Its quite clear the Cowboys dont see running the ball

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If you are going to be a power running team like last year, then you dont go into the season with these three backs ONLY and pass on a guy like Fred Jackson.

And I agree they really think these 3 guys can get the job done. I just think that is foolish.

Fred Jackson is a power back? :huh:

And is the power running game a product of the back or the offensive line?
 

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From your hit and run style I see you are trolling again.

Off to the rant zone with this thread and I suggest you stop trolling this site.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Its a simple thread about the running game. Which happens to be the hottest topic of the year.
 

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I do, too. It just seems like the next most likely topic to beat to death once we've jellied the horse-corpse of this running back debate.

Some of us werent as concerned about the current backs because we figured they would obviously add a veteran at cut downs to sure things up. When they wind up passing on a guy like Jackosn without even giving it a second thought, that really concerns me.

So they either DONT value the running game like they did before, or they are total fools for thinking they can get the same out of these 3 backs that they did with Murray.

Do I think the running game will collapse, absolutely not. Do I think it will be a top 10 RG, yes. But if they think that they are gong to get the same production like they did last year, I think they are fooling themselves. And why pass on a perfectly good veteran?

Im quite sure that everyone I have spoken to on this site is at least a little mystified by their course of action with the backs this year.
 

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Except they have said the exact opposite all offseason.

Also I love revisionist history. People dismayed at the state of the run game surely didn't think coming into last year we were in for a historic season and Murray was the next Jim Brown.

We will run the ball early, often and successfully.

Unless they REALLY think these backs can be a dominant committee. Which I see as foolish. No way they can know that based on the history of these backs.
 

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But thats not what you said. At no point did any of those words come out, or was either of those statements referenced in any sort of way.

You said that they were going to pass the ball to the backs more and run less. Did you not read the part where I said it looks like they are going to lean more on the passing game then the run?
 

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I have no idea what you are talking about. Its a simple thread about the running game. Which happens to be the hottest topic of the year.
It is nothing of the sort, exactly as you intended. First, you claim the front office placed lower importance on the running game.

Wrong.

Second, you claim that your first statement validates the front office's intention on weighing more heavily on the passing scheme.

Wrong.

Third, you claim hoarding running backs would validate your first statement.

Wrong.

Fourth, you insinuate that Fred Jackson was solely the Dallas' front office option to sign and add to its roster.

Wrong.

Only your second paragraph of the OP reveals your true thoughts on the topic.
 

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I've seen comments like this all off season. Foolish, stupid, dumb and idiotic to name a few. All this coming from Internet Monday morning fantasy GM's. Well I'll admit I might question some moves, but I know for a fact that they have more experience, more data and are much more qualified to run a professional football team then ANYONE posting on this site.

So I will trust their judgement over mine or anyone else on The Zone to make these decisions. To do so otherwise would be stupid, dumb, idiotic and do I dare say, well foolish.

LOL..........so everyone here that has an opinion about the Cowboys is an idiot because the cowboys brass knows better eh? Well I guess we should all shut up then and just trust in the boyz eh? Might as well just shut down the site then. LOL

:huh:
 

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Some of us werent as concerned about the current backs because we figured they would obviously add a veteran at cut downs to sure things up. When they wind up passing on a guy like Jackosn without even giving it a second thought, that really concerns me.

So they either DONT value the running game like they did before, or they are total fools for thinking they can get the same out of these 3 backs that they did with Murray.

Do I think the running game will collapse, absolutely not. Do I think it will be a top 10 RG, yes. But if they think that they are gong to get the same production like they did last year, I think they are fooling themselves. And why pass on a perfectly good veteran?

Im quite sure that everyone I have spoken to on this site is at least a little mystified by their course of action with the backs this year.

It's completely consistent with everything they've said about RBs all along. There's no mystery. They like their running game just fine and think it will be effective.

As long as they can pass protect effectively, they're right.
 

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It is nothing of the sort, exactly as you intended. First, you claim the front office placed lower importance on the running game.

Wrong.

Second, you claim that your first statement validates the front office's intention on weighing more heavily on the passing scheme.

Wrong.

Third, you claim hoarding running backs would validate your first statement.

Wrong.

Fourth, you insinuate that Fred Jackson was solely the Dallas' front office option to sign and add to its roster.

Wrong.

Only your second paragraph reveals your true thoughts on the topic.

LOL.............its a simple thread buddy, try not to get all tied up in a wad. Do you want some tissues?

I dont happen to approve of the way they are handling the RB's this offseason. Is that ok with you? :thumbdown:
 

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Unless they REALLY think these backs can be a dominant committee. Which I see as foolish. No way they can know that based on the history of these backs.

Why do you think it's foolish though? Because of the injury history of McFadden? Because you have no faith in Randle? Because you don't think our OL is good enough to do it? I find it funny that alot of folks hold the injury history of McFadden against him but not the injury history of Murray. I think Murray is a good back. I do not think he is a great back. I do think he will be missed in some aspects, mostly his leadership. On the field, I think Randle and McFadden can replace him and the yards he got. Not sure what role if any Dunbar will have and I personally would like to see that spot upgraded with a different style of runner. We don't need a rushing leader or a back that gets 390 carries and 1800 yards to be a dominate running game.
 

