It look like they have successfully killed all of the Romo magic

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Unless that results in WINS then I don't think you would trade for that.

This board has melted down far too many time because of a Romo INT....even if it's a desperation drive. Romo can't win unless the team WINS.

That is the problem, this dink and dunk isn't resulting in wins either. Romo putting the ball up created a lot more points.

Our offense system still remains to the point that we have no identity, and we are not at all aggressive. Textbook Garrett.
 

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I have no problems with the last drive orchestrated. The offense moved the ball down the field and was at SD 7 yd line ready for a score until the rookie fumbled (BTW I don't fault him too much for trying. Rookie mistake).

Yesterday Romo was not the problem. I don't understand why people just have to blame Romo for everything.

I'm not trying to say Romo is a problem at all. Just pointing out something isn't right scheme injury gun shy I don't knowknow
 

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Unless that results in WINS then I don't think you would trade for that.

This board has melted down far too many time because of a Romo INT....even if it's a desperation drive. Romo can't win unless the team WINS.

But the result hasn't been any different. This team is 2-2 for the third year in a row; sparkling Romo stats notwithstanding. The offensive line is better and Dez Bryant is the best downfield threat Dallas has had since before T.O. had his meltdown. I say, let Romo and the deep passing game loose. San Diego ranked 32nd in passing defense, and we have Dez running ten yard curls and outs almost all game long and we're dumping five yard gains to Murray and Witten. Ugh....
 

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you should read the Scouts take on Newsfeed section on how Rivers disected our D by taking what our D gave him.

I read it and again rivers completed down field passed and audibles to plays to counter what we did and they were able to dictate matchup's. Something isn't working at all for us on Offense. You don't throw for over 400 yards just sinking and dunking they were picking up chunks and we had no answer at all and their defense had an answer for pretty much everything we did
 

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That is the problem, this dink and dunk isn't resulting in wins either. Romo putting the ball up created a lot more points.

Our offense system still remains to the point that we have no identity, and we are not at all aggressive. Textbook Garrett.

I think this offense was implemented when Coaches had very little confidence in the OL. Now that we have Waters and OL have demonstated that it can handle the front we may see offense open up some. But I don't know if Coach Callahan is the one. Garrett as the head coach may need to MAKE Callahan call more vertical plays.

D was a big problem yesterday. Just cannot get off the field and give O more opportunities. Again our drops and penalties killed our own drives.
 

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I read it and again rivers completed down field passed and audibles to plays to counter what we did and they were able to dictate matchup's. Something isn't working at all for us on Offense. You don't throw for over 400 yards just sinking and dunking they were picking up chunks and we had no answer at all and their defense had an answer for pretty much everything we did

Ok. But that is the offensive coordinator's fault for not dictating match ups.
Also River's was 10/10 to Gates in underneath routes. I think that's dinging and dunking too.
 

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I don't think it's Romo's fault that coaches put away vertical routes. Pass to Bryant for TD was more than 12 yds. So was the pass interference call when he threw the seam route to Witten.

Callahan is West Coast offense guy so you are going to get these short passes which relies on receivers to make plays and get YAC.

Like other posters said....you cannot have your cake and eat it too (cut down all the risk taking and expect alot of explosive plays.

I have never been a fan of handcuffing Tony Romo. Just like I have never been a fan of Walsh's WCO. But if Callahan is going to emulate the WCO then he needs to emphasize the most important part, the pass has to be a foot in front of a receiver so he can catch it in stride and maximize YAC (a great example is Dez's TD catch on a drag route).

Cowboys are still using the principles of Air Coryell and throwing to a spot and the spot usually forces the receivers to turn their bodies toward the LOS minimizing YAC. The whole point of Air Coryell is to stretch the field vertically but the hybrid of Air Coryell and WCO at least according to Callahan has been a hot mess.
 

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Ok. But that is the offensive coordinator's fault for not dictating match ups.
Also River's was 10/10 to Gates in underneath routes. I think that's dinging and dunking too.

He had most of the catches over 10 yards they had the running back running down field for catches they had Kenan freaking Allen open for big gains all day. We did we have on offense again? The personnel I've been dying to see all year got 1 play together and I think this group gives us speed size and can create matchup issues. Dez flaked out wide with Williams and Harris in the slot and Witten at TE and Dunbar at RB there was a pitch for 8 yards we can run out if this formation get Dunbar singled up on a LB or Harris or Witten because it will show speed on the field
 

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He had most of the catches over 10 yards they had the running back running down field for catches they had Kenan freaking Allen open for big gains all day. We did we have on offense again? The personnel I've been dying to see all year got 1 play together and I think this group gives us speed size and can create matchup issues. Dez flaked out wide with Williams and Harris in the slot and Witten at TE and Dunbar at RB there was a pitch for 8 yards we can run out if this formation get Dunbar singled up on a LB or Harris or Witten because it will show speed on the field

Again, this is the offensive coordinator's fault for not exploiting match ups. SD did a great job of exploiting ours. Kudo's to them.
 

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I do not like this romo at all now. I get upset at some of his interceptions he throws but I can live with some of them because atleast he trying to score some points. this romo is to cautious and will not throw down the middle of the field anymore. this new and improved romo is setting this team to fail. he also killing the defense by putting them on the field more and the defense cannot handle it.
 

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I do not like this romo at all now. I get upset at some of his interceptions he throws but I can live with some of them because atleast he trying to score some points. this romo is to cautious and will not throw down the middle of the field anymore. this new and improved romo is setting this team to fail. he also killing the defense by putting them on the field more and the defense cannot handle it.

uh, I don't think the D could get off the field at all.

We must be watching different games. Romo was fine. He was not Peyton or Brady but he wasn't why we lost yesterday. Rest of the team....not so much.
 

