It's October and the division is already lost

[CWR]

I think that 13-3 season had us all fooled. Everything just fell into place last year.

I dont think we were fooled so to speak. We have a good team but yeah everything did fall into place last year. This year is the opposite. Our offseason was awful, making headlines for all the wrong reasons. We turned over most of our starting secondary and have missed Sean Lee dearly. On top of that Jaylon is not ready and we didnt get any depth to make up for the high probability of that. We are still a good team but we need things to break right in order to be great. We simply cant close the deal right now. Im not throwing in the towel though because we lost Zeke for awhile. His impact isnt nearly what it was last year. Its clear to me that right now our most indispensable player is Lee.

 

[Chuck 54]

Everything is going right for the Eagles right now. Easy schedule, and when they do play a tough opponent, they've been beaten up, or like Carolina, had the game gift wrapped for them...most of their points coming off turnovers in the red zone for short drives, if you want to call those drives.

Metrics show that all the things going right this year for the Eagles, turnovers, winning close games, etc don't last. Next year they will think all the great things will stay great, but they never do. Injuries, Free agency, tougher schedule, bad bounces....that's the NFL, and history/data indicates the Eagles are not having a normal year.

 

[CWR]

If I hear another, "with Lee we are sitting at 4-1" post I'm gonna scream! What a load of crap. Gurley would have owned him as well. Anyone remember Lee against Denver? The dude is a stud but he's not Ray Lewis!

Im not saying we are 4-1 with Lee but I will say his impact compared to our next man up is drastic. Not having Lee makes this defense so much worse.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Lee wasn't "great". He's one of the better LBs in football. But to say he's a Top 3 LB at this stage is just a bit much. And I said later in that thread that yeah, he'd start for Philly.

Regardless, the point stands. If Sean Lee is the difference between having a good defense or one of the worst in football, then you have bigger problems than Sean Lee. I mean Sean Lee was on the field when Denver torched us. So I don't really buy into this notion that we are back to 13-3 Dallas once Lee and Hitchens are back.

You just in this thread said he’s “good, but old”. Doesnt sound like a ringing endorsement to me. The fact that you even had to think about that is hysterical

Hmmm.

So we have one good, but old LB and maybe one good DT.

Almost there!

Also, once again, no one is saying that with Sean Lee we are a good defense. The point is, hes the leader of our defense who we rely heavily upon. Look what happened to Carolina’s defense last night when they lost Keuchly. The fact that I even have to explain to you how our best defensive player impacts this team is crazy.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I dont think we were fooled so to speak. We have a good team but yeah everything did fall into place last year. This year is the opposite. Our offseason was awful, making headlines for all the wrong reasons. We turned over most of our starting secondary and have missed Sean Lee dearly. On top of that Jaylon is not ready and we didnt get any depth to make up for the high probability of that. We are still a good team but we need things to break right in order to be great. We simply cant close the deal right now. Im not throwing in the towel though because we lost Zeke for awhile. His impact isnt nearly what it was last year. Its clear to me that right now our most indispensable player is Lee.

I think we were a good offensive team last year. The problem is mainly the offensive line on that side of the ball. It would also help if the WR's would actually catch some balls. The defense is bad. It was bad last year but was masked because the offense controlled the ball for so long. And then we got rid of the few good players on that defense. Not to say they were great but compared to the rest of the defensive players on the team they were. And yea all this distraction with Elliott hasn't helped at all. And then you add in some bad coaching decisions and here we are.

 

[xwalker]

Is it fun to be this negative about a sports team? I don’t get the appeal.

 

[robbieruff]

Is it fun to be this negative about a sports team? I don’t get the appeal.

Fandom never promises anyone fun. Just like most things in life don’t. The payoff is often fleeting separated by long intervals of gut-wrenching angst. That’s if you’re a true “fanatic” in my view.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Eagles play their next three games at home against winnable opponents. It's done and they deserve it. They went out and got Jernigan and Darby to add to an already stacked defense. Got Jeffrey on a prove it deal to help out their young QB. Their oline looks like top 3 in the league. Meanwhile we go 13-3 and get fat and happy. Benson Mayowa and Kyle Wilber are getting significant PT on this team. I'm totally disgusted in the front office. How do you not go for the jugular after getting so close last season?

The reality is that although the offense was top notch the defense has needed an overhaul and its in the middle of it. How many good years does Lee have left? We can see how bad this defense is when he isnt playing. He will need to be replaced as well. This is why taking a back at #4 was a bad move when we could have had a great young corner and leader of the defense. In my, when your defense is as bad as our the back becomes the LAST piece to the puzzle.

