he's a bust SO FAR. I'd give him another year and if his performance doesn't improve, try to get something for him even if it's a 7th rd pick.

He HAS improved...if you pay attention. And the defense is MUCH better with him in there. Only a fool would give him up for a 7th.
 

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This is the type of attitude that has doomed the Cowboys. Jerry keeps holding out on bust players in the hope they get better. Sometimes they do, but most of the time they don't.

Your estimation of Claiborne's performance to-date is too negative, and it's coloring your results. If you've already decided he's a bust, then of course you don't play him, but the point is, he's not a bust, and the team still likes some of what it's seen in him, so they're going to keep giving him snaps as long as that's the case.
 

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He HAS improved...if you pay attention. And the defense is MUCH better with him in there. Only a fool would give him up for a 7th.

He has declined since his rookie season to the point that he has lost his starting job. If the defense is much better with him, why is he riding the pine?
 

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He has declined since his rookie season to the point that he has lost his starting job. If the defense is much better with him, why is he riding the pine?

He wasn't on the pine much at all. He is basically starter 2b (Scandrick was 2a). Three corners are on the field a lot. And, honestly, I don't give the coaching staff much credit for making smart decisions about who plays, do you? And how was 5 or 6 consecutive solid to good performances declining again?
 

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Your estimation of Claiborne's performance to-date is too negative, and it's coloring your results. If you've already decided he's a bust, then of course you don't play him, but the point is, he's not a bust, and the team still likes some of what it's seen in him, so they're going to keep giving him snaps as long as that's the case.

Don't you think the team is praying that he pans out due to him filling a need and the investment made in him? He lost his job , but they are going to give him every chance and cross their fingers . I had much more hope that he would live up to expectations during his rookie season. He seems to be soft and unmotivated in his second year. I honestly hope he can change directions for the team's sake, but I wouldn't bet on him if I got great odds. He seems to be much like B. Carter, young, talented, an injury history, unmotivated and soft. That is a great deal of talent in those two players that is not producing for some unknown reason. Both players have the tools to improve the defense a great deal at their positions.
 

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Don't you think the team is praying that he pans out due to him filling a need and the investment made in him? He lost his job , but they are going to give him every chance and cross their fingers . I had much more hope that he would live up to expectations during his rookie season. He seems to be soft and unmotivated in his second year. I honestly hope he can change directions for the team's sake, but I wouldn't bet on him if I got great odds. He seems to be much like B. Carter, young, talented, an injury history, unmotivated and soft. That is a great deal of talent in those two players that is not producing for some unknown reason. Both players have the tools to improve the defense a great deal at their positions.

I don't know if he's soft or not. I think he's too weak. I think he's had some soft tissue injuries that raise question marks about him. I don't think he's got Carter's issues with putting out effort if he gets frustrated on the field. Claiborne looks like he competes when he's on the field, at least.

He lost his job to Scandrick because Scandrick was playing really well and Mo was missing a lot of time. I'm sure the coaches weren't happy with him missing as much time as he did last season, and that was part of it. But he was still getting the nickel snaps. And the coverage was very different when he was out and we didn't have our top three CBs in the game. They didn't trust Webb to carry his guy in man last season, and we ended up playing zone too much, with no pressure up front. That sucked.

I'm sure the team is praying Mo is not a bust. It'd be a huge setback to whiff on a guy you traded up into the top 10 for. We need him to play better, and to stay on the field. At the same time, Dez and Scandrick have no shortage of really good things to say about the guy. I think he can play, he's just done it in fits and starts so far. This coming season is huge for him.
 

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He wasn't on the pine much at all. He is basically starter 2b (Scandrick was 2a). Three corners are on the field a lot. And, honestly, I don't give the coaching staff much credit for making smart decisions about who plays, do you? And how was 5 or 6 consecutive solid to good performances declining again?

Agenda, that's how.
 

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Your estimation of Claiborne's performance to-date is too negative, and it's coloring your results. If you've already decided he's a bust, then of course you don't play him, but the point is, he's not a bust, and the team still likes some of what it's seen in him, so they're going to keep giving him snaps as long as that's the case.

They have to. He's a 1st round pick whom they gave up a 2nd for. That makes it even more painful. After this year, they'll be able to get rid of him if he doesn't improve.
 

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He HAS improved...if you pay attention. And the defense is MUCH better with him in there. Only a fool would give him up for a 7th.

Everyone's been paying attention. Even the coaches. That's why they benched him.
 
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