Is Romo starting to get some media love? Ray Lewis Says

ABQCOWBOY

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"it takes a team to win a Super Bowl, no one man can do it by himself."

I been preaching it Ray Ray yet falls on deaf ears for some

I agree Dooms but it's hard to say a team wins the Super Bowl when you are paying one player such a disproportional amount of money, with regards to the rest of the team.

I mean, hey, I get it, QBs make more money but it's hard to accept that if you're one of those other guys or sometimes even the casual fan.
 

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I agree Dooms but it's hard to say a team wins the Super Bowl when you are paying one player such a disproportional amount of money, with regards to the rest of the team.

I mean, hey, I get it, QBs make more money but it's hard to accept that if you're one of those other guys or sometimes even the casual fan.

I understand that QB's get paid more they are a focal point on any team and thus they do take the heat. But if you just break down the game of football not the business side of the game but the game itself. While the QB is still important his success depends a lot on others around him from his OL to his WR. QB can't block for himself, he can't run the rout himself and he can't make the catch he has to depend on those players to do the job. he does not play defense he has no control when the opposing team has the ball and is marching for a late game drive. he does not kick FG. QB is very important but his success and failure is depends on others to a large degree.
 

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I understand that QB's get paid more they are a focal point on any team and thus they do take the heat. But if you just break down the game of football not the business side of the game but the game itself. While the QB is still important his success depends a lot on others around him from his OL to his WR. QB can't block for himself, he can't run the rout himself and he can't make the catch he has to depend on those players to do the job. he does not play defense he has no control when the opposing team has the ball and is marching for a late game drive. he does not kick FG. QB is very important but his success and failure is depends on others to a large degree.

Problem is, you can't separate the money from the game in the NFL.
 

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Ray Lewis knows it more than anyone after watching Joe Flacco get a ring lol. Its def. a team game.

But the media has really turned on Romo since the Bronco's game. He's getting a lot more love now than ever.
 

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You should hear what Collin was saying on the Herd about Romo a bit ago. He took Romo haters to school. lol
 

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To some degree you can if you look at it for what it truely is and that is a game. If you play for 100 million or for free the game is still the game.

No, I can't really agree here. I mean, we see it every day in professional sports. It's all about money and that pretty much dominates the landscape. Every phase of the game is driven by money.

Sucks but that's the way it is, at least IMO.
 

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Romo's definitely made some costly mistakes in his career, but I think he takes WAY more than his fair share of the blame.

People love to run back the fumbled snap in Seattle. Or the 13-3 year we went out to NY. But remember that game, Crayton (if I remember correctly) dropped an EASY 3rd down conversion which would have likely changed the entire outcome. Romo of course threw the pick later and we lost.

This was said on this board time and time again on Monday, but without Romo, we look like Minnesota, or even NY the way Eli is playing this year

Besides Peyton, Brady, and Brees, I don't think anyone else is really any better than Romo. But there's a lot worse.
 

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No, I can't really agree here. I mean, we see it every day in professional sports. It's all about money and that pretty much dominates the landscape. Every phase of the game is driven by money.

Sucks but that's the way it is, at least IMO.

I agree money is a big part for players but the game in and of itself is still a game. The object of the game is still the same be it NFL or high school. You still run and pass you still defend and tackle it is still the same game.
 

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I agree money is a big part for players but the game in and of itself is still a game. The object of the game is still the same be it NFL or high school. You still run and pass you still defend and tackle it is still the same game.

Not at the Professional Level. Hasn't been for a long time. It's entertainment. The game has been changed so much from the original sport, for no other reason then to simply be more entertaining to fans. If it were simply a sport, the game would not have gone through such a drastic change in such a short period of time. There was really nothing wrong with the game before all of the major changes occurred. Money changed all of that.

This is going to be one of those things we just agree to disagree on I think Dooms. I just see it differently.
 

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Not at the Professional Level. Hasn't been for a long time. It's entertainment. The game has been changed so much from the original sport, for no other reason then to simply be more entertaining to fans. If it were simply a sport, the game would not have gone through such a drastic change in such a short period of time. There was really nothing wrong with the game before all of the major changes occurred. Money changed all of that.

This is going to be one of those things we just agree to disagree on I think Dooms. I just see it differently.

Evidently we will just agree to disagree. :) what I see on sunday is the game of football being played. I do think attitudes have changed I think motives have changed but when the guys are between the white lines and the ball is kicked off it is still a game.
 

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While I do think some perception is based on money I believe that players are paid according to market prices. It's not Romo's fault QBs get premium pay. I think the money when on the field playing the game is irrelevant. You're not thinking of a payday when you're operating on some one. You're just doing the best you can.
 

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Romo needs to continue producing but he needs to produce a win in a 'big' game or he's going to regretfully carry this baggage around with him for the rest of his life. .

And so he should. He earned it.
 

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Ray Lewis knows it more than anyone after watching Joe Flacco get a ring lol. Its def. a team game.

But the media has really turned on Romo since the Bronco's game. He's getting a lot more love now than ever.

Yeah, Joe Flacco didn't play like Montana or anything in their playoff run/super bowl. He sucked.. his defense had to do it all.
 

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15 TDs and only 5 picks after 7 weeks will do that
 

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You see Your Honor. I rest my case.

Romo would be the first to tell you he has to show up in a win and you're in game or throughout the playoffs. Otherwise, all his stats etc. are for nil. If he doesn't produce at the MOST important time and have some success there, then he isn't a winner. He will always be known as a good QB that choked, that will be his legacy.
 

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Am I supposed to believe that Romo has won 60 out of 104 football games and not even one of them counts as a "big game?"
 

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Romo would be the first to tell you he has to show up in a win and you're in game or throughout the playoffs. Otherwise, all his stats etc. are for nil. If he doesn't produce at the MOST important time and have some success there, then he isn't a winner. He will always be known as a good QB that choked, that will be his legacy.

That's not what I think but what the perception will be of some of the less informed.

Think Sonny Jurgensen and Dan Fouts. Jurgensen played in one playoff game and his team lost that one. Haven't seen anyone bring his name up before. No NFL titles or SBs for them yet look what people who know thought of them. Bobby Layne and Warren Moon. Fran Tarkenton was considered a choker by some. Jim Kelly. Marino was thought of by some as just a stat guy who couldn't win. Archie Manning was a great talent surrounded by a very bad team. You're on the losing side of your argument but you're not alone.
 
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