It's not just us, Lane Johnson just got a 10 game suspension

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I just saw that, lets trade Leary or Collins for their best DE? Curious though, what does your title mean?

Making the playing field more even.. We lost guys and now they have too. I had to read it a couple times myself..lol
 

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There's a 'the league is out to get us mantra' when it comes to suspensions? I've never seen any sign of it. Our damage has been self-inflicted in that area.

EDIT: come to think of it, maybe you're referencing the 'Mara will make sure Zeke gets suspended' stuff. That's outlier posting from the fringe. Not really indicative of how the fanbase feels, overall.

He's only here to criticize people who actually give the Cowboys the benefit of the doubt.
 

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He's only here to criticize people who actually give the Cowboys the benefit of the doubt.

I'm so tired of Cowboys fans who act like Eagles fans dressed in blue and silver. But CalPoly can string together an argument. Even if I disagree with the guy, that's so much better than just a snarky one-liner drive by.

EDIT, it looks like that's what he did do here, after all, but that's not par for the course. Usually he sticks around for a discussion, which is cool by me even if his take is negative. If more realists would just engage instead of pretending the rest of us are completely blind homers, the threads would be a lot more tolerable here before the season finally starts.
 

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I'd disagree with that, although I do think their plan this offseason was a bad one.

Since Garrett's been here, we've built through the draft, cut down on the expensive FA acquisitions, the defensive scheme as been simplified and they've added talent to the offensive side (too often) to take advantage of the QB we've got right now. The cap is being used to sign our own players once we know they can fit in the scheme. It's pretty straightforward. The OL may look like the most solid part of the process since we hit on all the high picks, but the same process of signing stop-gaps to two year deals and back-filling with draft picks and targeted VFAs we've done across the board.

To the extent things are still sometimes haphazard, we all know where that comes from, and we all know it's not going to change under any coach, so what's the point in expecting it to? The best we can hope for in that regard is to tamp down some of the bigger risks. There is no practical alternative.

And from everything I've seen and heard around the organization that doesn't emanate from our fanbase, the HC is very well respected in that locker room and by team management and by his own staff. The .500 football isn't much different form the .500 football we had under the HoF coach who indirectly preceded him, but we've been one of the winningest franchises (top quartile) under Garrett. Up until last season, anyway.

I think the problem in Dallas is simple. Jerry's a wildcard, and we have fumbled in putting together enough talent on defense. Wasted resources on that side of the ball, took unnecessary risks, had two false starts in getting in a DC who can actually both coach and develop players. In short, not enough good players over there. If we had 3-4 more talented starters on that side of the ball, this team would have been winning most of the NFCE races the last three seasons and would be pushing the Cardinals and the Packers and the Seahawks in those upper reaches of the NFC. As it is, we're struggling to make the playoffs, instead.

I think you overrate Garrett a bit and undervalue the effect he's had on making this team basically a .500 team in his tenure. It's inexcusable that he couldn't manufacture a couple of wins last year even with the QB situation, for example.

The fact he's well respected in the locker room is largely meaningless to me if I see him as a coach that can't get us over the hump, which I don't think he can.

Of course the link here is Jones. I never suggested it wasn't. But you brought up "stable" and the one constant other than Jones the last 5 years has been Garrett. And frankly, he's not a good enough coach IMO to start championing his "stability".
 

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I think you overrate Garrett a bit and undervalue the effect he's had on making this team basically a .500 team in his tenure. It's inexcusable that he couldn't manufacture a couple of wins last year even with the QB situation, for example.

The fact he's well respected in the locker room is largely meaningless to me if I see him as a coach that can't get us over the hump, which I don't think he can.

Of course the link here is Jones. I never suggested it wasn't. But you brought up "stable" and the one constant other than Jones the last 5 years has been Garrett. And frankly, he's not a good enough coach IMO to start championing his "stability".

Meh, I disagree with most posters on the topic of Jason Garrett, so that's ok. For the record, I do think he bungled the DC hire(s), and that he's not the strongest game day coach. I don't love his scheme, either.