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It's completely consistent with everything they've said about RBs all along. There's no mystery. They like their running game just fine and think it will be effective.

As long as they can pass protect effectively, they're right.

I have gone on record as defending the brass against those that think the running game will collapse. I dont think it will, even with these backs. But to pass up on a gift like Jackson is foolish in my opinion. So either they think just like you, which is that as long as the pass game is fine we will be good, or they REALLY think these 3 backs are going to give us the same run game we had last year. IN that case I think they are fools.

Kabeesh!!!!
 

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LOL.............its a simple thread buddy, try not to get all tied up in a wad. Do you want some tissues?

I dont happen to approve of the way they are handling the RB's this offseason. Is that ok with you? :thumbdown:
If you state that your thought processes have nothing to do with how the franchise handles its affairs, you will probably not face as many posters correcting your insinuations or base incorrections in your threads. I doubt that you want that however.
 

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Why do you think it's foolish though? Because of the injury history of McFadden? Because you have no faith in Randle? Because you don't think our OL is good enough to do it? I find it funny that alot of folks hold the injury history of McFadden against him but not the injury history of Murray. I think Murray is a good back. I do not think he is a great back. I do think he will be missed in some aspects, mostly his leadership. On the field, I think Randle and McFadden can replace him and the yards he got. Not sure what role if any Dunbar will have and I personally would like to see that spot upgraded with a different style of runner. We don't need a rushing leader or a back that gets 390 carries and 1800 yards to be a dominate running game.

I like Randle, but I do question the drop off in short yardage and goal line situations that Murray was great at. I also see McFragile and Dunbar as injury prone. So I was hoping for a quality veteran that could carry the load in spurts if need be or be that short yardage beast.
 

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I have gone on record as defending the brass against those that think the running game will collapse. I dont think it will, even with these backs. But to pass up on a gift like Jackson is foolish in my opinion. So either they think just like you, which is that as long as the pass game is fine we will be good, or they REALLY think these 3 backs are going to give us the same run game we had last year. IN that case I think they are fools.

Kabeesh!!!!

Not sure what you want me to say. I told you in the last rehash of this topic that the team's actions were clear. They really do like their backs, and they really do think the offense is going to be effective with this current group of players. If they add a young back, it's going to be to strengthen the position depth and not to be a starter. That's because the front office understands what wins football games in the NFL right now and what does not.
 

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I have gone on record as defending the brass against those that think the running game will collapse. I dont think it will, even with these backs. But to pass up on a gift like Jackson is foolish in my opinion. So either they think just like you, which is that as long as the pass game is fine we will be good, or they REALLY think these 3 backs are going to give us the same run game we had last year. IN that case I think they are fools.

Kabeesh!!!!
This franchise does not hold a monopoly on signing cut players. The players have a say in the matter. What if Jackson choose another team like Seattle as his first option? Such a decision blows your clairvoyance completely out of the water.
 

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I like Randle, but I do question the drop off in short yardage and goal line situations that Murray was great at. I also see McFragile and Dunbar as injury prone. So I was hoping for a quality veteran that could carry the load in spurts if need be or be that short yardage beast.

Would you being asking Jackson if Murray was still here?
 

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If you state that your thought processes have nothing to do with how the franchise handles its affairs, you will probably not face as many posters correcting your insinuations or base incorrections in your threads. I doubt that you want that however.

Im not too worried about it. If you post any thread on this site that is negative in any way you get people coming out over exaggerating and hammering you.

Im simply stating my opinion. If that erks the cry babies, I cant be worried about that. I would think there would be a lot of other Cowboys fans that are not totally happy with what they are doing with the backs here.

I think the run game will be very good again because the line is great and I believe Randle has skills. But to pass up on good veterans that are better than what we have here is mind boggling to me.
 

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If you state that your thought processes have nothing to do with how the franchise handles its affairs, you will probably not face as many posters correcting your insinuations or base incorrections in your threads. I doubt that you want that however.

You are not correcting anything pal. You are simply stating your own opinion. Which you are entitled to.

If you love the way they are handling the RB situation here, more power to you. Ignorance is truly bliss. I do NOT.
 

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Im not too worried about it. If you post any thread on this site that is negative in any way you get people coming out over exaggerating and hammering you.

Im simply stating my opinion. If that erks the cry babies, I cant be worried about that. I would think there would be a lot of other Cowboys fans that are not totally happy with what they are doing with the backs here.

I think the run game will be very good again because the line is great and I believe Randle has skills. But to pass up on good veterans that are better than what we have here is mind boggling to me.
That's troll talk.

There is a difference between stating an opinion based on what someone thinks and stating an opinion claiming it is based on what an organization or coach or player thinks. You are not a mind reader. Allow your threads and posts to reflect that fact.
 
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