Is Romo starting to get some media love? Ray Lewis Says

[CowboysFanSince88]

Can Romo win 3-4 playoff games in a row?? No, that takes a team effort. Lets wait until his career is over before we draw comparisons and label him.

All I know is when Romo does in fact win a championship with us, this forum will lose some users(critics).

He only has about 3 years left maybe 4 lol Why are u acting like he is 26?

 

[perrykemp]

I see not one single person replied to my post about Jurgensen, Moon, Marino, Tarkenton, Fouts et al. Answer that one and give us all an answer to how those people are considered great enough to be in the HOF yet at least one had zero playoff wins. While it's premature at least to compare Romo to those guys at this point, it's germane to discuss either no playoff wins, limited success in the playoffs or no SB wins to the argument against Romo.

Jobberone: I am a Romo fan. I absolutely believe if he wins a Superbowl and possibly just gets to a Superbowl, Tony goes into the HOF. Where I disagree is I think the bar for a QB to go into the HOF is much higher than 40 years ago when Jurgenson stopped playing.

All the NFL QBs inducted over the last 20 years have had better playoff credentials that Romo does now -- with Moon being the closest, however, I think Moon is a special case. I had posted this is another related thread a few days ago I think it is relevant here:

Only QB I can think of in recent times who made the HoF with a sketchy playoff record was Warren Moon who played in 10 playoff games and only won 3. IMHO he received special consideration on HOF evaluation because he was effectively blocked from playing quarterback in the NFL when he came out of Washington as a black QB and the NFL clubs told him he couldn't play QB for them... all he did was go on and win 5 CFL championships in 6 years in the CFL before jumping to the NFL.
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Beyond Warren Moon, the other HOF QBs inducted over the past 20 years have been:

• • Troy Aikman: Tons of playoff wins and 3 superbowls
  • Steve Young: Tons of playoff wins and a Superbowl
  • Jim Kelly: Tons of playoff wins and 4 Superbowl appearaces
  • John Elway: Tons of playoff wins, tons of Superbowl losses, and 2 Superbowl wins
  • Dan Marino: Lot of playoff wins (8 of them), a Superbowl loss

That's the list of NFL QB HOF inductees inducted over the past 20 years. All of them won Superbowls OR at least got to a Superbowl (and lost) and won a bunch of playoff games (Kelly:9, Marino:8).​

In summary, if you want to be the NFL Hall-of-Fame as a NFL QB, it is absolutely MANDATORY to have success in the post-season -- at least based on what we've seen the modern passing era of the last 20 years.

If Romo finished in the Top 10 of QB rating, TDs, yards, etc and only finishes with one playoff win, then he deserves to be the hall-of-the-very-good and the Cowboys ring-of-honor -- nothing more.

 

[Redball Express]

Agreed, it takes a team to win. However; can a QB cost you a game?

Oh sure.

Just ask Don Meredith..


Or Craig Morton..

..or

Danny White..

..

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

Jobberone: I am a Romo fan. I absolutely believe if he wins a Superbowl and possibly just gets to a Superbowl, Tony goes into the HOF. Where I disagree is I think the bar for a QB to go into the HOF is much higher than 40 years ago when Jurgenson stopped playing.

All the NFL QBs inducted over the last 20 years have had better playoff credentials that Romo does now -- with Moon being the closest, however, I think Moon is a special case. I had posted this is another related thread a few days ago I think it is relevant here:

Only QB I can think of in recent times who made the HoF with a sketchy playoff record was Warren Moon who played in 10 playoff games and only won 3. IMHO he received special consideration on HOF evaluation because he was effectively blocked from playing quarterback in the NFL when he came out of Washington as a black QB and the NFL clubs told him he couldn't play QB for them... all he did was go on and win 5 CFL championships in 6 years in the CFL before jumping to the NFL.
​

Beyond Warren Moon, the other HOF QBs inducted over the past 20 years have been:

• • Troy Aikman: Tons of playoff wins and 3 superbowls
  • Steve Young: Tons of playoff wins and a Superbowl
  • Jim Kelly: Tons of playoff wins and 4 Superbowl appearaces
  • John Elway: Tons of playoff wins, tons of Superbowl losses, and 2 Superbowl wins
  • Dan Marino: Lot of playoff wins (8 of them), a Superbowl loss

That's the list of NFL QB HOF inductees inducted over the past 20 years. All of them won Superbowls OR at least got to a Superbowl (and lost) and won a bunch of playoff games (Kelly:9, Marino:8).​

In summary, if you want to be the NFL Hall-of-Fame as a NFL QB, it is absolutely MANDATORY to have success in the post-season -- at least based on what we've seen the modern passing era of the last 20 years.

