Its quite clear the Cowboys dont see running the ball

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This franchise does not hold a monopoly on signing cut players. The players have a say in the matter. What if Jackson choose another team like Seattle as his first option? Such a decision blows your clairvoyance completely out of the water.

Dallas already came out quickly and said they have no interest in signing Jackson are they are perfectly happy with what they have. Which is the bases for my discomfort. Have you read something different?

I applaud Seattle for jumping to sign a good veteran RB when they see a gift. Even when they have a solid backfield already. It shows me they value the RB position more than the Cowboys do. The #1 running team in football signed him.
 

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You are not correcting anything pal. You are simply stating your own opinion. Which you are entitled to.

If you love the way they are handling the RB situation here, more power to you. Ignorance is truly bliss. I do NOT.
That's total dodging. You do it well. Stop fabricating information to support your opinion. It is as simple as that.
 

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Would you being asking Jackson if Murray was still here?

I would take Jackson over Dunbar and MCfragile. Now if Murray is still here, there wouldnt be such a need. So I probably wouldnt be too taken back if they didnt sign him.
 

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Could be true.

Garrett was averse to running the ball before last season and Linehan was as well at just about every stop. Sometimes people will never give up those old habits.

But, I do see this team in a bit of a pickle with regards to Murray. He's had injury issues throughout his career and just logged in 392 carries (not including playoffs). You still had to pay Dez and I think he's just a better investment in terms of impacting the team. And we had larger issues on defense than we have had at finding a replacement for Murray.

As a runner, Peterson is one of the all time greats. But, the Vikings weren't going to give him away for free and he's 30 years old. Plus, he's a mediocre blitz pickup and threat as a receiver. The cost and his age made it prohibitive, so you have to look elsewhere.

The tailbacks worth taking at our spot in the draft were Gurley (coming off an injury) and Melvin Gordon and both were already gone. And we still need defensive help, particularly in the secondary where Carr is aging and way overpaid, Claiborne has sucked since his 2nd season, Sterling Moore was gone and O-Scan (at the time) was getting long in the tooth. Oh, and we still needed pass rush help and Randy Gregory who was a legit top-5 talent fell into our laps in the 2nd round.

So do you really go after a premium tailback or do you find the best players you can get at the best price and take your chances behind your great O-Line and with McFadden (who still has the explosiveness and is a very good blitz pickup and receiving tailback), Randle (who looked very good last year) and Dunbar to help spell them?

Personally, I think you go with what the team did. I think it addresses more of our issues at a fraction of the price and we don't mortgage our future.








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That's troll talk.

There is a difference between stating an opinion based on what someone thinks and stating an opinion claiming it is based on what an organization or coach or player thinks. You are not a mind reader. Allow your threads and posts to reflect that fact.

LOL.........I never said I can read their minds. Try reading my original post while not crying.

The only one trolling and ranting here is you. Get a hold of yourself.
 

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That's total dodging. You do it well. Stop fabricating information to support your opinion. It is as simple as that.

Dont tell me what to do or think. If you dont like it, take a hike. Im having rational conversations with many here. Go cry yourself to sleep.
 

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LOL.........I never said I can read their minds. Try reading my original post while not crying.

The only one trolling and ranting here is you. Get a hold of yourself.
You're trolling big time. You stated:
Its quite clear the Cowboys dont see running the ball as important as they did last year.
The front office could project similar results with the roster moves it has made this offseason. The only way you can support your own statement is to know what they are actually thinking.
 

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Could be true.

Garrett was averse to running the ball before last season and Linehan was as well at just about every stop. Sometimes people will never give up those old habits.

But, I do see this team in a bit of a pickle with regards to Murray. He's had injury issues throughout his career and just logged in 392 carries (not including playoffs). You still had to pay Dez and I think he's just a better investment in terms of impacting the team. And we had larger issues on defense than we have had at finding a replacement for Murray.

As a runner, Peterson is one of the all time greats. But, the Vikings weren't going to give him away for free and he's 30 years old. Plus, he's a mediocre blitz pickup and threat as a receiver. The cost and his age made it prohibitive, so you have to look elsewhere.

The tailbacks worth taking at our spot in the draft were Gurley (coming off an injury) and Melvin Gordon and both were already gone. And we still need defensive help, particularly in the secondary where Carr is aging and way overpaid, Claiborne has sucked since his 2nd season, Sterling Moore was gone and O-Scan (at the time) was getting long in the tooth. Oh, and we still needed pass rush help and Randy Gregory who was a legit top-5 talent fell into our laps in the 2nd round.

So do you really go after a premium tailback or do you find the best players you can get at the best price and take your chances behind your great O-Line and with McFadden (who still has the explosiveness and is a very good blitz pickup and receiving tailback), Randle (who looked very good last year) and Dunbar to help spell them?

