ITS: Ungrateful fans need to stop taking Dak Prescott for granted

[kskboys]

Edelman and Welker were great too. Hell as crazy as he was Aaron Hernandez was damn good.

When Brady didn't have a great D, he lost to the Eagles.

 

[The Fonz]

I never knew Tad is a journalist ..... man...Tad is everywhere

 

[CCBoy]

Yeah. 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail or are average at best. Including a few #1 and #2 picks.

Sorry but real NFL is not yahoo fantasy football

Depends on the team, scheme, and leadership directly above that player. Dallas is doing great here...

 

[CCBoy]

So trying to draft a better QB than Dak is unrealistic fantasy football? You people are freaking nuts.

You bet, put all on hold for the next two seasons, and instead of drafting a top running and one more dominant offensive lineman and linebacker...go quarterback.

Yea, that's a true beauty...

 

[Momanpr100]

Romo made steak out of a lot of hamburger.

So many players that Romo got production out of simply evaporated w/o Romo throwing them the ball. Escobar couldn't make it in semi-pro ball. Dunbar. TWill. Hurd. Austin.

Dez is not Dez w/o Romo. Certainly was never Dez with Dak.

I think Robinson had something before and after Romo. But under Romo, that something turned into a pace for pro bowl production.

The only guy who looked decent post Romo was Crayton, and that for Rivers, a largely equivalent QB in terms of elevating the players around him.

I must've missed out on when Romo was All Pro.

 

[Hadenough]

Oh so you were lobbying for luck and Lawrence. And how do we move to the #1 over all pick to get them? And then have no draft capital to surrond the. With anything.

This ain't yahoo fantasy football son. Real world doesn't work like that

Yeah it did t work for the Eagles or Rams did it.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yeah it did t work for the Eagles or Rams did it.

It worked for the Rams but in hindsight was it the QB? Maybe but certainly not JUST the QB as we saw last year when the other 4 all pros they brought in didnt play... but yeah if the Cowboys could sell 5 bad years for one SB I'm probably ok with that. Has it worked for the Eagles yet? Sure they have gotten farther than we have but is the goal getting there and losing? Like many other SB losing team of the past there is a good chance they wont be back.

 

[rambo2]

Yeah it did t work for the Eagles or Rams did it.

The Rams are history and the Cowboys are contending this year. Rams fans are already pissed. They may be bad for a decade.

 

[Vtwin]

17th in post is not "below average". They gave up 22 points a game. In comparison the Cowboys and 49ers gave up 21 points....nobody said they were "below average".

And Joe Mixon was 3rd in the league in rushing and had 13 touchdowns in '21.

You can try to maniuplate others but you can't fool me. The Bengals had a bad offensive line. But their skilled players were some of the best in the league. They literally have the best receiving group in the league.

17th is definitely below average. Simple math.

Yes. The Bengals were good at some positions and bad at others. Very good QB and receivers. As good as Mixon is, he his also dependant on the oline, hence the very average running game despite the very good RB.

51 sacks.

I'm not trying to fool you. You do a very good job of fooling yourself. You don't need me.

 

[Vtwin]

Proven fact. Elite QBs need less talent around them to succeed....I bet your mind is blown!!

BTW, are you saying Gronk isn't elite talent or randy moss? And having Bilicheck helps too. Just sayin

You've responded to me twice, both times ignoring the single point I was making.

I didn't even mention the Patriots. Go take a nap.

 

[Vtwin]

True.

As per normal, a team must have a dominant facet to reach a super bowl. In this case, along w/ many many others, a dominant DLine put the Bengals in the super bowl.

I'd say his team overall was above average. What dropped them from really good to above average was the horrific OLine.

The only thing I would debate is that the d-line put them in the SB.

The QB and the d-line put them in the SB.

 

[CowboyFrog]

The only thing I would debate is that the d-line put them in the SB.

The QB and the d-line put them in the SB.

If the QB is in it does that WR core not need to be 2B in that.. again nothing against saying Burrow is a great QB but to dismiss how good his WR core has been doesn't show the whole story.