If Romo finished in the Top 10 of QB rating, TDs, yards, etc and only finishes with one playoff win, then he deserves to be the hall-of-the-very-good and the Cowboys ring-of-honor -- nothing more.

To the HOF? You high?

 

[perrykemp]

To the HOF? You high?

If he can get to a Superbowl, yeah, I think he goes.

 

[cowboys1981]

He only has about 3 years left maybe 4 lol Why are u acting like he is 26?

3-4 years? You know what can happen in that time? He can even help win one this year for us! Last time I checked, we are in first. I guess there is no chance. Thx for clearing that up for all of us. We can all find better things to do on Sunday. Thx for ruining the fun.

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

3-4 years? You know what can happen in that time? He can even help win one this year for us! Last time I checked, we are in first. I guess there is no chance. Thx for clearing that up for all of us. We can all find better things to do on Sunday. Thx for ruining the fun.

4 years he will be 38 and time flies. Seemed like it was just 2009 and we was in the playoffs. After 35 you don't see many starting QB's with his playing style so that's why I don't believe he will be playing at 37/38 like Peyton Manning

 

[cowboys1981]

4 years he will be 38 and time flies. Seemed like it was just 2009 and we was in the playoffs. After 35 you don't see many starting QB's with his playing style so that's why I don't believe he will be playing at 37/38 like Peyton Manning

Time does fly. Just because its a rare oddity, doesn't make it impossible. If there is one player who can defy the odds, it's Romo. For a QB who wasn't drafted, the expectations are through the roof. QB's like Leinart, Young, Campbell, Clausen, Sanchez, Russell, Gabbert, Freeman....etc. were drafted high and are nowhere near Romo's level. I can live with being wrong, but until his playing days are over, my faith will remain in #9.

 

[Beast_from_East]

That's my point, does ANYBODY believe Romo can win 3-4 play-off games in a row, please explain to me how? I can't believe all his teammates trust he can. I don't even think Tony believes it.
Look at the Denver game, yeah, the defense sucked, but they never quit and ultimately allowed the offense to come back. How do you think the players felt when all of the sudden BOOM the game was over? Sure they'll say the right thing later, but after that pick, and the Commanders last year, and countless others, does the team really have 100% confidence in Romo? Does he exude confidence like Aikman or Staubach, Brady, Rogers, Montana, ect... almost willing the team to play above their level? Sorry, but he doesn't have "it"... so yes a QB can be worth more than stats, and effect the game in many ways.

Sorry, but when the defense gives up a 50 burger, to even suggest that it is the QBs fault is just laughable.


I tell the defense to shut the hell up if they dont like the way the game ended............next time, force a dam punt during the game.......just one.........is that too much to ask?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Look at the Denver game, yeah, the defense sucked, but they never quit and ultimately allowed the offense to come back. How do you think the players felt when all of the sudden BOOM the game was over? .

My guess is they felt like the defense let them down. 51 points? Really?

 

[Beast_from_East]

My guess is they felt like the defense let them down. 51 points? Really?

I swear, we have some of the dumbest fans in the NFL.

How a QB can throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs while the defense gives up a 50 burger..........................and fans say its the QB's fault................wow.

 

[jobberone]

Jobberone: I am a Romo fan. I absolutely believe if he wins a Superbowl and possibly just gets to a Superbowl, Tony goes into the HOF. Where I disagree is I think the bar for a QB to go into the HOF is much higher than 40 years ago when Jurgenson stopped playing.

