Is there anybody who is missing Parcells as Our Head Coach Right now?

[Rampage]

if Romo didn't drop the ball like he likes to do all the time Parcells would probably still be here and we would've won the bowl in 2007.

 

[bbgun]

I miss co-GM Bill more than Coach Bill. When he left, we went too far in the opposite direction personality-wise.

 

[Hostile]

what exactly is it that you think Belichick did while with the Giants that makes him the all-moving force behind those seasons?

you guys act like Belichick had full autonomy to run those Ds, when Parcells has never given any of his coordinators that type of power

so, I ask, what is that Belichick did? answer that, and I'll give this argument a little more credence

Oh my gosh. Does it matter?

Look at the numbers with the guy as his DC and the numbers with him not.

It screams out dichotomy. Who cares what it is, it is clearly something.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Oh my gosh. Does it matter?

Look at the numbers with the guy as his DC and the numbers with him not.

It screams out dichotomy. Who cares what it is, it is clearly something.

it's not something when Belichick never had full-control on how those Ds were called while with Parcells

 

[dbair1967]

dbair if your going to nitpick the man, learn his history.

He was loved at air force, he was loved at texas tech. the guys that played at tech for him speak as highly as the guys who played in the nfl for him.

he was the head coach for one year at air force, they said they were so blown away by what he installed there, they used his philosophy for 20 years.

and again, bellichick was the special teams coach and assistant lb coach to Bill Parcells when they were assitants in ny. They ran those defenses together. Bill was the coordinator lb coach and little bill the apprentice. WHen bill got the head job in 83 he continued to run the defense with little bill, again his apprentice. Bill gave him the official coordinator title in 85.

At least know his history if your going to nitpick.

I love this argument about parcells not being successful in new england until belichick showed up. Its pure comedy. 2-14 to 10-6 in two years with young players everywhere and a rookie qb, in a division with marino and shula and kelly and levy.

Hillarious.

I know plenty of history about him, the difference between you and me is you think he hung the moon, and I think he is somewhat overrated.

The truth is he hasnt won a playoff game in a decade...hasnt been to a super bowl in almost 15 yrs and hasnt won one in almost 20 yrs...he had a great team in 1986 that got on a huge roll at the end of the yr and rolled through the postseason...his other championship team was a good team, but it wasnt a great team and needed some serious luck in the NFC Champ and Super Bowl to win it all.

I think he deserves alot of credit for "turning teams around"...everywhere he goes he does work to get things going back in the right direction. He deserves immense credit for what he did he in terms of changing the atmosphere and getting our scouting dept returned to one of the better one's in the league. But as a HC alone, he was a failure here. 4 yrs for 18 million sould get you something better than basically a .500 record and 0-2 in the playoffs. I think he's one of those people thats good enough to get things going in the right direction, but nowhere near good enough to get a team to the top anymore.

 

[dbair1967]

it's not something when Belichick never had full-control on how those Ds were called while with Parcells

Thats another thing I wonder why you continue to bring up, because every season Beliechick was with Parcells the defenses were FAR better than in seasons without him.

Not sure how you can argue otherwise, or say Belichick didnt have enough control or whatever. He built the schemes and called the plays, what more "control" do you think is there to have?

 

[prowess]

Not only no, hell no. I am glad he is gone. Just wasn't good enough for my epicurean tastes.

Tom Landry...250-162-6 regular season, 20-16 post season, overall record 270-178-6, .776 winning %.

Jimmy Johnson...44-36 regular season, 7-1 post season, overall record 51-37, .580 winning %.

Barry Switzer...40-24 regular season, 5-2 post season, overall record 45-26, .634 winning %.

Chan Gailey...18-14 regular season, 0-2 post season, overall record 18-16, .529 winning %.

Dave Campo...15-33 overall record, .313 winning %.

Bill Parcells....34-30 regular season, 0-2 post season, overall record 34-32, .515 winning %.

Wade Phillips...22-10 regular season, 0-1 post season. overall record 22-11, .667 winning %.


So the only guy he did better than is Dave "Timeclock" Campo. Why the hell would I miss that guy? Right, I wouldn't.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Thats another thing I wonder why you continue to bring up, because every season Beliechick was with Parcells the defenses were FAR better than in seasons without him.

Not sure how you can argue otherwise, or say Belichick didnt have enough control or whatever. He built the schemes and called the plays, what more "control" do you think is there to have?

Parcells has never given any of his coordinators any play-calling autonomy, you can't give someone credit for calling the plays when they don't call all the plays

unless you can prove that Belichick was the lone exception

 

[Aikmaniac]

Parcells was probably past his prime as a head coach, but there's no question he knows how to build a winning organization. And it's kind of funny how much of his organizational philosophy was criticized as being old fashioned and irrational suddenly has some logic behind it.

Then ...

"I'm sorry, but in this modern age you got to let the men be men and let the players be themselves. Eventually you just have to trust your players to do the right thing".

Today ...

"Players late for meetings. Players running their mouths. There's no discipline here and no accountability."

Then ....

"Why is Parcells so paranoid about the media? Why does he insist that he's the only one on his staff that talks? What's the big deal about letting his assistant coaches talk?"

Today ...

"This team just need to shut up and quit talking so much. We have people leaking stuff to the media and every other day we have someone on ESPN adding fuel to the fire."

Then ...

"Parcells wears players down. Guys like Romo and Witten have accomplished enough in the league that they don't have to be hounded all the time. Just let them go out and play."


Today ...

"Romo is fat and happy. He doesn't have the desire to be great. He's happy just being good enough."

Then ...

"In this modern age of offense, you just can't win with convervative game plans that just focus on the power running game and time of possession".

Today ...

"Next year we need to go back to a power running offense and quit asking Romo to sling it around all over the field"

I believe this got lost in the Belichick/Parcells comparisons.

Great post InmanRoshi.

 

[RainMan]

Yes. Absolutely.

While I don't miss Parcells the coach (old, tired and rightfully retired) I miss the Parcells influence in the organization. I desperately wish a Parcells assistant was the head coach of this organization right now, still instilling some of the fundamental values he incorporated.

Parcells was far from perfect. But one thing he did was get the organization back on track. He reconstructed everything at Valley Ranch. Remember how the Campo years were looked at in horror while Parcells was here? How stuff would leak out about how things *used* to be done. "You mean to tell us THAT used to go on?!?" we'd post.

Well, we're back to that. We're back to the circus, the pomp, the circumstance, the questionable but high-profile characters. We're one training camp DJ away from going full circle -- not in terms of talent or wins -- but in terms of how the organization is run.

Jerry showed his potential as an owner and GM while Parcells was here. That Jerry Jones was nearly ideal, IMO. He hired a smart football man, let him run the organization and occasionally butted in and made a suggestion. I'm not of the belief that Phillips is a puppet, but clearly things have changed at Valley Ranch.

For instance, ahem, no reality show winner would ever have a chance of making Parcells' training camp roster. And rightfully so.

 

[JackMagist]

Is there anybody who is missing Parcells as Our Head Coach Right now?

NO!!!

We wouldn't be any better off with him than with Wade. We faded down the stretch 4 years in a row with him just like we have down 2 years in a row with Wade. I didn't want either one when we hired them and and I still don't.

We need a new head coach not another burned out retread.

 

[khiladi]

The majority of this 'high-quality' players that people are complaining about as being out-of-control are BP 'draft-picks' per the standards of the Parcells homers when all credit needs to be due to him. I thought the definition of high-quality is people who have character even when they are forced not to act in a certain way. And if Parcells ran a tight ship, then what does that say about 'high-character' guys, who need this type of control to keep them from shoointg off their mouths?