 

[Vtwin]

If the QB is in it does that WR core not need to be 2B in that.. again nothing against saying Burrow is a great QB but to dismiss how good his WR core has been doesn't show the whole story.

I didn't dismiss the wr group I thought it went without saying.

This isn't pointed at you, but I find it hilarious that even last season Dak was being defended by pointing at the o-line not being able to protect him, yet these same defenders seem to ignore the 51 sacks Burrows took on the way to the SB and the 7 sacks he took in the SB.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I didn't dismiss the wr group I thought it went without saying.

This isn't pointed at you, but I find it hilarious that even last season Dak was being defended by pointing at the o-line not being able to protect him, yet these same defenders seem to ignore the 51 sacks Burrows took on the way to the SB and the 7 sacks he took in the SB.

I dont fully agree with the whole OL argument either.. Since JG for some reason alot of fans seem to think we need an all pro at every OL position, no team has that. I also dont think we have schemed to strengths of many of our players (another argument for sure) but a combination of bad scheme (for what we could actually do with the players we had) bad desicions (the QB is right in the center of this) and needing to rely on subpar playmakers gets you a horrible offensive out put when your up against the best defense in the league. Dak gets no exscuses in this but certainly he is not the only fault... Burrow played very well with pressure all around and when he needed it his WR would bail him out for sure.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

17th is definitely below average. Simple math.

Yes. The Bengals were good at some positions and bad at others. Very good QB and receivers. As good as Mixon is, he his also dependant on the oline, hence the very average running game despite the very good RB.

51 sacks.

I'm not trying to fool you. You do a very good job of fooling yourself. You don't need me.

So the Cowboys and 49ers defenses were below average in 2021? Bengals had a bad offensive line. What other positions were bad?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I dont fully agree with the whole OL argument either.. Since JG for some reason alot of fans seem to think we need an all pro at every OL position, no team has that. I also dont think we have schemed to strengths of many of our players (another argument for sure) but a combination of bad scheme (for what we could actually do with the players we had) bad desicions (the QB is right in the center of this) and needing to rely on subpar playmakers gets you a horrible offensive out put when your up against the best defense in the league. Dak gets no exscuses in this but certainly he is not the only fault... Burrow played very well with pressure all around and when he needed it his WR would bail him out for sure.

Yeah that’s another myth. What people don’t understand is that to win a SB you need a good offensive line. But you can make the playoffs with an average or below average offensive line if you have other positions field up. Bengals do.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Yeah. 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail or are average at best. Including a few #1 and #2 picks.

Sorry but real NFL is not yahoo fantasy football

But 4 out 5 teams arent as good as we are at drafting.....heck we turned a 4th Rd a very good QB. Since the injury he's just not putting in the appearance that screams deep play-off run, maybe it's time for a change, retain the roster to help a rookie.

Im quite willing to see what Dak has in 2023, however, the Dakastan's appear to be resign Dak regardless.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yeah it did t work for the Eagles or Rams did it.

Rams? They traded picks for a known quantity and player who was #1 over all pick. Made few more trades to help Stafford. I never advocated not to do that. But do you trust Jones who was going to pick Manziel and trade up for lynch.

I am not a big believer of Hurts. Henhas the best OL in football. Top 3 WR group. Top 3 rushing attack. Top 5 TE. And top 3 defense.

That's a lotnof support they gave him. He is good but far from elite.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You've responded to me twice, both times ignoring the single point I was making.

I didn't even mention the Patriots. Go take a nap.

No I didn't ignore any of your points. You made no points

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

But 4 out 5 teams arent as good as we are at drafting.....heck we turned a 4th Rd a very good QB. Since the injury he's just not putting in the appearance that screams deep play-off run, maybe it's time for a change, retain the roster to help a rookie.

Im quite willing to see what Dak has in 2023, however, the Dakastan's appear to be resign Dak regardless.

Perhaps time for a change is coming. The team went 12-4 and 12-5 and two straightnplayoffs and second round this past year. You have to give the coach the chance to run his own team and not shove an OC down his throat. Let's see where we go this year and maybe next and then move on.

Brady couldn't win with Garrett. I don't think mahomes wouldnhave won with Garrett. We would be better but still too handicapped to win anything with those coaches.