Is Merriman on way out in San Diego this year or next? Would Wade look at him?

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silverbear;2927641 said:
Yes, I'm completely serious... and don't come to me for help raising your bail if you fight with that drunk friend (especially a female drunk friend), and you wind up in jail for assault...

I'll wheedle and cajole my drunk friend, maybe even yell at him or her, but I'll draw the line at risking going to jail for them... .

No police department in this country would put you in jail for preventing your friend getting behind the wheels of a car while drunk. ( short of you killing him/her ).

And it's not about saving them, only, although that's a good enough reason by itself. It's about saving innocent lives that drunk can kill.

How would you feel if you let a friend drive while drunk, because you didn't want to go jail, and that friend ends up killing your brother ? sister ? son ? daughter ?
 

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cowboyjoe;2926477 said:
Personally I dont think that the chargers will let merriman go, but just for sake of argument, say they do; should the cowboys look at him, just for this year to help our pass rush. That way merriman could spell time with spencer and give a big pass rush, your thoughts?

I know we need to sign ware this year too or next year for sure, before total uncapped year, but if merriman becomes available this year, just for this year in free agency, should the cowboys take a look? Yeah I know he is a knucklehead sometimes, but he could provide that extra rush with ware and ratliff because we really dont know if spencer can do that this year.


Shawne Merriman-LB- Chargers Sep. 7 - 11:56 am et


According to beat writer Kevin Acee, this will be Shawne Merriman's last season with the Chargers.

Acee said this week's issue with Tila Tequila has no bearing on his status with the team. Merriman's contract is up at the end of the season and the Chargers weren't going to bring him back anyway. But Acee then speculates that Merriman could end up parting ways with the Chargers before this season is over, in part because general manager A.J. Smith is sick of dealing with Merriman's off-field issues.Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

I'd like to see how Spencer plays this year 1st before seriously thinking about Merriman, but I'm open to the possibility.
 

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of course this is possible.

if wade is here... if we feel we need another pass rusher... if merriman doesn't want to break the bank or we have a cap free year.

wade would likely vote in favor of merriman. he loves pass rushers and merriman is a heck of a pass rusher.

jerry likes marquee guys and this guy is marquee.

but is this likely? no. not after making ware by then the highest paid OLB/DE in football.
 

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Big Dakota;2927205 said:
I don't like things about the guy, and i don't think we need him or can afford him, but dude, you don't know anything about football if you think he hasn't played well. Dude was hurt all of 2008 and had no stats, but his first 3 years were great. You need to be informed before making yourself look bad.

First 3 years

Ware Tkls 166 Sacks 33.2 Ints 1 Forced F 12
Merriman Tkls 146 Sacks 39.5 Ints 1 Forced F 8

Parcells said Ware would start off slower, but end up better

And that Merriman is a "jerk"
 

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Everlastingxxx;2927562 said:
She is claiming that was his attempt...hence why she is making the charges. Unless choking means - lightly placing your hands around someones neck. So she doesn’t have a case unless there is some type of physcial evidence.

Per the complaint, she is alleging battery and false imprisonment. In CA, battery can be mere unwanted touching. So yes, if all Merrirman was touch her neck - an assumption only based upon the complaint and Merriman's statement he did not harm her - he committed battery.

I honestly question whether you have done any of this. If someone wants to get out of your house, there is no way you can keep them there without some type of confrontation occurring.

Why does it sound like you are equating confrontation with physical force? Or perhaps my friends are much more amenable to vocal confrontation that the people you deal with. Again, I am not a bouncer, and never had to physically restrain someone. I am pretty good at talking the keys out of someone, especially if they don't have access to them. I also had a roommate who, on one occasion, could disable a engine.

As I stated before, my only "hmmmm" moment is that Merriman is insisting that he did not harm her. That's a very fine distinction that most would not make. My only point, which is escaping you, is that in CA, harm is not required. Only intent to make contact.
 

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M'Kevon;2928386 said:
Per the complaint, she is alleging battery and false imprisonment. In CA, battery can be mere unwanted touching. So yes, if all Merrirman was touch her neck - an assumption only based upon the complaint and Merriman's statement he did not harm her - he committed battery.

Well, i don’t know CA laws. If so, then California needs to build more prisons.