 

[xwalker]

Byron Jones is a key to many problems on defense. McLay screwed that up. He shouldn't get his option picked up either

Jones has played well.

He has barely played Safety in some games this season. They've had him down against the TE with Woods/Frazier/Awuzie replacing him at Safety for a large amount of the snaps.

 

[dreghorn2]

Think where they'd be if the Paxton Lynch offer had been accepted.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Think where they'd be if the Paxton Lynch offer had been accepted.

Romo would still be QB'ing and getting hurt.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Is it fun to be this negative about a sports team? I don’t get the appeal.

And what is so appealing about turning a blind eye? Are you going to continue to talk roses and cool aid when reality dictates that's not the case?

 

[Sydla]

Think where they'd be if the Paxton Lynch offer had been accepted.

You just blew my mind.

Or what if that crap QB from Michigan State had slid to us in the 4th round and we took him over Prescott? LOL.

 

[Aven8]

Think where they'd be if the Paxton Lynch offer had been accepted.

Or Connor Cook...

In all seriousness I think we could roll with Cooper Rush and never look back if we didn't have Dak. He's a gamer!

 

[Sydla]

Or Connor Cook...

That's the guy. Ewwww.

 

[xwalker]

The reality is that although the offense was top notch the defense has needed an overhaul and its in the middle of it. How many good years does Lee have left? We can see how bad this defense is when he isnt playing. He will need to be replaced as well. This is why taking a back at #4 was a bad move when we could have had a great young corner and leader of the defense. In my, when your defense is as bad as our the back becomes the LAST piece to the puzzle.

I understand your point, but anytime you have a chance to take a near'guaranteed Super Star type player, you should do it.

They passed on LeSean McCoy in 2009 (They had him rated as a 1st round pick) because they had Felix and Barber. Not long afterwards both Felix and Barber fell apart and McCoy was worth more than those two plus that entire draft.

In the upcoming draft they need to find a Super Star type player. One Super Star added to the defense would make everyone better. They have a lot of OK players but need another alpha-dog.

The DL has several good players but they would all be better with one Super Star added. Imagine what DLaw would do if he was the #2 DE instead of #1.

WR is another good example. Butler/TWill would be OK if they had a legit #1 WR but instead they're trying to use TWill like a #1B WR and that's just too much for him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I understand your point, but anytime you have a chance to take a near'guaranteed Super Star type player, you should do it.

They passed on LeSean McCoy in 2009 (They had him rated as a 1st round pick) because they had Felix and Barber. Not long afterwards both Felix and Barber fell apart and McCoy was worth more than those two plus that entire draft.

In the upcoming draft they need to find a Super Star type player. One Super Star added to the defense would make everyone better. They have a lot of OK players but need another alpha-dog.

The DL has several good players but they would all be better with one Super Star added. Imagine what DLaw would do if he was the #2 DE instead of #1.

WR is another good example. Butler/TWill would be OK if they had a legit #1 WR but instead they're trying to use TWill like a #1B WR and that's just too much for him.

There was a superstar type corner right there for us and we passed on him to take Zeke. If you are implying that Zeke is better than the corner then I dont agree.

 

[mcmvp]

Everything is going right for the Eagles right now. Easy schedule, and when they do play a tough opponent, they've been beaten up, or like Carolina, had the game gift wrapped for them...most of their points coming off turnovers in the red zone for short drives, if you want to call those drives.

Metrics show that all the things going right this year for the Eagles, turnovers, winning close games, etc don't last. Next year they will think all the great things will stay great, but they never do. Injuries, Free agency, tougher schedule, bad bounces....that's the NFL, and history/data indicates the Eagles are not having a normal year.

This sounds a lot more like someone rationalizing and seeing what they want to, rather than objectivity. jmo...

 

[xwalker]

There was a superstar type corner right there for us and we passed on him to take Zeke. If you are implying that Zeke is better than the corner then I dont agree.

That player had microfracture surgery in High School. I would not have drafted him there.

He was also much less of a guarantee as a Star Player with near zero INTs in college.

 

[Sydla]

That player had microfracture surgery in High School. I would not have drafted him there.

He was also much less of a guarantee as a Star Player with near zero INTs in college.

This was flawed logic then and continues to be flawed logic now.

And the TB we drafted had red flag character issues coming out of college and we've seen how that's been working out.

We can nitpick each guy all day. I still would have taken Ramsey over Elliott and over the long run, I suspect it will be obvious that we made the wrong choice there because I worry about Elliott's production given usage and the fact he's got off the field issues.

You better hope that Morris and McFadden don't start running the ball well for us.