Is Philly better at building teams than us?

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Many weren't extremely hard to replace because they were mediocre to lower value players to begin with. The reality is teams don't find it particularly hard to churn the bottom end of their rosters. Again, you are are trying to argue that not having Roby should be viewed as a loss when you literally signed him off the street a few weeks ago.

Now if you lose someone like Sweat and the backup comes in and plays well, yeah, that's some nice depth there. But pimping your depth because a new JAG you had replaced the other JAG you signed off the street last week, LOL, that's bordering on some crazy homerism right there.

It is a loss though when he immediately starts because he’s the best player at that position you have in your roster

 

[Sydla]

It is a loss though when he immediately starts because he’s the best player at that position you have in your roster

Doesn't change the fact he's a total JAG and was on the street for a reason and when he gets hurt, he's likely not going to be that hard to replace with someone of similar value. Because at that point, you were already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I mean that's just reality.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Doesn't change the fact he's a total JAG and was on the street for a reason and when he gets hurt, he's likely not going to be that hard to replace with someone of similar value. Because at that point, you were already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I mean that's just reality.

I don’t understand your point at all. Hendershot is not a star player. So his backups can’t be considered good depth because he’s not good enough to be a big blow if he’s out?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Dak pumped them in a game against Gardner Minshew, which was no different than them beating us when we ran out Cooper Rush.

So in other words you need to be healthy.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

There's also no accounting for pride when one comes here and shows total homerism by arguing that Roseman isn't that good a GM and the only difference between him and Jerry, at this point, is pure luck.

LOL.

Did I say that? No.

 

[Sydla]

I don’t understand your point at all. Hendershot is not a star player. So his backups can’t be considered good depth because he’s not good enough to be a big blow if he’s out?

Hendershot is a JAG TE. No, I wouldn't be pimping our depth if we had an adequate replacement for a JAG TE.

We replaced a JAG with another JAG. That's it. It's not like we replaced DeMarcus Lawrence with some backup that went out there and played really well and had an impact on the game.

 

[Sydla]

Did I say that? No.

Ehh that's basically what you are insinuating. That Jerry is no worse at his job than Roseman and that what separates them mostly is luck (your whole, flip Tyron/Frederick with Johnson/Kelce thing).

Roseman is a Top 3 GM in this league. He's much better at his job than Jerry (specifically, Jerry the GM). Philly is better at roster building/construction than we are. The results on the field bear that out. Denying that at this point is kind of bizarre.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Hendershot is a JAG TE. No, I wouldn't be pimping our depth if we had an adequate replacement for a JAG TE.

We replaced a JAG with another JAG. That's it. It's not like we replaced DeMarcus Lawrence with some backup that went out there and played really well and had an impact on the game.

Thats two different conversations though. A bad TE replacing Travis Kelce or a bad TE replacing Hendershot is still bad depth. A JAG replacing Kelce is still good depth, even if he’s not Travis Kelce. It’s not a reflection on the backup in who his starter is, only what the backup’s skill level is. And ours are better than most

 

[Sydla]

Thats two different conversations though. A bad TE replacing Travis Kelce or a bad TE replacing Hendershot is still bad depth. A JAG replacing Kelce is still good depth, even if he’s not Travis Kelce. It’s not a reflection on the backup in who his starter is, only what the backup’s skill level is. And ours are better than most

That's not what I said. If Kelce got hurt and their backup went out there and had a nice impact on the game (granted not at the level of Kelce), yeah, that shows quality depth.

When a backup JAG TE, who has a minimal impact on a game typically, gets hurt and the guy who replaces him just basically performs at the same JAG level, yeah, I am not going to be talking about how good our depth is.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

That's not what I said. If Kelce got hurt and their backup went out there and had a nice impact on the game (granted not at the level of Kelce), yeah, that shows quality depth.

When a backup JAG TE, who has a minimal impact on a game typically, gets hurt and the guy who replaces him just basically performs at the same JAG level, yeah, I am not going to be talking about how good our depth is.

How do you define impact? We had 2-3 backup DBs in the game at any given point and held the Dolphins to their lowest yardage output of the season. Sua Opeta played RG all game and Hurts was upright for most of it despite Miami’s talent on the Dline. They don’t have to blow up the stat page to matter.

Depth isn’t always concrete in quality, it’s relative. How many teams could have done that to Miami in that situation?

 

[Chuck 54]

Philly definitely is better in recent years at building a team. They avoid spending big on RB. They never let a top DL orOL guy drop past them in the draft in favor of a name. They don’t trade for guys who are at the end; they make splash trades for difference makers.

