It's Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan again. Idiot Texans.

[Da Hammer]

He wasnt even the best player in college football last year

Here we would have another big argument so I'll just leave it at both Vince and Bush had fantastic years

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Houston NEEDED Bush or Young. They needed someone for the fans to get excited about. Instead, they will have a half full stadium again and they will continue to pelt the owners and management with cups during the games.

Bush would have been the better pick. Even if they had a bad line this year, that can change...but they will not get another chance for player on the same level as Bush or young again.

You think Vince Young steps in behind that OL and tears it up. No offense, I know you're a UT homer, but VY will take at least 4 years to begin to trully excell, if he ever does. I dont see him coming in and being able to break down a NFL defense.

 

[PJCOWBOYS]

Reggie is Jordan now? LOL! That is the funniest thing I have EVER heard! LOL!

No Bush, no Young? The Cowboys just gained thousands of new fans from Houston.

 

[CowboyWay]

Not drafting a player because the line stinks is a terrible reason to skip out on the best talent available. You assume the line will eventually be there. Not knocking Mario Williams, though, because I've seen his impact while watching all the Lawson videos. Makes me very afraid to take a chance on Lawson because he seems to benefit so much from that pass rush on the other side.

Why in the world would you assume the line will be there? It has never been there. Whats it been 4 years now that team has been around. THey have had the worst line in the NFL for 4 years straight. Why would you assume "It would be there".

They made the right pick. Just because it isn't sexy doesn't mean it wasn't the right pick.

 

[theogt]

Why in the world would you assume the line will be there? It has never been there. Whats it been 4 years now that team has been around. THey have had the worst line in the NFL for 4 years straight. Why would you assume "It would be there".

They made the right pick. Just because it isn't sexy doesn't mean it wasn't the right pick.

Kubiak.

 

[gbrittain]

Why in the world would you assume the line will be there? It has never been there. Whats it been 4 years now that team has been around. THey have had the worst line in the NFL for 4 years straight. Why would you assume "It would be there".

They made the right pick. Just because it isn't sexy doesn't mean it wasn't the right pick.

We have not been to the Superbowl in 10 years, I guess we should assume we are not going back.

The point the poster was making is valid.

 

[CowboyWay]

I'll put it this way. I'd rather face the Texans with Mario Williams than Reggie Bush.

PPPHHHHHTTTTT. No way. We face Reggie Bush twice a year already. His name is Micheal Westbrook. Same exact player. Bush needs space to create, and so does westbrook. Neither can run between the tackles, and Bush has never even carried a full load in college.

He played ball behind the best line in college football. Look at Lendale Whites stats too. Both are very impressive. I'm giving the credit to USC's offensive line.

So back to your statement. You'd rather put Pettiti on Mario Williams than have the deal with a runningback coming out of the backfield for a dump pass? No way.

 

[theogt]

PPPHHHHHTTTTT. No way. We face Reggie Bush twice a year already. His name is Micheal Westbrook. Same exact player. Bush needs space to create, and so does westbrook. Neither can run between the tackles, and Bush has never even carried a full load in college.

He played ball behind the best line in college football. Look at Lendale Whites stats too. Both are very impressive. I'm giving the credit to USC's offensive line.

So back to your statement. You'd rather put Pettiti on Mario Williams than have the deal with a runningback coming out of the backfield for a dump pass? No way.

If Reggie Bush = Westbrook he wouldn't have been the consensus #1 pick up until 5 hours ago.

 

[CowboyWay]

No doubt

Vince Young's college game was based around being a better athlete than every defender on the field 99% of the time. That wont be the case in the NFL.

Mario Williams is not only a great athlete, but remarkably strong and big and has great pass rushing moves.

Absolutely 100% agree !!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboyWay]

If Reggie Bush = Westbrook he wouldn't have been the consensus #1 pick up until 5 hours ago.

Who's consensus? Ours? Please. Nobody know what any of these GM's are thinking about any player. We all like to play jr GM around here cause its fun, but how many of us had Demarcus Ware on top of our boards last year? I had 4 different sources (magazines, websites) that had him as the 11th best DE in last years draft. And we take him with what the 11th pick?

My point is who says Bush is the consenses #1 pick? It all depends on need.

 

[theogt]

Who's consensus? Ours? Please. Nobody know what any of these GM's are thinking about any player. We all like to play jr GM around here cause its fun, but how many of us had Demarcus Ware on top of our boards last year? I had 4 different sources (magazines, websites) that had him as the 11th best DE in last years draft. And we take him with what the 11th pick?

My point is who says Bush is the consenses #1 pick? It all depends on need.

If he was't the consensus #1 pick, this story wouldn't have drawn the attention it has. You really have no chance of winning this argument.

By the way, I had a 69 SS up until a few years ago.

 

[CowboyWay]

We have not been to the Superbowl in 10 years, I guess we should assume we are not going back.

The point the poster was making is valid.

No its not valid. It takes a long time for an offensive line to gel, it doesn't happen in just one season. So how long are you going to beat Reggie up running through that line while your "working" on getting the line fixed? You're gonna pay a guy 50 million dollors and hope you can "put a line together".

