Its Official: Instant Replay is a Joke

[silverbear]

I have never liked replay and I never will. Not in its current format anyway.

I just don't understand how the zebras could have screwed that call up... the way things turned out, of course, that call was the ball game...

 

[silverbear]

Well Sux for the Jags then HUH? HAHAHA! How do you know they would've even gotten an fg?

Uhhh, the point is, the Skins turned around and got themselves a FG out of the deal, and without those 3 points (which they did not DESERVE), the game doesn't go into overtime, the Jags win it in regulation...

It figures that you Skins fans, who whine about how the refs screwed you after seemingly every game, would try to blow off a pathetically, obviously incorrect call...

Whining about the zebras when you lose, then laughing about them when they help you win, shows what you're really made of...

 

[silverbear]

I don't think that the system itself is a joke. The people who have the opportunity to watch the replays numerous times and still get the call wrong are a different matter.

I truly believe that zebra was intimidated by the crowd... there ain't no way he could have failed to see the play the same as the rest of us did...

 

[silverbear]

We dont get that FG then we go for it on 4th and inches instead of kicking the FG and we dont even need to go into overtime.

Or you get stopped when you go for it...

It really is sad, the way you guys try to act like that play didn't have any effect on the game... but you don't seem to be disputing that the call was BLOWN, do you??

And I'll just bet that over the last coupla years, you've been one of the Skins homers who has screamed the loudest about how the refs have "screwed" the Skins with this call or that call... which makes you a freakin' hypocrite...

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

I truly believe that zebra was intimidated by the crowd... there ain't no way he could have failed to see the play the same as the rest of us did...

theres nothing he could have done about. You cant see the ball, you cant make the call. its that simple. If you look at the replay, the first time you see the ball is when it is actually ripped out. By rule, he is not aloud to make the overturn then, because it is not "conclusive".

Now, if they would have gotten the call right on the field in the first place, then, we wouldnt have to have this disucussion right now

 

[baralufficus]

As a Skins fan ...Yeah that was a blown call....But that does not mean we would have lost ....Who is to say the playcalling would have been the same ...Who is to say the score would have even been what it turned out to be ...Who is to say the Skins would not have INT the very next play and returned it for a TD ???....Who is to say the Skins would not have went for it on 4th and inches had we been down by 7 ???....Who is to say we even convert on 4th down ....

This whole conversation is a joke , and I can't wait to see the same thing happen to the Boys, and then see what you have to say ...

Oh BTW , the call when Betts dove for the 1st down but was called down was bullcrap IMO ....But it is what it is , and you have to live with it ...

Bara~

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

After downloading the game and re-watching that play over and over and over I realized that there's a VERY minimal chance that the ball does "moving" enough to call it a fumble regardless of the view HOWEVER it sure is nice to have one go our way.......

I still am miffed about the PI call in the boys game 2 years back.......total BS.....it was o-PI all the way......lol

 

[Jake0]

As a Skins fan ...Yeah that was a blown call....But that does not mean we would have lost ....Who is to say the playcalling would have been the same ...Who is to say the score would have even been what it turned out to be ...Who is to say the Skins would not have INT the very next play and returned it for a TD ???....Who is to say the Skins would not have went for it on 4th and inches had we been down by 7 ???....Who is to say we even convert on 4th down ....

This whole conversation is a joke , and I can't wait to see the same thing happen to the Boys, and then see what you have to say ...

Oh BTW , the call when Betts dove for the 1st down but was called down was bullcrap IMO ....But it is what it is , and you have to live with it ...

Bara~

I didn't get to see much of that game but I did get to see that play and once Peterson went head up with Betts, his knee went straight to the ground thus ruling him down. After that knee hit he fell for another yard or so, but the spot was right cause of that knee, don't know how you can miss that.

 

[East Popcorn St]

Sorry, but Taurean Henderson was IN the end zone on the one play in question.

It is certainly less than clear as to whether Henderson was actually down prior to stretching the ball over the plane (so, "IN the end zone"? Not so much). I can see claiming "no evidence to overturn" there, but that's far from the only questionable call late in that game. A few plays earlier the ref signaled touchdown on a pass that wasn't even close to being caught in bounds (which was overturned, but then it was such a lousy call that to not do so would have been . . . well, shall we say, Pac-10-ish, of the refs).

All of which is ultimately neither here nor there, because Taco Tech should have spent the last few ticks in that game watching OU run out the clock. On the replay of the fourth down completion to Amendola (I think it was he), you can clearly see that he's at least a yard short of the marker, but the refs give him what could only be described as an extremely generous spot, allowing the continuation of Tech's "miraculous comeback."

