It's time to stop neglecting the 1 tech

[LittleD]

I think we will look later in the draft for a DT as well but the possibility is there that we might consider taking a guy in the 1st round at DT. It all depends on how much value the team believes is available at that position and pick. I do think FS is probably the position we are looking at with #4 if we don't take a QB. I think it's Jalen Ramsey right now.

We agree, I think Jalen is right at the top of their board right now. They will have to be concerned with San Diego choosing
him because of letting Weddle go. If he's not available, Jack is probably the choice most highly valued right now.

 

[Kolemmitt]

We keep saying that Marinelli doesn't value the 1-tech position. What exactly are we basing that on, the fact that we didn't take Sharif Floyd?

I think it's clear that Marinelli believes his defense has to have studs at some positions, especially 3-tech, right end and weakside linebacker. However, I don't think that means he doesn't value having a good 1-tech. I think it just means he's willing to get by with a lesser player there if he has to in order to pump up those positions he feels are more important in his defense.

Now, we've got our 3-tech in Crawford, our weakside LB in Lee, possibly our right end in Gregory. We've also got our left end in Lawrence and our potential free safety in Jones. I could see Marinelli wanting another stud linebacker to pair with Lee (if we don't retain McClain) or a corner who better fits his defense than Carr, but I'm not sure that he values those positions any more than he values 1-tech.

Honestly, I have wondered that myself. Back when Marinelli was the DL coach for Tampa they selected Booger McFarland with the 15th pick. They already had Sapp as the 3-tech. It is important to note that the year before Booger arrived Sapp had 7 sacks (even though he had 2 healthy arms). The next year with Booger next to him his sack total jumped up to 12.5 and 16.5.

I don't think he values the big, lumbering, slow-twitch 330 + lb. NG type, but I do think if we can get a 300-320, dynamic, athletic DT like Booger he will push for it.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Honestly, I have wondered that myself. Back when Marinelli was the DL coach for Tampa they selected Booger McFarland with the 15th pick. They already had Sapp as the 3-tech. It is important to note that the year before Booger arrived Sapp had 7 sacks (even though he had 2 healthy arms). The next year with Booger next to him his sack total jumped up to 12.5 and 16.5.

I don't think he values the big, lumbering, slow-twitch 330 + lb. NG type, but I do think if we can get a 300-320, dynamic, athletic DT like Booger he will push for it.

Yep. Nobody is talking about spending the 4th pick on a 330 lb pure run stuffer. But if we could get a 300-315 lb guy with run stuffing and pass rushing ability (Billings, Robinson, Rankins) then I think it's worth a 1st round pick.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We agree, I think Jalen is right at the top of their board right now. They will have to be concerned with San Diego choosing
him because of letting Weddle go. If he's not available, Jack is probably the choice most highly valued right now.

I don't know that it's Jack. I think the jury is still out there. Jack is a pass rusher fit for a 34 IMO.

The question, at least in my mind, is what Tennessee does. The best player in this draft, at least based on the info available now, might be Tunsil. Tennessee has a huge need at LT and he is the perfect fit at the right position. However, he only stated 5 games in 2015 and the suspension issue could play a role here. If they decide to take him with the first pick, which would make sense if they believe he is good to go, then this draft could go by the numbers. The Browns would likely take a QB. Which one they like better, I don't know but lets say it's Goff. San Diego does need a Safety but, if you really look at them, they really need to improve against the run. Last year, they were 27th against the run but 14 against the pass. They are 34 team so Jack really fits well for them. The real question is, are they OK with Attouchu at WOLB, he had 6 sacks last year but he should really have more. Then again, he's only in his 3rd season next year. Do they like Butler inside? He only had 43 tackles last year and half a sack. Jack could be their guy. They could go Safety but Jack would be really hard to pass up and I don't think Bosa is a fit. They could actually trade out. That would set up for us to take Ramsey or a QB or trade down.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jack, Bosa, Wentz, Ramsey. We'll get someone that can help the team.

I would love if Nkemdiche fell to the second round like Gregory.

 

[LittleD]

I don't know that it's Jack. I think the jury is still out there. Jack is a pass rusher fit for a 34 IMO.