C'mon man, thats just not reasonable at all. Reggie would not have helped that team anywhere near what Mario can

 

[CowboyWay]

If he was't the consensus #1 pick, this story wouldn't have drawn the attention it has. You really have no chance of winning this argument.

By the way, I had a 69 SS up until a few years ago.

Its gonna draw alot of attention because it is a big story. Look whats happenned to reggie lately. heisman, parents pretty new house, and was supposed to be the best in college. All I'm saying is I don't think even if Reggie turns out to be the stud we think he will be, that o line of houstons will waste his talents.

Now onto more pressing matters............Why'd you sell the SS hman???? Tell me about it.

 

[gbrittain]

No its not valid. It takes a long time for an offensive line to gel, it doesn't happen in just one season. So how long are you going to beat Reggie up running through that line while your "working" on getting the line fixed? You're gonna pay a guy 50 million dollors and hope you can "put a line together".

C'mon man, thats just not reasonable at all. Reggie would not have helped that team anywhere near what Mario can

The Texans O Line was known for horrible pass protection not run blocking, if you dont believe me take a look at Domanick Davis numbers last year.

Plus like someone already mentioned, if GMs thought like you did Dallas would have selected all everything Tony Mandarich and not Troy Aikman.

 

[theogt]

Its gonna draw alot of attention because it is a big story. Look whats happenned to reggie lately. heisman, parents pretty new house, and was supposed to be the best in college. All I'm saying is I don't think even if Reggie turns out to be the stud we think he will be, that o line of houstons will waste his talents.

Now onto more pressing matters............Why'd you sell the SS hman???? Tell me about it.

It was actually my first car. I quickly discovered that driving without an A/C in Texas isn't very cool no matter what kind of car you're in. I kept it for a while but I just didn't have the storage or time to keep it up. I'm sure I'll get another one in the future.

 

[CowboyWay]

The Texans O Line was known for horrible pass protection not run blocking, if you dont believe me take a look at Domanick Davis numbers last year.

Plus like someone already mentioned, if GMs thought like you did Dallas would have selected all everything Tony Mandarich and not Troy Aikman.

You could be right there because their run blocking doesn't seem to be horrendous, but I still believe in Defense first. Mario will make everyone else better on that defense. The other Dlineman, and definetely the secondary. I'm not so sure I can say the same thing about bush. He just scares the hell out of me because of the team he was on and the Pac 10 being WEAK.

I certainly could be wrong, he just scares me with the #1 pick

Oh, no I was on the troy bandwagaon, not Mandarich's

 

[btcutter]

It was the right pick. They wised up and drafted for need, not want.

Bush is good, but they already have a good RB, and while David Carr sucks, drafting Vince Young wont help them considering that offensive line they have and Young's inability to run away from NFL defenders like he could in college.

Agreed. A top DE is extremely difficulty to obtain (ask us, we would know). A player like Peppers, White, Bruce have impact that changes a game as much as a RB. RB's are much easier to replace and this yr Texans will probably get a good one at top of 2nd round.

 

[gbrittain]

You could be right there because their run blocking doesn't seem to be horrendous, but I still believe in Defense first. Mario will make everyone else better on that defense. The other Dlineman, and definetely the secondary. I'm not so sure I can say the same thing about bush. He just scares the hell out of me because of the team he was on and the Pac 10 being WEAK.

I certainly could be wrong, he just scares me with the #1 pick

Oh, no I was on the troy bandwagaon, not Mandarich's

BTW I am not exactly sold un Reggie myself. I just did not agree with your reasoning, I know it seams petty, but heck it is almost midnight and I have nothing better to do!

I dont think Houston made a bad decision, I just think a miss on Reggie or Vince will be much more forgiveable than a miss on Mario.

 

[CowboyWay]

It was actually my first car. I quickly discovered that driving without an A/C in Texas isn't very cool no matter what kind of car you're in. I kept it for a while but I just didn't have the storage or time to keep it up. I'm sure I'll get another one in the future.

Oh yeah, you can't use it as a daily driver. It would beat you down, especially with no AC. No way, I wouldn't even try it. The prices are skyrocketing so I wouldn't wait too long if you wanted another one. I bought this one about 6 months ago, numbers matching z-28. I always wanted one, so I just said F-it and pulled the trigger on it.

If I had it all over to do again though, I wouldn't go for that numbers matching crap. It really limits what you can "tweak" or change with the car, thereby losing some of its value.

I shoulda just bought a 69, good paint, good body, and a MONSTER motor. Something I could really just hammer and not have to worry about the investment side.

 

[theogt]

Oh yeah, you can't use it as a daily driver. It would beat you down, especially with no AC. No way, I wouldn't even try it. The prices are skyrocketing so I wouldn't wait too long if you wanted another one. I bought this one about 6 months ago, numbers matching z-28. I always wanted one, so I just said F-it and pulled the trigger on it.

If I had it all over to do again though, I wouldn't go for that numbers matching crap. It really limits what you can "tweak" or change with the car, thereby losing some of its value.

I shoulda just bought a 69, good paint, good body, and a MONSTER motor. Something I could really just hammer and not have to worry about the investment side.

Well I was 16 at the time. My dad tried to warn me. Prices are going up? I wonder why. My next will be a "numbers match" type. The one I had wasn't stock by any means. It was a mean SOB.