Personally, I think you go with what the team did. I think it addresses more of our issues at a fraction of the price and we don't mortgage our future.








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I definitely wanted them to pass on Murray. But I think you definitely try to get the best back you can for good price. There were some back in FA that went around the 3-5 million dollar range. The best scenario would have been a top rookie. Best of both worlds.
 

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I would take Jackson over Dunbar and MCfragile. Now if Murray is still here, there wouldnt be such a need. So I probably wouldnt be too taken back if they didnt sign him.

And that is the problem I have with this line of thinking. You call McFadden McFragile and totally ignore the injury history of Murray. McFadden is no more likely to miss a game this year than Murray would have been. They have both had about the same amount of games missed. I think McFadden has played in 75% of eligible games and Murray 80%, give or take. Murray hadn't played a full season in the last 6 years or so College and Pros until last year, which was his contract year. If you factor in the amount of wear and tear on Murray last year, his history of not playing a full season, and it not being a contract year, I would say he was MORE likely to miss games than McFadden will be this year. I liked what Murray did last year. But I didn't shed a tear when they let him walk either. As I have said, he was a good back, not a GREAT back and can be replaced.
 

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Dont tell me what to do or think. If you dont like it, take a hike. Im having rational conversations with many here. Go cry yourself to sleep.
Get a grip dude. I was simply telling you what you are doing that is creating the responses you are intentionally attracting. I will do so again. I will remain here just like you unless a moderator states otherwise. Your "rational conversations" are spartan for lack of a better word. And your "order" lacks merit or influence.
 

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You're trolling big time. You stated:
The front office could project similar results with the roster moves it has made this offseason. The only way you can support your own statement is to know what they are actually thinking.

LOL..........yah, well next time read the entire post before you start balling your eyes out. Here was the other part you missed:

Unless they REALLY think these backs can be a dominant committee. Which I see as foolish

This comment CLEARLY shows that I DONT know what they are thinking. That it could be one way or the another.

:muttley:


 

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You're trolling big time. You stated:
The front office could project similar results with the roster moves it has made this offseason. The only way you can support your own statement is to know what they are actually thinking.

yah, they COULD project similar results. And my comment was quite clear that IF that is what they are doing, I view that as foolish.

Are you satisfied with the way they have handled the RB situation this off season or not?
 

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And that is the problem I have with this line of thinking. You call McFadden McFragile and totally ignore the injury history of Murray. McFadden is no more likely to miss a game this year than Murray would have been. They have both had about the same amount of games missed. I think McFadden has played in 75% of eligible games and Murray 80%, give or take. Murray hadn't played a full season in the last 6 years or so College and Pros until last year, which was his contract year. If you factor in the amount of wear and tear on Murray last year, his history of not playing a full season, and it not being a contract year, I would say he was MORE likely to miss games than McFadden will be this year. I liked what Murray did last year. But I didn't shed a tear when they let him walk either. As I have said, he was a good back, not a GREAT back and can be replaced.


Injury history of Murray? I just spent an entire week arguing with some guys on another thread that Murray is an injury prone back. You got the wrong guy.
 

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LOL..........yah, well next time read the entire post before you start balling your eyes out. Here was the other part you missed:

Unless they REALLY think these backs can be a dominant committee. Which I see as foolish

This comment CLEARLY shows that I DONT know what they are thinking. That it could be one way or the another.
:muttley:
Nope. Your counterpoint is embedded to deflect the obvious. There is zero need to make either statement about "what they think."
 

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yah, they COULD project similar results. And my comment was quite clear that IF that is what they are doing, I view that as foolish.

Are you satisfied with the way they have handled the RB situation this off season or not?
Satisfaction is irrelevant. Logic is the only necessity. Yakuza Rich's post in your thread quantifies my thoughts on the matter very well.
 

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Get a grip dude. I was simply telling you what you are doing that is creating the responses you are intentionally attracting. I will do so again. I will remain here just like you unless a moderator states otherwise. Your "rational conversations" are spartan for lack of a better word. And your "order" lacks merit or influence.

You can remain wherever you like. However, its quite clear that you cant handle it and your comprehension skills are wanting.

My point was quite clear. That I dont like the way they have handled the RB's this off season. Either you do or you dont.

If you are satisfied, Im happy for you.
 

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Nope. Your counterpoint is embedded to deflect the obvious. There is zero need to make either statement about "what they think."

LOL............I see, so now you are projecting that you know what I was thinking and doing?

So who is the real troll?

Ill tell you what. Go cry yourself to sleep and you will feel better in the morning.
 
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Satisfaction is irrelevant. Logic is the only necessity. Yakuza Rich's post in your thread quantifies my thoughts on the matter very well.

Actually you are irrelevant. LOL

I will no longer respond to your troll posts.
 
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