M'Kevon;2928386 said:
Why does it sound like you are equating confrontation with physical force? Or perhaps my friends are much more amenable to vocal confrontation that the people you deal with. Again, I am not a bouncer, and never had to physically restrain someone. I am pretty good at talking the keys out of someone, especially if they don't have access to them. I also had a roommate who, on one occasion, could disable a engine.

Or maybe your example is not matching the situation. Having drunken sleep-overs is not the same as having a pissed off drunken rich girl wanting to leave at any cost.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2928399 said:
Well, i don’t know CA laws. If so, then California needs to build more prisons.

Absolutely.

Or maybe your example is not matching the situation. Having drunken sleep-overs is not the same as having a pissed off drunken rich girl wanting to leave at any cost.

Wait - didn't you start this by jumping on me for not having knowledge of the situation? So now you know she was drunk and wanting to leave at any cost? I'm sure Merrirman will appreciate your expert witness testimony.
 

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M'Kevon;2928472 said:
Wait - didn't you start this by jumping on me for not having knowledge of the situation? So now you know she was drunk and wanting to leave at any cost? I'm sure Merrirman will appreciate your expert witness testimony.

He doesn’t need my witness, she admits to drinking “Deputies said when they arrived at Merriman's house that Nguyen acknowledged she had been drinking and appeared intoxicated, Caldwell said.” http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/sep/06/bn06merriman-arrested/?chargers

Also, how badly do you want to leave a house if you are calling the police?
 

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BraveHeartFan;2927876 said:
2005 (rookie year) - 10 sacks
2006 (Steroid year) - 17 sacks
2007 (after roid year) - 12.5 sacks
2008 (injury to knee) - 0 sacks


Yeah he really looked like a shell of his self after the roid use. Only had 12.5 sacks. God that's awful.

Come on. I can understand why people don't want him, I don't have a problem with that opinion, but a shell? The only question I have on him right now, as far as being able to play on the field, is if his knee is healed. The dude can obviously play if that knee is healthy.

He did look like a shell of his former self after the suspension. In 2007 he had 11 games (counting the 3 postseason games) where he had no sacks. He had only 7 TFL's. Only 2 forced fumbles. He wasnt anywhere near as explosive. He was a non factor in coverage. Then he looked bad in the one game he tried to play last yr.

He's a thug, alot of his success has to be attributed to the roids and he has major knee issues. Ware is the FAR better player and must get paid what he deserves before they consider any type of move for a guy like Merriman. And I honesty wont be all that surprised if THIS yr Spencer ends up being as productive, if not more productive than Merriman. Spencer is every bit as talented as Shaun Phillips or Steve Foley were, and those guys had big yrs playing for Phillips. Then you have to factor in the fact he has idiots for agents.

Its just a poor idea, especially before we even see what Spencer does as a fulltime player.
 

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i love how the people here say that he was a shell of his former self after the roids and/or he hasn't proven that he can do it w/out roids then the next comment from these same people states that he had roid rage on tila....wouldnt that mean he is still on roids? listen i really dont care if he does them or not, he most likely has the knee problems because of them as they tend to dry out joints, everybody cites him for roid use but bottom line he is just the most high profile guy caught lately. i'd bet my left nut that at least 80% of players from high school to present have used and more than 60% still do its just the way it is.

i would not mind him here if for no other reason than you know what he can do. and if you think spencer is fine, good, then we wont miss shawnes production if he is suspended. now i know i like proven commodities and thinking that way doesnt allow young players their shot but thats the way i think, i would gamble on a player turn around off the feild than one on the feild.

now i want ware paid, that is first but if you can get shawne here reasonibly then i am all for it.

just my .02
 

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Randy White;2928003 said:
No police department in this country would put you in jail for preventing your friend getting behind the wheels of a car while drunk. ( short of you killing him/her ).

Tell that to Merriman (if his story is true)... if you commit assault to keep your friend from driving drunk, you go to jail...

How would you feel if you let a friend drive while drunk, because you didn't want to go jail, and that friend ends up killing your brother ? sister ? son ? daughter ?

I'd hate the SOB for being a drunken fool... I would not, however, blame myself... what I'm saying is I'll go so far to stop a drunk from driving, but there's a line I won't cross over, that line being breaking the law by getting into a physical altercation... at that point, the drunk friend assumes complete responsibility for his or her actions...
 
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