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Best cowboys rookie of all time is Bob Lilly .
Best cowboys rookie of all time is Bob Lilly .
Nah. You changed the convo. I just played your game.
Henry wasn’t very good early in his career so no guarantees.
Henry averaged 4.5 ypc his rookie season playing part time in an offense set up for Murray.. Line him up behind that Dallas line of 2016 and I'm comfortable that he gives me 1500 yards.. and Dak puts up pretty much the same numbers.. As for guarantees.. you have some guarantee that Dak would have failed on another team? Had Dak gone to a coach willing to go RPO heavy and let him do his thing with his legs while he learned the nuances of NFL passing I think he would have been fine.. He was a much better passer than anyone anticipated and that along with his leadership was going to translate no matter where he went. Was he winning 13 games on a bad team? Probably not.. but your trying to act as if he'd be out of the league or something is ridiculous. And before you trot out that tired old "But look how bad he played when Zeke was out in 2017" .. I will offer this.. Those three losses that year were the last three losses Dak has ever suffered without Zeke.. He has won the last 5 games when Zeke was out. Maybe give the guy credit for figuring it out.
Zeke too right?Zack Martin was an All Pro as a rookie.
His 1977 rookie year was great. 12 TDs in 14 games and didn’t start until almost half way through the season.Tony Dorsett?
Maybe......
Not a huge stretch at all. Just common sense which you lack.
He’s a seasoned vet now in one of the best situations in football and he still sucks when we don’t run the ball well.
Where he was drafted is irrelevant.I guess a 4th round rookie QB that significantly contributed to a team getting the #1 seed isn’t worthy of discussion?
You heard it here everybody! You’re a loon for saying Dak’s rookie year was great.
ES22 did NOT have a good rookie season..hes off Bobs in..Any list that does not include Bob Hayes amazing rookie season is immediately null and void.
He did have a good year, but so far, Parsons hasn't had a single game that made anyone question his ability.Dak had a phenomenal year in 2016.
13-3, 68% completion, 23 TD and only 4 Int.
Everson Walls, Zeke, and Parsons take your pick.This is really for the long time fans. I can only speak about mid 80's on.
Did we just witness the greatest rookie season in the history of the Dallas Cowboys? I can't think of one better over the last 40 years.
This needs to be adjusted for era obviously. Don't give me raw stats as the reason. It's a much different game today than it was then. I'm asking who was the best in their time not who put up the best overall numbers.
I need people who were around for the 60s and 70s to speak on this.
Is Micah the rookie King?
If so, double bicep flex in your face.
I started watching in 1976. I was 6 years old. The Cowboys were the first team I watched. (being honest with myself) I don't remember who they were playing. I just remember telling my Dad that I really like this team (the Cowboys). I remember Tony D's rookie year clear as day like it was just yesterday.... I truly believe Micah Parson's impact on this team is the best thing that has happened since Tony D's rookie year. Someone mentioned Everson Walls. He is pretty well up there as far as I'm concerned as well..Biggest impact since Tony D's rookie year whose performance as a rookie that year was a big part of that 77 team's championship.
Close between those 2 imo. That's since my '74/75 fandom began.
Not old enough to speak for the '60-73 years.
jmo
Only one I can think of that was probably just as good the last 20 years was Zeke.
For real? Please forgive me for being lazy by not looking up his stats. I seen a few here mentioning him so I figured he did.
Henry averaged 4.5 ypc his rookie season playing part time in an offense set up for Murray.. Line him up behind that Dallas line of 2016 and I'm comfortable that he gives me 1500 yards.. and Dak puts up pretty much the same numbers.. As for guarantees.. you have some guarantee that Dak would have failed on another team? Had Dak gone to a coach willing to go RPO heavy and let him do his thing with his legs while he learned the nuances of NFL passing I think he would have been fine.. He was a much better passer than anyone anticipated and that along with his leadership was going to translate no matter where he went. Was he winning 13 games on a bad team? Probably not.. but your trying to act as if he'd be out of the league or something is ridiculous. And before you trot out that tired old "But look how bad he played when Zeke was out in 2017" .. I will offer this.. Those three losses that year were the last three losses Dak has ever suffered without Zeke.. He has won the last 5 games when Zeke was out. Maybe give the guy credit for figuring it out.
Over 1,000 yards too.His 1977 rookie year was great. 12 TDs in 14 games and didn’t start until almost half way through the season.
Yeah I can't remember if they still had CJ2K or it was just Dion Lewis at that point, but Henry wasn't getting a full load. It took a few years before they unleashed him. It will be interesting to see what he does in the playoffs. Ever look at his high-school box scores? It's comical.
You could include ZekeHow can you say Dak and not include Zeke?
Zeke rushed for 1,600 yards and 15 TDs and caught 32 passes for 400 yards and a TD.
He was first team all pro and won the rushing title.