The question, at least in my mind, is what Tennessee does. The best player in this draft, at least based on the info available now, might be Tunsil. Tennessee has a huge need at LT and he is the perfect fit at the right position. However, he only stated 5 games in 2015 and the suspension issue could play a role here. If they decide to take him with the first pick, which would make sense if they believe he is good to go, then this draft could go by the numbers. The Browns would likely take a QB. Which one they like better, I don't know but lets say it's Goff. San Diego does need a Safety but, if you really look at them, they really need to improve against the run. Last year, they were 27th against the run but 14 against the pass. They are 34 team so Jack really fits well for them. The real question is, are they OK with Attouchu at WOLB, he had 6 sacks last year but he should really have more. Then again, he's only in his 3rd season next year. Do they like Butler inside? He only had 43 tackles last year and half a sack. Jack could be their guy. They could go Safety but Jack would be really hard to pass up and I don't think Bosa is a fit. They could actually trade out. That would set up for us to take Ramsey or a QB or trade down.

All of your scenarios are viable and one of them is very likely to play out. If I had my dream draft we would be able to trade down 5 picks or
so to SF and then select Ezekiel Elliott. I know, no one wants to take a RB that high but, I think he would really boost the offense and than
I would be very comfortable taking the next 8 picks on Defense.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

All of your scenarios are viable and one of them is very likely to play out. If I had my dream draft we would be able to trade down 5 picks or
so to SF and then select Ezekiel Elliott. I know, no one wants to take a RB that high but, I think he would really boost the offense and than
I would be very comfortable taking the next 8 picks on Defense.

If Zeke runs in the 4.3s, like he is saying he will, I would consider taking him 7 to 10. I would not take him top 5 so a trade down would have to happen but yeah.

 

[LittleD]

If Zeke runs in the 4.3s, like he is saying he will, I would consider taking him 7 to 10. I would not take him top 5 so a trade down would have to happen but yeah.

I very much agree, if we don't do the trade down if will be a QB or defensive guy. I know from listening to DC.com that several
coaches & scouts love Jalen and there is also strong support for Jack and Bosa. No trade down and I think one of these is our
guy at #4.

 

[Sydla]

I don't know that it's Jack. I think the jury is still out there. Jack is a pass rusher fit for a 34 IMO.

The question, at least in my mind, is what Tennessee does. The best player in this draft, at least based on the info available now, might be Tunsil. Tennessee has a huge need at LT and he is the perfect fit at the right position. However, he only stated 5 games in 2015 and the suspension issue could play a role here. If they decide to take him with the first pick, which would make sense if they believe he is good to go, then this draft could go by the numbers. The Browns would likely take a QB. Which one they like better, I don't know but lets say it's Goff. San Diego does need a Safety but, if you really look at them, they really need to improve against the run. Last year, they were 27th against the run but 14 against the pass. They are 34 team so Jack really fits well for them. The real question is, are they OK with Attouchu at WOLB, he had 6 sacks last year but he should really have more. Then again, he's only in his 3rd season next year. Do they like Butler inside? He only had 43 tackles last year and half a sack. Jack could be their guy. They could go Safety but Jack would be really hard to pass up and I don't think Bosa is a fit. They could actually trade out. That would set up for us to take Ramsey or a QB or trade down.

Not sure that's true about Jack. If there's one thing that's questioned on him is can he rush the passer. He's had one sack in 3 years at UCLA.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not sure that's true about Jack. If there's one thing that's questioned on him is can he rush the passer. He's had one sack in 3 years at UCLA.

Yes, but in a 34, you also need an inside LB who can cover, stack and chase. That is Jack for sure. He needs work on the stack part but that is likely strength and technique. I'm not saying it will happen but he's a good fit there.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

Nick Fairley anyone? He's the 1 tech in a great Rams DL, he could fit well here. He kept his nose clean in St. Louis as well.

 

[Nightman]

Nick Fairley anyone? He's the 1 tech in a great Rams DL, he could fit well here. He kept his nose clean in St. Louis as well.

He kept his nose clean but didn't play much(Donald is a moster). He also may have lost TOO much weight, he was down to 278 last year. That might make him more attractive to Marinelli.