But he's exceptional when it comes to bringing stability to this organization, installing a system, running things efficiently, handling the circus, setting consistent and understandable expectations for the players, and working with a very difficult management structure. He's put together a good staff and scouting department, and generally handled well the media circus that comes with Dallas and an owner who like to run around putting holes in the boat while simultaneously making sure the upper decks have the best of everything. Last year's team lost too many games, for sure, but, yeah, I didn't put many of them on the staff at all.
 

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A bit more re: how I looked at last seasons' games: we had a lot of different things conspiring against us--on top of the losses of Dez and Tony. Like the McFadden TD that got called back in Cassel's first game against the Giants, or the stupid pick-six he threw to Hicks that probably cost the Eagles game or the Heath penalty late in the Tampa Game. Even the Saints loss where we lost Dunbar and then Butler as we were putting things together and Weeden had that beautiful throw to Williams on 4th down to tie it before Wilson blew the coverage on Spiller in substitution for Sean Lee (concussion).

I know it gets interpreted as excuses and not as reasons, but when you lose all your offensive playmakers except for Witten and Beasely, or players like Lee go out in key situations in close games, that stuff just adds up.

And sometimes, like in the Saints game, it's not even missing the playmakers as much as it is having players in key positions on the field who haven't worked together. It's not Romo or Weeden, now it's Cassel calling plays on offense. Or Sean Lee goes out with a concussion agains the Saints you have Hitchens calling plays in overtime to a rookie in Wilson who blows the game-losing responsibility. Or not having your key pass rushers on the field early because of suspensions. When Jeremy Mincey is your team leader on defense, you've got some problems.

I know Garrett is the coach and it's his responsibility, so it goes on his record, but I just don't think he's the one causing those losses. We don't really know about the Cassel move, for example, but I'm not sure that trade was entirely on the coaches. I do know Linehan at least sure lobbied for K Moore. The distractions from McClain and Hardy? Who knows for sure. But part of my reasons for cutting the staff some slack is because I have my suspicions about how those decisions go down.
 

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Let's all throw rocks and jeer!

Those stupid PHI OLs. I'm sick of their chips on their shoulders about the DAL OLs. They're no longer even remotely in the same class as our unit. Whatever bad can befall them, should befall them as far as I'm concerned.
 

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I don't think we've really gotten screwed on suspensions.

Maybe Hardy suspension shouldn't have happened considering he was found not guilty and had been suspended the entire year before.

The Miles Austin thing that got us a salary cap penalty was upsetting.
Yeah the Miles Austin thing was completely bogus. You penalize the Cowboys for being smarter than the other teams in the league.
 

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Doesn't seem to be anyone here blaming the Eagles' idiot GM for this players possible 10-game suspension. I wonder if the Philly fans are blaming the GM for drafting a cheater who can't compete without PEDs. Or is it just Jerry Jones who gets blame for player suspensions? Other GMs get a pass. Did Stealers' Kevin Colbert get any blame for Levean Bell and Martavis Bryant suspensions? No, he didn't. Funny how that just happens. I'm sure it is all a coincidence and all the Jerry Haters will have an explanation.
 

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Doesn't seem to be anyone here blaming the Eagles' idiot GM for this players possible 10-game suspension. I wonder if the Philly fans are blaming the GM for drafting a cheater who can't compete without PEDs. Or is it just Jerry Jones who gets blame for player suspensions? Other GMs get a pass. Did Stealers' Kevin Colbert get any blame for Levean Bell and Martavis Bryant suspensions? No, he didn't. Funny how that just happens. I'm sure it is all a coincidence and all the Jerry Haters will have an explanation.

For Philly, there will be hell to pay if they crash and burn this year and Carson shows little or nothing. They'll be without their pick at the top of the draft, and best of all, the draft next year is in Philly.
 

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Anyone who thinks that the league is out to get us isn't paying attention to the rest of the league.
 

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Bradford doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would repeatedly take a beating for a team that clearly doesn't see him in their future (even if he could). Wentz may be on the active roster a lot more than expected.
 
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