Is Matt Jones getting cut on June 1st?

[Sandyf]

Matt Jones may have a lot of upside but he really hasn't shown it as of yet and doubt Jerry would give anything to get him.

Remember the HC at Jacksonville is Del Rio who Jerry has a great relationship with and I would bet that if anything comes of Jones to Dallas it would be as a FA and try out situation. Right now, Jones couldn't beat out our top three guys and based on what the coaches have said about Stanback and some of the others he might not be able to beat them out either.

Jones is tall, good speed, catches fairly well but poor route runner and gives up on a play for to often. Let Oakland have him.

 

[joseephuss]

yea Leonard Davis stunk till he got on a winning team too.Jones can play he just wasnt given the chance cause from what i read he hates playing there.

Jacksonville has been a winning team.

 

[joseephuss]

Stash these folks will be crying if he goes somewhere else with a good qb and plays well which chances he will.If T.O. gets hurt we are finished completely.

Is this the logic?

Matt Jones comes to Dallas. TO gets hurt. Dallas will be fine?

 

[Stash]

Matt Jones may have a lot of upside but he really hasn't shown it as of yet and doubt Jerry would give anything to get him.

Remember the HC at Jacksonville is Del Rio who Jerry has a great relationship with and I would bet that if anything comes of Jones to Dallas it would be as a FA and try out situation. Right now, Jones couldn't beat out our top three guys and based on what the coaches have said about Stanback and some of the others he might not be able to beat them out either.

Jones is tall, good speed, catches fairly well but poor route runner and gives up on a play for to often. Let Oakland have him.

Who would our top three be?

 

[jobberone]

Who would our top three be?

Right now it's TO, TG, and Crayton. I suspect that is going to change.

 

[Velvet Jones]

I'll explain.

The Jaguars reached for a player making a total position change because he had first round size and speed. Because of the position change, he was rated as a 3rd or 4th round prospect as it would take him time to develop.

That's their fault.

The guy still has those measurables.

But Dallas would be giving up a late round pick to get him.

How does that seperate him from Stanback? Sounds like the same deal except Stanback was drafted where he was suppossed to be. But it is safer, to you, to take a chance on a receiver that has proved he can't be an answer rather than one that hasn't had a chance to prove anything?

In answer to your previous questions, I would place Owens, an active Glenn and a Crayton well above Jones. I would place the risk on Stanbach (and upside) above Crayton. I can see where Jones ratea as high as a Hurd or a Austin as in none of them will probably ever be kept long term on a team but at least they don't cost us an additional draft pick to learn that. And I would still rather see what even a player like Amendola has to offer over what I already have seen Jones do.

 

[DFWJC]

I hear Matt Jones is actually looking pretty good over there this offseason.

Also, I've read that D'Juan Woods has made huge strides as a FA--with much better route running and physicality. He is challenging for a roster spot...or as much as you can this early.

Their depth chart looks like this right now:

WR1 = J Porter, M Jones, M Walker, D Woods
WR2 = R Williams, D Northcut, T Williamson, J Broussard

Uh, I think I'll take our group. Their's looks better than last year, but Garrard could still use a legit #1 receiver.

 

[Velvet Jones]

He's only trying to make a complete position change....

How many years now to make this position change?

To me, and I don't mean to be rude, it sounds like a lot of apologies for him. It just catches me a little off guard because it is the same thing you get on the Roy Williams band wagon people for... making apologies for a person that hasn't shown anything recently. He shouldn't have gone in the first round, he is making a position change, he is in the doghouse, etc.. But what has he done in his career to show that he is worth even a low draft pick. Just because he is 6'6" and ran a 4.4?

I am not certain how the thread turned into Crayton OR Jones but Crayton has shown me more in a season than Jones ever has even if his last game wasn't the best ending mark. But since Jones had a good game to end the season, he should be put higher?

 

[Stash]

Right now it's TO, TG, and Crayton. I suspect that is going to change.

I'm not counting on anything from Terry Glenn.

That would be a mistake.

 

[Stash]

How does that seperate him from Stanback? Sounds like the same deal except Stanback was drafted where he was suppossed to be. But it is safer, to you, to take a chance on a receiver that has proved he can't be an answer rather than one that hasn't had a chance to prove anything?

I guess I would say that I don't agree that Jones has 'proven' that he can't be an answer. And Stanback hasn't proven anything one way or another. People have high hopes, but he's a complete unknown at this point.

In answer to your previous questions, I would place Owens, an active Glenn and a Crayton well above Jones. I would place the risk on Stanbach (and upside) above Crayton. I can see where Jones ratea as high as a Hurd or a Austin as in none of them will probably ever be kept long term on a team but at least they don't cost us an additional draft pick to learn that. And I would still rather see what even a player like Amendola has to offer over what I already have seen Jones do.