They make sure they have a great TE, drafting Godert when Ertz was still in his prime. They have 2 #1 receivers. They have 2 excellent corners, but they emphasize the trenches on both sides of the ball. They win games in the trenches and make sure they can win with any competent QB. QB is the hardest position to find a difference maker super star, but winning in the trenches makes it easy on the QB.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Here’s why they are better.

They won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles and moved off him.

They got to that Super Bowll with Wentz and moved off him.

Chip Kelly won ten games and they moved off him.

We are paralyzed by fear of change so we’re always “pretty good.” They take chances and go to Super Bowls.

We go to Wild Cards.

 

[stiletto]

Here’s why they are better.

They won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles and moved off him.

They got to that Super Bowll with Wentz and moved off him.

Chip Kelly won ten games and they moved off him.

We are paralyzed by fear of change so we’re always “pretty good.” They take chances and go to Super Bowls.

We go to Wild Cards.

Well Jerry moved off Jimmy Johnson and won a SB, probably the worst thing that has ever happened to the franchise....

 

[MyFairLady]

Nah Jerry is way better his team is worth lots of money and sells crazy amounts of jerseys. Get with the program people.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

they always have a dominant two way dt. they had f cox for a decade. Now they have two younger d tackles with cox still rotating. we have good outside guys like ware and
Micah. Their defenses are consistently more physical and better against the run. we both build up the o lines and receiver corps. you can argue daks a better qb. they have two number one wr s and a top te. they made two superbowls in the last 5 years. we often rush the passer and cover well but struggle defending the run. Is that the key?

They don't draft better but where they excelled is they were able to savage Sam Bradford and Wentz into picks.

Those extra 1st rounders helped a lot.

And they can draft their *** off on linemen. That honestly helps everything when you can build a offensive line. And not rely on 1st rounders to do it. They've used those 1st rounders on their defensive line on Davis, Cox and Carter.

 

[DallasEast]

Is Philly better at building teams than us?​

Not sure if this is a serious question.

In sports, team building is a goal meant for competing and winning championships. The sport of professional football is neither an outlier nor an exception for this goal.

Perhaps a serious question would be re-worded as, "Has either Philadelphia or Dallas built better teams between _________ and ________?" Years should be inserted into the blanks to serve as a date range.

A correct answer can then be determined. The correct answer will be applicable to either team, depending on a particular date range.

 

[Sydla]

Not sure if this is a serious question.

In sports, team building is a goal meant for competing and winning championships. The sport of professional football is neither an outlier nor an exception for this goal.

Perhaps a serious question would be re-worded as, "Has either Philadelphia or Dallas built better teams between _________ and ________?" Years should be inserted into the blanks to serve as a date range.

A correct answer can then be determined. The correct answer will be applicable to either team, depending on a particular date range.

I get it but I think the OP is talking about a recent time frame under the reign of Jerry as GM. And there is no doubt that no matter how you slice it since our last SB win, Philly just does a better job at team building, hiring coaches, etc.

We are unfortunately bolted to Jerry and Stephen. There's no hope that some GM will come along and fix us. We are stuck with the reality that Jerry and then his son believe themselves to be football people that understand the game as well as anyone. There is little doubt in my mind Jerry would have more SBs in his trophy case if he understood that his football knowledge is limited and hired real GMs to run his team.

In all honesty, Cowboys fans should kidnap Stephen's oldest son and make him live with the Ozzie Newsome or Howie Roseman family and then he can return to run the team in 10-15 years.

 

[Doomsday]

Their offensive and defensive lines are better than Dallas' lines. That is the main difference in the two teams, and probably why they will win the division again this season.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Their offensive and defensive lines are better than Dallas' lines. That is the main difference in the two teams, and probably why they will win the division again this season.

I believe your lines are better than you guys give them credit for. You legitimately have a borderline top 5 Oline. The biggest reason IMO is the person you guys seem to hate the sight of

 

[blueblood70]

For some reason you can't seem to grasp that on any given Sunday, a inferior team can beat a superior team.

Reality is on any gameday, a better team can lose.

The bigger question becomes when does it matter when you win or lose? Common sense answer is you loose when it doesn't knock you out of the playoffs.

Perhaps a hard truth, but a truth never the less.

I know you're not talking to me I state any given Sunday anytime and I don't even know who you are you don't come in here often enough to know who I am because I don't even see your post very often so don't say I can't grasp it I can't grasp why why somebody's gonna come on here and talk about the Philadelphia Eagles that was my point... I really don't care it shouldn't be on our front page until the week we play them and that is it,,