Is This Bledsoe's Last Hurrah???

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Hostile said:
I just don't see the similarity. All you have is age really. Elway was "the guy" in Denver. Bledsoe is a hired gun in Dallas. Elway was mobile and an unquestioned member of the greatest ever discussions. Bledsoe isn't in that strata.

You're right, he's not in that strata.... right now. If he were to put a couple Super Bowl runs together, he would be. I was a big fan of Bledsoe back in the mid-90s, and thought he got a raw deal in New England and Buffalo. Not that I can blame NE for kicking him to the curb, because Brady is great. Who knows what would have happened had Bledsoe not gotten injured in the year of NE's first Super Bowl run?? He could still be the starter there, we may have never heard of Brady, or at least he would be with a different team.

And Buffalo, look at their QB situation right now. What's wrong with Bledsoe being a "hired gun?" This is the age of free agency after all. I just don't see any substance to the argument that Bledsoe's not worthy of consideration as one of the greatest QBs ever, especially if he gets a couple SBs. Yeah, he got sacked a lot, and doesn't have much mobility, but then again, neither did Aikman. This isn't to say Bledsoe is anywhere near Aikman right now, but you can bet if he has a couple of great seasons and wins a couple of SBs he will proabbly be a first ballot HOFer.
 

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Wouldn't a player have to have a first hurrah before he can have a last?


Of course he was probably yelling "hurrah" from the sidelines during the Super Bowl when a real QB came in and lead "his" underachieving team to a ring.
 

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joseephuss said:
Jim Harbaugh and Jake Plummer have quite a few come from behind victories as well. They don't impress me. Elway and Staubach had come from behind victories and they also led their teams to blow out wins quite a bit. Bledsoe is easily better than Harbaugh and Plummber, but he isn't close to being in the category of Elway or Staubach. Career totals don't tell the whole story of any player.

And I'm not saying he is only that over the last 10 years he has lead more come from behind victories than any QB. I also think the way the NFL records talk about come from behind victories I don't agree with. If you 3 points down at the start of the 4th and your team wins that counts as a come from behind victory.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7731297
Bledsoe has led his team to victory after trailing in the fourth quarter 18 times in the past 10 seasons -- tied with Denver's Jake Plummer for the most such wins.

The top five "comeback QBs" since 1995 (starters whose teams trailed at any point in fourth quarter):

Quarterback Teams (1995-present) Comeback Wins
Drew Bledsoe New England, Buffalo 18
Jake Plummer Arizona, Denver 18
Peyton Manning Indianapolis 17
Vinny Testaverde Cleveland, Baltimore, NY Jets, Dallas 17
Kerry Collins Carolina, New Orleans, NY Giants, Oakland 15
 

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I think this could easily be Bledsoe's last year in Dallas.

I believe Parcells will retire at the end of this season and Jerry's going to have that itch to put Henson or Romo in there. Just my feeling.

If Bledsoe plays well again this season, then I can see a scenario where Jerry would possibly keep him around for another year. But if he slips or gets hurt -- combined with Parcells' probable departure -- then I think Jerry and his new coach go a different direction in 2007.
 

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Chief said:
I think this could easily be Bledsoe's last year in Dallas.

I believe Parcells will retire at the end of this season and Jerry's going to have that itch to put Henson or Romo in there. Just my feeling.

If Bledsoe plays well again this season, then I can see a scenario where Jerry would possibly keep him around for another year. But if he slips or gets hurt -- combined with Parcells' probable departure -- then I think Jerry and his new coach go a different direction in 2007.
This is why I said anything is possible. Jerry could become attached to Bledsoe or he could decide the roadblock to Henson is out of the way. The fact is we don't know yet. It's a valid topic.
 

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If he stays healthy, I believe he will play two more very productive Pro Bowl type years.
 

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Dogstar said:
If they don't make it to playoffs, is he done???

Even if they make it to playoffs, is he done?

Plain and simple....

If we make the playoffs, he's back....but probably on a very short leash in 2007 if its only a wildcard birth and an early exit in 2006.

If we win it all, he could either ride off into the sunset or return...my guess is that he would want to come back and play considering he's only 34 and has a chance to move into the top 3 all time in terms of passing records, also why not add another world title or two?

We don't make the playoffs he's likely not coming back, because it would mean he had a terrible season...unless he passes for 4500 yards and the defense is horrible and that's the reason we didn't make it.
 

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TheHustler said:
Bledsoe strikes me as the type who will play until no one wants him as a starting QB.

Exactly, he will always find a home in the NFL....even if he falls flat on his face in 2006 the cowboys self destruct (.0001% chance that's going to happen):cool:
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
No, Bledsoe is still fiarly young given his overall health. I don't understand where these mediots get this perception that Bledsoe has 2 Years left before retirment. Bledsoe is in great shape and very healthy for QBs his age. If you could put a team around him I think he'll open some big eyes and win some meaningful playoof games. Just look at Elway; once all the mediots wrote him off and had him pegged for retirement, the Bromcos decide to build a team around him and BOOM - he's a 2-timing SuperBowl Champion. Bledsoe now has the WR's and RB's; we now have to give him the OL. That's the key.

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Nice post, Drew has a chance to define his entire legacy the next few seasons....even though he is one of the best pure passers to ever play the game, he will be remembered for what he accomplished (or failed to) with dallas the next couple of years.