I don't think a "healthy Glenn" exists anymore.

And Jones would probably cost a 6th or 7th round pick at this point as he's fallen out of favor in Jacksonville.

Strikes me as funny that people have no problem with Dallas drafting Walden - a guy nobody ever heard of - in the 6th round, but spending that same round pick on Matt Jones is some type of crime? Seems a bit odd to me.

The Cowboys will probably get better than that in compensatory picks, not to mention the additional picks they've already got.

Is a 6th round pick too much to spend in the hopes of strengthening a position with plenty of questions?

I don't think that it is.

 

[Stash]

How many years now to make this position change?

I think that depends on many circumstances - including coaching. Part of it could very well be Jones' fault. He's limited at this point, but he's shown he can be functional at the NFL level. And, at 25 years old, I think there's still good potential upside.

To me, and I don't mean to be rude, it sounds like a lot of apologies for him. It just catches me a little off guard because it is the same thing you get on the Roy Williams band wagon people for... making apologies for a person that hasn't shown anything recently. He shouldn't have gone in the first round, he is making a position change, he is in the doghouse, etc.. But what has he done in his career to show that he is worth even a low draft pick. Just because he is 6'6" and ran a 4.4?

No offense taken. I can see how people have a negative opinion on him.

Roy Williams costs about $4-$5 million per year. Jones costs about $900,000.00 - and a 6-7th round draft pick.

I am not certain how the the thread turned into Crayton OR Jones but Crayton has shown me more in a season than Jones ever has even if his last game wasn't the best ending mark. But since Jones had a good game to end the season, he should be put higher?

One poster took it that way. A direction never mentioned or intended.

For all of the bashing Jones gets, he played well last season when he got his chance.

Crayton got his and screwed the pooch.

But I'm not suggesting Crayton be dumped for Jones.

 

[Ashwynn]

Who cares. Its not like hes gunna come here and do anything. Hopefully we wont even see a single "Lets sign Mutt Jones"' thread. (misspelling on purpose).

 

[Stash]

Who cares. Its not like hes gunna come here and do anything. Hopefully we wont even see a single "Lets sign Mutt Jones"' thread. (misspelling on purpose).

I care.

I don't want to see another year wasted on hoping Glenn can do anything.

Or see a Super Bowl caliber team stuck with Crayton and ??? if TO gets hurt again.

 

[Ashwynn]

I care.

I don't want to see another year wasted on hoping Glenn can do anything.

Or see a Super Bowl caliber team stuck with Crayton and ??? if TO gets hurt again.

Matt Jones aint the answer.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yuck. I'd rather they pulled some kid off the streets to play on this team than give a spot to Jones. He's terrible.

 

[Stash]

Matt Jones aint the answer.

I'd be open to another suggestion.

I don't see a lot of reasonable alternatives at the moment.

Just more pie-in-the-sky trades for Roy Williams, Boldin, or Chad Johnson.

 

[jobberone]

I care.

I don't want to see another year wasted on hoping Glenn can do anything.

Or see a Super Bowl caliber team stuck with Crayton and ??? if TO gets hurt again.

It appears many here don't see Matt as a savior assuming Crayton doesn't perform as well as we would like. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him here. On the cheap and no picks though.

 

[Stash]

Yuck. I'd rather they pulled some kid off the streets to play on this team than give a spot to Jones. He's terrible.

If you have a better alternative, I'd love to hear it.

Maybe we could trade for DeAngelo Hall again and have him play receiver for us?

 

[Stash]

It appears many here don't see Matt as a savior assuming Crayton doesn't perform as well as we would like. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him here. On the cheap and no picks though.

Again, what does a 6th or 7th round pick mean for this team with what they have going into next year's draft?

 

[Velvet Jones]

I guess where I come from is, to me, Jones is what he is. I don't see him turning it up a notch. So, to me again, we already have people deserving of a fourth receiver spot on the team. If you are saying he will be a Owens (i obviously don't think you are saying that but just an example) or a Glenn or even a Crayton, I will disagree. If you are saying he is a Stanback, I can sit the fence on that. An unknown because he was used wrong in Jacksonville. It sounds like an apology but it could be a truth. So I could see myself as being talked into that he could go above the depth chart over a Hurd or a Austin... maybe

For all of the bashing Jones gets, he played well last season when he got his chance.

Crayton got his and screwed the pooch.

So Crayton had a bad year last year? I actually thought that he had a fairly good year. Crayton is what he is as well... a talented third receiver. A very consitant pass catcher who rarely drops balls, even in big games. He had a bad game at a very bad time. Not an excuse but it doesn't take his accomplishments away. I think if the choice is between the two on who deserves a chance to prove their critics wrong, Crayton has earned his right with blood for this team. Jones is just 6'6" and runs a 4.4.