 

[Nightman]

We will probably have 3 players starting off the season at 1-Tech. Crawford from England, Irving (new from last year) and our "Cock of the Walk" Hayden. Those are the types Marinelli will start with in TC. We might draft a DT in the 4th or 6th round but, probably not before then. We could pick a CB/Safety at #4 if he's available.

The only 1Ts I see on the roster right now are TMcClain and Clay Walker.

We need to add some one and DT is very deep in the Draft and FA.

The team likes Hayden because he only counts 500k against the cap even though they pay him 800k. Some kind of tax credit for keeping older players over rookies.

 

[LittleD]

The only 1Ts I see on the roster right now are TMcClain and Clay Walker.

We need to add some one and DT is very deep in the Draft and FA.

The team likes Hayden because he only counts 500k against the cap even though they pay him 800k. Some kind of tax credit for keeping older players over rookies.

Both Crawford and David Irving played at the 1-Tech this year. I think Irving has a future at interior defensive tackle and I think the Cowboys coaches like him.
McClain is almost always hurt and I don't really think he will make it to training camp. He just can't stay healthy and on the field.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This delusional favor towards a terrible player is only a microcosm of how a team can lose two or three players and go from 12-4 to 4-12 in one season. When other teams lose even more and still produce a solid season. No one person in an organization should be able to keep a sub-par player in the starting lineup and refuse to draft better and younger players to replace him. How can he see greatness in him when everyone e else sees mediocrity? Only in Dallas baby! Only in Dallas!:-(

"2 or 3 players".... As if missing one of the best quarterbacks and wide receivers in the league is the same as a nickel corner going down.

 

[CCBoy]

"2 or 3 players".... As if missing one of the best quarterbacks and wide receivers in the league is the same as a nickel corner going down.

Sign Fairley and RGIII, then take the top WR. Round two could be used for a running back or defender of choice.

 

[Verdict]

1-tech in my mind in incredibly important. I know the Marinelli's of the world don't agree with me, but when an offensive lines guards and centers can key on the 1-tech move him where they want, they make it so much easier for their offense.

The 1-tech ideally (in my mind) would be able to hold up against double teams and allow the linebackers to flow to the ball. When I watch the Cowboys I see their linebackers getting caught up in the trash consistently and the opponents guards, centers able to get to the second and thirds level allowing them to block and lean on linebackers and secondary players.

Strength; the offensive line has the advantage of knowing where the ball is going and if they can lean on the smaller defensive line than they can wear the defensive line down. With the smaller defensive line we more often than not see them wearing down at the end of games and at the end of the year. The play on the line takes a larger toll on the defense than the offense.

We need more physical players on the defensive line. I don't understand why this coaching staff does not see it.

Saying that safety is more important than the 1-tech, I just believe is completely wrong.

This team needs an anchor in the middle of that line and I just don't see how much clearer it could be.

Having that strong DT should also, in theory, help take some of the wear and tear off of the linebackers as well, since they aren't taking on 300 pounders on every play if the 1 tech is taking them on instead.

 

[revospeed]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rod Marinelli takes the same approach with the 1-tech as I do with women. The worse the nickname, the more I like them, no one else can want them and 280 lbs is ideal.

 

[JoeKing]

It's time to stop talking about defensive alignments as if they are positions. Defensive linemen can shift in and out of techniques in a split second... whether it's 1, 3, or 5 tech, none of them should be neglected so much as to predict for the offense what our tendencies are.

 

[jobberone]

The only 1Ts I see on the roster right now are TMcClain and Clay Walker.

We need to add some one and DT is very deep in the Draft and FA.

The team likes Hayden because he only counts 500k against the cap even though they pay him 800k. Some kind of tax credit for keeping older players over rookies.

Jack Crawford is the backup to Hayden. Walker is huge.

There are some 3s, a CB, and a S/CB and I think we will see someone out of there. I'd be tempted to take an edge rusher but I think they will let Gregory try to step up and they can get another pass rusher from a 3, 5/7 or edge rusher/OLB. The latter is why I won't rule out Jack.

I don't care about a 1. I care about 3 or outside rusher.