John Elway was a great, but people overlook the fact that it was Terrell Davis that made the broncos great late in Elway's career. If he hadn't been there its very possible the broncos don't ever win a superbowl because Elway's passing skills diminished greatly later in his career and he never had the arm Drew did.


As for Drew he still has a howitzer and is ready unload as many rounds as dallas is willing to load him up with. He just turned 34 and should have at least 3 good seasons left before his passing abilities dimish.

Don't forget that Rich Gannon won the league MVP award at 37 years old when he passed for 4500 yards! Trent Green is almost 36 and has had the best years of his career the last few seasons. Mark Brunell is almost 37 and threw some pretty nice passes last year with the Deadskins. Warren Moon was lighting up secondaries until he was what 50?

The bottom line is Bledsoe is just getting started, especially now that he has all the pieces in place. I could honestly see him knocking off Marino's records if he plays long enough. :cool:
 

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Bledsoe COULD play until he is 37-38 years old. Having said that, He will be the Cowboys starter at QB in 2006 and 2007 championship or not.

don't be surprised if he's back for the 2008 season as well.
 

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Dogstar said:
If they don't make it to playoffs, is he done???

Even if they make it to playoffs, is he done?

good question, Drew's deal can be voided after this year, it's going to depend on alot of things, such as Henson's progress, what Bledsoe does this year, if Parcells goes or stays, how close the Cowboys feel they are after this year...alot of things
 

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Dogstar said:
If they don't make it to playoffs, is he done???

Even if they make it to playoffs, is he done?
Impossible question to answer at this point in time.
 

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KingTuna said:
Bledsoe COULD play until he is 37-38 years old. Having said that, He will be the Cowboys starter at QB in 2006 and 2007 championship or not.

don't be surprised if he's back for the 2008 season as well.

Hi King Tuna,

I've been thinking....as of right now Drew is 17,804 yards away from Marino's all time mark of 61,361 that nobody thought would ever be threatened.

Does he have a chance of surpassing him? .....absolutely. If not will he come close....most definitely.

Let's assume Drew plays another 5 seasons until he is 38 years old....he would need to average 3561 yards a season to set the all time record. Now obviously he could pick up a big chunk of it over the next two seasons if he passes for @4000+ yards in the regular season and another @700+ in the postseason the next few years, its imperative he racks up the yards now because I don't seem him passing for 3500 yards once he gets to be 36+ years old, but who knows.....

Anything is possible when your name is Drew Bledsoe, and I'd love to see him reach unchartered heights and shatter records as a Cowboy. :bow: :bow:
 

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30+ comebacks....all time leader in o.t touchdowns.yea id say you could compare the two
 

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Hostile said:
I just don't see the similarity. All you have is age really. Elway was "the guy" in Denver. Bledsoe is a hired gun in Dallas. Elway was mobile and an unquestioned member of the greatest ever discussions. Bledsoe isn't in that strata.

Hostile, I'm just curious....if Drew wins a championship or two in dallas, and finishes with over 50,000 yards.....will you still going to make these ridiculous claims? Or will you finally concede that Drew is one of the top 5 QB's of all time and join me in a nice helping of syrup? :laugh1:

Stay Tuned....The rest of Drew's story is yet to be written........
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
Hostile, I'm just curious....if Drew wins a championship or two in dallas, and finishes with over 50,000 yards.....will you still going to make these ridiculous claims? Or will you finally concede that Drew is one of the top 5 QB's of all time and join me in a nice helping of syrup? :laugh1:

Stay Tuned....The rest of Drew's story is yet to be written........

That changes the comparison. You would have to give Drew some more consideration "IF" he win a couple of championships, but they were putting Bledsoe and Elway in the same class now. I just don't see it. Also, people were talking about Elway as one of the all time best before he actually won the Superbowl. He didn't have to win it to be considered great, that just was icing.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Wow! Comparing Drew Bledsoe to John Elway... Hmm.

That isn't that weird.

In three years, Bledsoe will be sitting at #2 all-time for passing yards behind only Marino (for about 3-4 years until Manning passes him on his way to Marino). Assuming the Boys can put him in a position to win like Broncos did for Elway late in his career so he can win a Super Bowl or two, I don't see any reason that he shouldn't be considered an equal to Elway.

Yeah, Elway ran more than Bledsoe, but that is only a style issue. Really, the only thing that makes Elway special and unique is his famous comebacks, and that may be a reason to say that he is ultimately better than Bledsoe. But though he may be better, there is no discredit to Elway to compare Bledsoe to him, especially if he wins a Super Bowl and retires as the #2 passer of all time.
 

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That isn't that weird.

In three years, Bledsoe will be sitting at #2 all-time for passing yards behind only Marino (for about 3-4 years until Manning passes him on his way to Marino). Assuming the Boys can put him in a position to win like Broncos did for Elway late in his career so he can win a Super Bowl or two, I don't see any reason that he shouldn't be considered an equal to Elway.

Yeah, Elway ran more than Bledsoe, but that is only a style issue. Really, the only thing that makes Elway special and unique is his famous comebacks, and that may be a reason to say that he is ultimately better than Bledsoe. But though he may be better, there is no discredit to Elway to compare Bledsoe to him, especially if he wins a Super Bowl and retires as the #2 passer of all time.

Good post. Also to come from behind means you were not playing that great to begin with. :laugh2:
 
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