Is Philly better at building teams than us?

[GMO415]

It appears so

 

[Mr_437]

This is like saying the guy who painted your house and DaVinci both did a good job.

If you think there's a big difference in the rosters cool, but Da Vinci is popular for being the lover of Cesar Borgia hence his skill may be overvalued...heck maybe a want a house painted instead a dude in drag.

 

[Sydla]

If you think there's a big difference in the rosters cool, but Da Vinci is popular for being the lover of Cesar Borgia hence his skill may be overvalued...heck maybe a want a house painted instead a dude in drag.

Yeah, there is a difference in rosters. Also a difference in coaching staffs, which is also in the purview of the GM.

And then, what's beautiful about this, is we have actual results to look at. Actual evidence. And when you look at that, Philly has been a far more successful franchise under Roseman than we have been with Jerry as the GM, post Jimmy.

So I am not sure how one can try to argue that we do, in fact, build teams as well, if not better, than the Eagles at this point.

 

[Bobhaze]

Switch the health of Tyron/Frederick and Kelce/Johnson. That's more relevant than anything "culture" that the Eagles do.

It all comes down to organizational focus- ours is not focused entirely on winning a championship.

Besides, every team in the NFL has a “what if so and so had not been hurt” story. Bottom line is the eagles have been better when it mattered most and we haven’t. No excuses.

 

[Bobhaze]

Going to a Super Bowl isn't a barometer of anything. The only measure that matters is winning it. Arbitrary lines in the sand to determine success are stupid. I never compared him to the Cowboys anyways.

They had to completely blow up the roster and start over. That's the definition of unsustainable.

They got there because they were the healthiest team. They weren't any better than the 49ers or Cowboys last year.

You're not smart enough to say who is/isn't embarrassing.

“Going to a SB isn’t a barometer of anything”….? Wow.

 

[lopey]

they always have a dominant two way dt. they had f cox for a decade. Now they have two younger d tackles with cox still rotating. we have good outside guys like ware and
Micah. Their defenses are consistently more physical and better against the run. we both build up the o lines and receiver corps. you can argue daks a better qb. they have two number one wr s and a top te. they made two superbowls in the last 5 years. we often rush the passer and cover well but struggle defending the run. Is that the key?

Yes they have football people running the team. We have Jurrah and Junior making decisions based on who they like not on skills.

 

[EJK24]

I would say it certainly appears they have built a better roster and the fact that they actually use free agency and trades to their advantage surely helps their cause. Their ability to trade players and picks and use free agency definitely helps where as we only want to pay our own.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

It all comes down to organizational focus- ours is not focused entirely on winning a championship.

This is nonsense. No owner cares about winning more than they care about making money.

 

[ArtClink]

Which team would you rather be?

The 2007 New England Patriots who went into the playoffs 16-0 and headed into the Super Bowl at 19-0 only to lose for the first time all season?

.. or ..

The 2007 New York Giants who went into the playoffs as a wildcard at 10-6 and won the Super Bowl against a 19-0 team?

Which team had the better personnel department? The 10-6 team or the 16-0 team?

You just wanna be the hot team no one wants to face in the post season.

 

[tomokawan]

How do you define impact? We had 2-3 backup DBs in the game at any given point and held the Dolphins to their lowest yardage output of the season. Sua Opeta played RG all game and Hurts was upright for most of it despite Miami’s talent on the Dline. They don’t have to blow up the stat page to matter.

Depth isn’t always concrete in quality, it’s relative. How many teams could have done that to Miami in that situation?

The Dolphins were without both starting corners and 3 offensive lineman. I guess you failed to mention that.

 

[DallasEast]

I get it but I think the OP is talking about a recent time frame under the reign of Jerry as GM. And there is no doubt that no matter how you slice it since our last SB win, Philly just does a better job at team building, hiring coaches, etc.

We are unfortunately bolted to Jerry and Stephen. There's no hope that some GM will come along and fix us. We are stuck with the reality that Jerry and then his son believe themselves to be football people that understand the game as well as anyone. There is little doubt in my mind Jerry would have more SBs in his trophy case if he understood that his football knowledge is limited and hired real GMs to run his team.

In all honesty, Cowboys fans should kidnap Stephen's oldest son and make him live with the Ozzie Newsome or Howie Roseman family and then he can return to run the team in 10-15 years.

lol. I would not put the words 'recent' and 'reign' in the same sentence with Jones. 'Extraordinarily extended' would be appropriate than 'recent' in my opinion.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Ehh that's basically what you are insinuating. That Jerry is no worse at his job than Roseman and that what separates them mostly is luck (your whole, flip Tyron/Frederick with Johnson/Kelce thing).

Roseman is a Top 3 GM in this league. He's much better at his job than Jerry (specifically, Jerry the GM). Philly is better at roster building/construction than we are. The results on the field bear that out. Denying that at this point is kind of bizarre.

Nope.

I said he is overrated. Didn't say Jerry is better lol

 

[tomokawan]

They don't draft better but where they excelled is they were able to savage Sam Bradford and Wentz into picks.

Those extra 1st rounders helped a lot.

And they can draft their *** off on linemen. That honestly helps everything when you can build a offensive line. And not rely on 1st rounders to do it. They've used those 1st rounders on their defensive line on Davis, Cox and Carter.

That is it right there. They fleeced the Vikings and Colts big time.

 

[aikemirv]

Their Oline is very good and the Titans screwed the whole NFC by trading away AJ Brown!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That is it right there. They fleeced the Vikings and Colts big time.

They did smh. They’ve traded for first rounders masterfully I’ll give Howie is due on that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Their Oline is very good and the Titans screwed the whole NFC by trading away AJ Brown!

I don’t even know why they did it was it money?

 

[aikemirv]

I don’t even know why they did it was it money?

Yeah I think so. They did not want to sign him to the long term deal if I remember correctly.

 

[Mr_437]

Yeah, there is a difference in rosters. Also a difference in coaching staffs, which is also in the purview of the GM.

And then, what's beautiful about this, is we have actual results to look at. Actual evidence. And when you look at that, Philly has been a far more successful franchise under Roseman than we have been with Jerry as the GM, post Jimmy.

So I am not sure how one can try to argue that we do, in fact, build teams as well, if not better, than the Eagles at this point.

I think PHI has better structure as an Organization, so I agree with you on many of your points. However, I feel the roster difference is closer than you do.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah I think so. They did not want to sign him to the long term deal if I remember correctly.

Doesn't even make sense. As if Tannenhill needed less weapons. Just don't get it. Never will. He's 26 now. So they decided at 24 that naw he wasn't worth it lol. Unbelievable.

 

[Reality]

You just wanna be the hot team no one wants to face in the post season.

Exactly!