It's time to stop neglecting the 1 tech

[Nightman]

I thought we could get Nick Fairley fairly cheap after an up and down year in STL.

He almost lost too much weight since getting benched by DET in 2014. He was down to 278 last year after turning his diet around.

He still might make a cheap rotational piece.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't care how much improvement needs to come with the pass rush, if we can't stop the run on 1st or 2nd down, then our 3rd down rushers cannot fully pass rush to the QB. There were too many times last year where it was 2nd and 2 or 3rd and I for us on defense. It's time to stop neglecting the 1 tech, and draft Jarran Reid from Alabama. We need to do better than Nick Hayden. Thoughts?

We should have plenty of big DTs to pick from at the top of the second and I hope that's where we go with the pick. We need to take advantage of the strength of this class, but we might be tempted to wait until later because of the depth of the class at this position. I hope that isn't the case.

 

[gimmesix]

It's time to stop neglecting the safety position and get two safeties that can actually play. That will make a far bigger positive impact on this team than getting a good 1-tech.





YR

I don't agree with you. A guy who can push the pocket and force double-teams allows this defense to rush the passer like this 4-3 is built to do. A good pass rush and stuffing the run will have a positive impact on the secondary play.

 

[Omegasupreme]

I agree. We're fine with T. Craw and Irving for now. We need a stud 1-tech next to them. That and future QB are my two biggest wants.

Its one of those drafts that really make me nervous. Jerry doesn't do well with deep drafts at certain positions. He tends to wait too long thinking he can get players later and now in the Jason years, the rationalizations are so contrived that every draft pick is claimed to be intelligently designed as the intention all along. Nick Hayden as the best piece for the 1 technique? The size/speed combination of Hayden is just not acceptable and I'm not sure why it was accepted. Hayden really fits none of the descriptions of the important qualities of the 1-technique below (except for being available, willing and cheap).
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/

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1-Technique (4-3 NT) – Pat Williams
The 1-technique does much the same as the 0-technique, except he is shaded over the inside shoulder of one of the guards, and is rarely expected to control two gaps. He is, however, expected to command a double team from the center and guard, which frees up other linemen to be one on one with their blockers. Pat Williams has been the prototype for this position for years. Williams was an immovable force in the middle for the Vikings and required two players to try and shift him from the point of attack, leaving Kevin Williams single-blocked by a guard, and allowing linebackers to run free to the ball and make stops close to the line of scrimmage. A good 1-technique DT can dramatically improve an entire run defense, because he makes several players’ jobs much easier.Alternative prototypes:Haloti Ngata, Antonio Dixon, Colin Cole

 

[NEODOG]

Still think DJ Reader is on our radar

 

[ConstantReboot]

I don't care how much improvement needs to come with the pass rush, if we can't stop the run on 1st or 2nd down, then our 3rd down rushers cannot fully pass rush to the QB. There were too many times last year where it was 2nd and 2 or 3rd and I for us on defense. It's time to stop neglecting the 1 tech, and draft Jarran Reid from Alabama. We need to do better than Nick Hayden. Thoughts?

This team is so in denial. I don't think its all Marinelli's fault because this problem stems back even before Marinelli. Still fuming that we didn't draft Caraun Reid in the 5th and instead with a bust in Devin Street. Sometimes I just don't understand this team.

 

[Nova]

I'll go one step further and say stop thinking we are all set at the 3tech!

Never want to be content there, but unless something just fell into our laps I'd roll with Crawford and Irving there for now.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I'll go one step further and say stop thinking we are all set at the 3tech!

 

[Rockport]

I don't care how much improvement needs to come with the pass rush, if we can't stop the run on 1st or 2nd down, then our 3rd down rushers cannot fully pass rush to the QB. There were too many times last year where it was 2nd and 2 or 3rd and I for us on defense. It's time to stop neglecting the 1 tech, and draft Jarran Reid from Alabama. We need to do better than Nick Hayden. Thoughts?

I agree we need to upgrade the position but not in the first round.

 

[Rockport]

Byron Jones will be FS going forward
We have multiple draft picks and a lot of cap room which should allow us to address all of these needs if we're smart. Problem is we don't seem to think that a void 1T and good safety play are important. It is not a matter of lack of resources, so both priorities can be addressed. We just don't want to do it.

I think they want to do but have just prioritized elsewhere. This isn't Madden where you can get just anyone you want.

 

[Sinister]

1-tech in my mind in incredibly important. I know the Marinelli's of the world don't agree with me, but when an offensive lines guards and centers can key on the 1-tech move him where they want, they make it so much easier for their offense.

The 1-tech ideally (in my mind) would be able to hold up against double teams and allow the linebackers to flow to the ball. When I watch the Cowboys I see their linebackers getting caught up in the trash consistently and the opponents guards, centers able to get to the second and thirds level allowing them to block and lean on linebackers and secondary players.

Strength; the offensive line has the advantage of knowing where the ball is going and if they can lean on the smaller defensive line than they can wear the defensive line down. With the smaller defensive line we more often than not see them wearing down at the end of games and at the end of the year. The play on the line takes a larger toll on the defense than the offense.

We need more physical players on the defensive line. I don't understand why this coaching staff does not see it.

Saying that safety is more important than the 1-tech, I just believe is completely wrong.