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Let's see. You know the drive needs a quick score.

Who else might know that?

Hint: They play their home games in San Diego.

And this has stopped Dallas before? I can say the same thing about Dallas. They score right before the half and SD needed quick points everyone knew it was coming. But guess what they executed and created match up issues. I'm not speaking a foreign language here I'm not sure why what I'm saying is so hard to get. We didn't create and match up problems which would've allowed us to get the ball down field and complete 3rd downs.
 

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Again, this is the offensive coordinator's fault for not exploiting match ups. SD did a great job of exploiting ours. Kudo's to them.

As Lee said Rivers countered every time we had a play. Now is that Rivers or the scheme? Kudos to them for pick apart our scheme and shame on our coaches for not exploiting any match up issues they could've created. It's simple really 32nd ranked Pass D with PS players covering Dez. Come on man you mean we couldn't audible or counter anything to get the ball down field? I don't buy it.
 

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The drive where Williams fumbled? I see six of 11 passes to Witten. And a considerable amount of success doing that. Twice going to him to turn 2nd and long into 3rd and manageable and converting 1sts. from that. Honestly, he had one of the league's best TEs in single coverage over and over -- you take that over forcing the ball to Bryant in double coverage.

1-10-DAL 21 (6:49) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short left to T.Williams to DAL 30 for 9 yards (R.Marshall).
2-1-DAL 30 (6:18) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short right to T.Williams to DAL 39 for 9 yards (J.Patrick). P16
1-10-DAL 39 (5:59) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to D.Murray to DAL 40 for 1 yard (D.Butler, M.Gilchrist).
PENALTY on DAL-J.Parnell, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DAL 39 - No Play.
1-20-DAL 29 (5:40) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to J.Witten to DAL 40 for 11 yards (D.Butler).
2-9-DAL 40 (5:14) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep middle to J.Witten.
PENALTY on SD-D.Butler, Defensive Pass Interference, 25 yards, enforced at DAL 40 - No Play. X17

1-10-SD 35 (5:09) (Shotgun) T.Romo sacked at SD 42 for -7 yards (J.Johnson).
2-17-SD 42 (4:40) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to J.Witten to SD 34 for 8 yards (E.Weddle).
3-9-SD 34 (4:14) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to J.Witten to SD 24 for 10 yards (D.Butler). P18

1-10-SD 24 (3:49) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to D.Murray to SD 22 for 2 yards (D.Butler).
2-8-SD 22 (3:25) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep middle to J.Witten.
3-8-SD 22 (3:20) (Shotgun) T.Romo scrambles up the middle to SD 7 for 15 yards (E.Weddle). R19
1-7-SD 7 (2:57) T.Romo pass incomplete short right to J.Witten (M.Gilchrist).
Timeout #1 by SD at 02:50.
(2:50) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to T.Williams to SD 1 for 6 yards (C.Butler; E.Weddle). FUMBLES (C.Butler), RECOVERED by SD
-R.Marshall at SD 0. Touchback.

Another way to look at that drive is that is what the chargers wanted him to do. 8 and 10 yard passes to Witten are a given. The best player on the team did not get a target. If they are going to double dez run Williams on a deep cross behind the clear out. 5 minutes down 9 you can't win with 8 yard passes over the middle
 

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As Lee said Rivers countered every time we had a play. Now is that Rivers or the scheme? Kudos to them for pick apart our scheme and shame on our coaches for not exploiting any match up issues they could've created. It's simple really 32nd ranked Pass D with PS players covering Dez. Come on man you mean we couldn't audible or counter anything to get the ball down field? I don't buy it.

Didn't the board just neutered Romo for calling audibles all the time against the Chiefs (or whenever we lost). Now we want him to audible more. So which is it that we want exactly? Furthermore, even if he has two plays called by the coaches every play...he audibles to the other play. How do you know what plays were called by THE COACH?

Even bad D have good days or vice versa. They have PS players.....We do too have PS players starting on our D line too (two of them). Doesn't mean they can't play.

I like us to throw deep too. Maybe someone has the 22 films to see how they were covering down field.
 

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Completely disagree. I prefer this mistake-free version of Romo. But, along with that we need a strong running game and a solid defense. Without everything working together we're stuck in 8-8 land. I don't think our corners are suited to playing zone, but that's an entirely different thread.






"It look like they have successfully killed all of the Romo magic as well and now we have ourselves a bus driver.

Give me my Brett Favre Romo back and get rid of this Alex Smith style Romo."

Catch17 said this in another thread, and I thought it was so good that it deserved its own thread. This is so, so true.
 

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Didn't the board just neutered Romo for calling audibles all the time against the Chiefs (or whenever we lost). Now we want him to audible more. So which is it that we want exactly? Furthermore, even if he has two plays called by the coaches every play...he audibles to the other play. How do you know what plays were called by THE COACH?

Even bad D have good days or vice versa. They have PS players.....We do too have PS players starting on our D line too (two of them). Doesn't mean they can't play.

I like us to throw deep too. Maybe someone has the 22 films to see how they were covering down field.

Really? Bottom line is Rivers and the coaches created match up problems for the boys and took advantage of our weak areas. Quick passes attack the zones and get the RB and TE iso'd on a LB. We did none of that on offense.
 

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I prefer this Romo. It may be boring, but it has his turnovers under control.
 

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I think this offense was implemented when Coaches had very little confidence in the OL. Now that we have Waters and OL have demonstated that it can handle the front we may see offense open up some. But I don't know if Coach Callahan is the one. Garrett as the head coach may need to MAKE Callahan call more vertical plays.

D was a big problem yesterday. Just cannot get off the field and give O more opportunities. Again our drops and penalties killed our own drives.

Our WRs run downfield all day and have been... the problem is, they run down the sidelines...
 
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