All the NFL QBs inducted over the last 20 years have had better playoff credentials that Romo does now -- with Moon being the closest, however, I think Moon is a special case. I had posted this is another related thread a few days ago I think it is relevant here:

Only QB I can think of in recent times who made the HoF with a sketchy playoff record was Warren Moon who played in 10 playoff games and only won 3. IMHO he received special consideration on HOF evaluation because he was effectively blocked from playing quarterback in the NFL when he came out of Washington as a black QB and the NFL clubs told him he couldn't play QB for them... all he did was go on and win 5 CFL championships in 6 years in the CFL before jumping to the NFL.
​

Beyond Warren Moon, the other HOF QBs inducted over the past 20 years have been:

• • Troy Aikman: Tons of playoff wins and 3 superbowls
  • Steve Young: Tons of playoff wins and a Superbowl
  • Jim Kelly: Tons of playoff wins and 4 Superbowl appearaces
  • John Elway: Tons of playoff wins, tons of Superbowl losses, and 2 Superbowl wins
  • Dan Marino: Lot of playoff wins (8 of them), a Superbowl loss

That's the list of NFL QB HOF inductees inducted over the past 20 years. All of them won Superbowls OR at least got to a Superbowl (and lost) and won a bunch of playoff games (Kelly:9, Marino:8).​

In summary, if you want to be the NFL Hall-of-Fame as a NFL QB, it is absolutely MANDATORY to have success in the post-season -- at least based on what we've seen the modern passing era of the last 20 years.

If Romo finished in the Top 10 of QB rating, TDs, yards, etc and only finishes with one playoff win, then he deserves to be the hall-of-the-very-good and the Cowboys ring-of-honor -- nothing more.

The point of my post was that QBs without a lot of playoff success could still be thought of as elite. I used the HOF (and Archie Manning in the original post) to illustrate the point since it would be hard for anyone to argue those guys weren't elite. I wasn't arguing who should be elected into the HOF or what criteria should be used.

 

[perrykemp]

The point of my post was that QBs without a lot of playoff success could still be thought of as elite. I used the HOF (and Archie Manning in the original post) to illustrate the point since it would be hard for anyone to argue those guys weren't elite. I wasn't arguing who should be elected into the HOF or what criteria should be used.

Got it. My bad then.

 

[UDcowboysfan]

Such is the life of an NFL QB, and it's amplified being the QB for America's Team.

I'm with you he is the top situation to get over analyzed, the man has been so consistent for us every year he has started. I think of all these teams that would die for him, maybe all but 5-6 teams would be better off with Romo over their starter.

 

[Section446]

I'm with you he is the top situation to get over analyzed, the man has been so consistent for us every year he has started. I think of all these teams that would die for him, maybe all but 5-6 teams would be better off with Romo over their starter.

There's no doubt that we're lucky to have the guy, I just wish that he could get over the hump, and start winning those big games.

 

[5Stars]

If anyone truly believes that game is on Romo, then yes, they're very ignorant on the subject of football. I don't care if I come across to brash, what do you "realist" usually say? You "tell it like it is", well I'm doing just that.

Also, why do you feel the need to call someone you don't even know a kid? Does it give you a sense of power that you're above me? Well, for the record I'm not, but I do find it amusing that you're making wild assumptions again. You seem to have no problem doing so, especially when it comes to the topic of Romo.

UFC, how about you take your own advice and grow up.

Oh no, now you have done it! ufcunrules has put you on ignore. Don't worry, when he gets cornered or someone disagrees with his hatred he puts them on ignore...in other words he can't stand the heat in the kitchen so he gets the hell out of there! lmao

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

The point of my post was that QBs without a lot of playoff success could still be thought of as elite. I used the HOF (and Archie Manning in the original post) to illustrate the point since it would be hard for anyone to argue those guys weren't elite. I wasn't arguing who should be elected into the HOF or what criteria should be used.

No QB can ever be thought of as Elite when the team missed the playoffs 3 times when he was the starter

2008
2011
2012


The End

 

[5Stars]

No QB can ever be thought of as Elite when the team missed the playoffs 3 times when he was the starter

2008
2011
2012


The End

The beginning.

You do not have a clue about football or this team.

The End.


smh

 

[jobberone]

Got it. My bad then.

Respect.

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

The beginning.

You do not have a clue about football or this team.

The End.


smh

So the team didn't miss the playoffs those 3 years because of him??? Especially his DUD on the road in Philly and Washington in 2008 and 2012