Bottom line-- just as was the case in Eugene-- it wasn't just one crappy call, it was an accumulation of timely and suspicious calls that at the least have to make an impartial observer wonder what the %$&@ was going on.

As to replay in general-- at any level-- my feeling is that no matter how disgusting it may seem to get a bad call wrong even after review, I'll take it every time over no review. To ditch it altogether is like deciding that due process is a waste of time because a couple of criminals go free or innocents wind up convicted of crimes they didn't commit. Yeah, it's a grave injustice, but it would be even worse with no recourse to a trial, fair or otherwise.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Gibbs' whining has earned him the right to get bad calls. In the Texans game there was the phantom personal foul call that negated the Texans' fumble return for a touchdown which would have put the game within one score with eight minutes left. In this game, there was this obvious non-fumble because his knee was down. Everyone except homer Commanders fans think this was a blown call. I'm sure Gibbs sent both into the NFL office immediately after both games since he's such a stickler for justice. Wait. That only occurs when his team loses.

 

[Om]

And it officially costs Jacksonville a win.

And this is officially where a legitimate ***** thread about replay's inadequacies jumped the shark.

 

[riggo]

And it officially costs Jacksonville a win.

hmmm.

i could have sworn i just read something about skins homers and how ******** they are. good thing there are no such fans here. no, sir!

 

[ghst187]

i didn't start the thread to gripe about a call that helped Wash win or Jax lose....merely to complain...AGAIN...about how instant replay once again makes the incorrect call, influences the outcome of a game, and seems to be an overall waste of time and some team's timeouts.
Maybe its a bigger problem, maybe the officials need to also get better and officiate, and get paid, year round. Perhaps that would help.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

And this is officially where a legitimate ***** thread about replay's inadequacies jumped the shark.

Let's not bring Fonzie into this please. :

 

[HighTechDave]

here is my take on officials specifically, not replay....

THE OFFICIALS ARE TOO OLD!!!!!!

they physically and mentally cannot react and process information as quick as a younger person. put a playstation in front of both, and see what happens.

I know, I'll get flamed, but this is coming from a 40something white guy who believes the officials age limit should be 40.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Maybe its a bigger problem, maybe the officials need to also get better and officiate, and get paid, year round. Perhaps that would help.

What are the benefits of having officials year-round ?

And I realize seemingly you arent just talking about the Commanders, but in that game with the replays they had, there wasnt conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, regardless of what the official may have thought. I thought he was down, watching the replay you simply couldnt see the ball.

Thats the way the ball bounces sometimes, without replay there would be an even bigger margin of error, IMO.

 

[superpunk]

Wonder if Joe Gibbs will send that play into the league?

He's incredibly concerned about helping the league get things right. He's only trying to help. If he's not a complete whiny loser, and had any integrity, and wasn't a hypocrite, he would send that play in, because it was CLEARLY the wrong call.

But we know that's not happening. Because he is not a good sport. He does not have integrity, and he IS NOT doing it for the good of the sport, Skins fans.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

here is my take on officials specifically, not replay....

THE OFFICIALS ARE TOO OLD!!!!!!

they physically and mentally cannot react and process information as quick as a younger person. put a playstation in front of both, and see what happens.

I know, I'll get flamed, but this is coming from a 40something white guy who believes the officials age limit should be 40.

The officials are actually in pretty good shape. And the requirements for being an NFL official are pretty stringent. Its not like any Joe Blow off the streets can become an NFL official.

You think because they are old they are dimwitted ? or somehow mentally challenged ?

Come on man.

 

[PiLfan]

And it officially costs Jacksonville a win.

since we're piling on here, let me just add a little morsel for thought:



what was the score before the "fumble"? 17-10



what was the score after the "fumble"? 17-10


and, obtw, the skins were still about 20-25 yards out of fg range (well, Hall's range anyways).


so exactly how this one play "cost Jacksonville the game", when they had opportunities on that same drive, to say nothing of the remaining 32 minutes left in regulation, to stop the skins offense and put a fork in them (but ended up getting abused to the tune of 481 yards instead) is alluding my comprehension...much like Moss alluded the jags secondary....hey, i think he just scored again.

 

[HighTechDave]

The officials are actually in pretty good shape. And the requirements for being an NFL official are pretty stringent. Its not like any Joe Blow off the streets can become an NFL official.

You think because they are old they are dimwitted ? or somehow mentally challenged ?

Come on man.

read the post again.

their top priority is senority. you can not tell me those old farts can process info faster than a younger person. there is no way, period