This team needs an anchor in the middle of that line and I just don't see how much clearer it could be.

 

[muck4doo]

Someone tell Marinelli that Hayden is not his son. Did Hayden bring him an apple before every practice or what?

Golden apple? That would explain a lot.

Beware Helen.

 

[LittleD]

You guys can talk about 1Tech and Safety all you want but, it's not in the Cowboys DNA to take a lower
valued player in the first 3 rounds. They, like many teams, look at the money 5 positions and that's where
they tend to place their value chips. Look for CB, DE, WR or a real fast blitzing LB to be their pick if
they don't trade down a few spots. Besides, they got their Free Safety last year so that

 

[JohnsKey19]

1-Technique (4-3 NT) – Pat Williams
The 1-technique does much the same as the 0-technique, except he is shaded over the inside shoulder of one of the guards, and is rarely expected to control two gaps. He is, however, expected to command a double team from the center and guard, which frees up other linemen to be one on one with their blockers. Pat Williams has been the prototype for this position for years. Williams was an immovable force in the middle for the Vikings and required two players to try and shift him from the point of attack, leaving Kevin Williams single-blocked by a guard, and allowing linebackers to run free to the ball and make stops close to the line of scrimmage. A good 1-technique DT can dramatically improve an entire run defense, because he makes several players’ jobs much easier.Alternative prototypes:Haloti Ngata, Antonio Dixon, Colin Cole

If we had a Pat Williams caliber player inside, i truly believe this would be a consistently nasty defense. But for whatever reason, the team seems content to roll with the complete opposite.

 

[gimmesix]

We keep saying that Marinelli doesn't value the 1-tech position. What exactly are we basing that on, the fact that we didn't take Sharif Floyd?

I think it's clear that Marinelli believes his defense has to have studs at some positions, especially 3-tech, right end and weakside linebacker. However, I don't think that means he doesn't value having a good 1-tech. I think it just means he's willing to get by with a lesser player there if he has to in order to pump up those positions he feels are more important in his defense.

Now, we've got our 3-tech in Crawford, our weakside LB in Lee, possibly our right end in Gregory. We've also got our left end in Lawrence and our potential free safety in Jones. I could see Marinelli wanting another stud linebacker to pair with Lee (if we don't retain McClain) or a corner who better fits his defense than Carr, but I'm not sure that he values those positions any more than he values 1-tech.

 

[CyberB0b]

Seems to be Marinelli's blind spot. The mere fact that Hayden was on this team, not to mention a starter, speaks volumes.

Well, the fact that no one was brought in to seriously compete for the spot after McClain went down speaks volumes about the organization.

 

[Daillest88]

Its one of those drafts that really make me nervous. Jerry doesn't do well with deep drafts at certain positions. He tends to wait too long thinking he can get players later and now in the Jason years, the rationalizations are so contrived that every draft pick is claimed to be intelligently designed as the intention all along. Nick Hayden as the best piece for the 1 technique? The size/speed combination of Hayden is just not acceptable and I'm not sure why it was accepted. Hayden really fits none of the descriptions of the important qualities of the 1-technique below (except for being available, willing and cheap).
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/

What about Andrew billings?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You guys can talk about 1Tech and Safety all you want but, it's not in the Cowboys DNA to take a lower
valued player in the first 3 rounds. They, like many teams, look at the money 5 positions and that's where
they tend to place their value chips. Look for CB, DE, WR or a real fast blitzing LB to be their pick if
they don't trade down a few spots. Besides, they got their Free Safety last year so that

FS is not a lower valued position any more. Especially in this kind of Defensive scheme. CB is valued less in this scheme then is Safety, to be honest. DT has not been undervalued for awhile now. I agree that our scheme undervalues 1Tech but if we are looking at a 3Tech and moving Crawford to 1Tech, which he can play, then it's still a possibility. I agree that a move down might be the way to go there but it's not impossible that either DT or FS is a consideration. In fact, if the QB that we covet is not there, FS might be our pick here, IMO.

 

[LittleD]

FS is not a lower valued position any more. Especially in this kind of Defensive scheme. CB is valued less in this scheme then is Safety, to be honest. DT has not been undervalued for awhile now. I agree that our scheme undervalues 1Tech but if we are looking at a 3Tech and moving Crawford to 1Tech, which he can play, then it's still a possibility. I agree that a move down might be the way to go there but it's not impossible that either DT or FS is a consideration. In fact, if the QB that we covet is not there, FS might be our pick here, IMO.

We will probably have 3 players starting off the season at 1-Tech. Crawford from England, Irving (new from last year) and our "Cock of the Walk" Hayden. Those are the types Marinelli will start with in TC. We might draft a DT in the 4th or 6th round but, probably not before then. We could pick a CB/Safety at #4 if he's available.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We will probably have 3 players starting off the season at 1-Tech. Crawford from England, Irving (new from last year) and our "Cock of the Walk" Hayden. Those are the types Marinelli will start with in TC. We might draft a DT in the 4th or 6th round but, probably not before then. We could pick a CB/Safety at #4 if he's available.

I think we will look later in the draft for a DT as well but the possibility is there that we might consider taking a guy in the 1st round at DT. It all depends on how much value the team believes is available at that position and pick. I do think FS is probably the position we are looking at with #4 if we don't take a QB. I think it's Jalen Ramsey right now.