ITS: Ungrateful fans need to stop taking Dak Prescott for granted

[CowboyoWales]

Perhaps time for a change is coming. The team went 12-4 and 12-5 and two straightnplayoffs and second round this past year. You have to give the coach the chance to run his own team and not shove an OC down his throat. Let's see where we go this year and maybe next and then move on.

Brady couldn't win with Garrett. I don't think mahomes wouldnhave won with Garrett. We would be better but still too handicapped to win anything with those coaches.

The only problem with waiting until 2025 is that indications are that the QB Class of 2024 maybe that strong that we need to make the decision next April. The problem is that we're building on hope that Dak improves (unless fans adhere to the "The Cowboys have the best offense - look at the regular season stats") and that at some point (just like the CAP) we cant keep kicking it down the alley - based on hope.

As for OC, his stats (and most that argue for Dak love their stats), were much better under Garrett, though COMP% rates were higher under Moore and his Curls....go figure.

So McCarthy/Schottenheimer will be his third caller, how long and how many does he need?

He has his weapons - now perform-. IM STILL OF THE OPINION THAT ITS HIS INABILITY TO PERFORM IN THE CLUTCH, AS MENTIONED IN HIS 55 Rating for ">2min and Trailing".

 

[JoeKing]

What exactly are we supposed to be grateful for? He is far too careless with the ball with interceptions and fumbles. I suppose those of you that prioritize worshiping Dak over what's best for the team are grateful for Dak. Is that you OP?

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

He's good, he plays great sometimes, but he's not elite...although he's paid like he's elite...

Plenty of teams with much worse options, but also plenty with better options...definitely better than the average but not much better

Post of the day....

He is not even in the top 10 anymore of QB money.

People are gonna have to stop saying this.

ZRINKILL, He should have never been in the first place..

 

[Qcard]

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Dak Haters are Soft!!

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I felt ungrateful watching him play against the 49ers in that playoff game last year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The only problem with waiting until 2025 is that indications are that the QB Class of 2024 maybe that strong that we need to make the decision next April.

Next year there are 2 QB's better than any in this years draft class.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Dallas could have done worse. Could maybe have done better.

At this point 90% of Dallas Cowboys fans have made up their mind about Dak. Not much would change anyone's mind except maybe a SB win, and that only about half of those that don't think he shouldn't be the Cowboys quarterback.

Oh well, it's the off season, gotta have something to talk about....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The only problem with waiting until 2025 is that indications are that the QB Class of 2024 maybe that strong that we need to make the decision next April. The problem is that we're building on hope that Dak improves (unless fans adhere to the "The Cowboys have the best offense - look at the regular season stats") and that at some point (just like the CAP) we cant keep kicking it down the alley - based on hope.

As for OC, his stats (and most that argue for Dak love their stats), were much better under Garrett, though COMP% rates were higher under Moore and his Curls....go figure.

So McCarthy/Schottenheimer will be his third caller, how long and how many does he need?

He has his weapons - now perform-. IM STILL OF THE OPINION THAT ITS HIS INABILITY TO PERFORM IN THE CLUTCH, AS MENTIONED IN HIS 55 Rating for ">2min and Trailing".

indications are its strong. is it like 2018? 2019? 2020?

usually even in these "strong" QB classes you get one good one at best. 2020 seems to be an exception to the rule looking back at past 20 years of draft history in first round.

and if we are in low 20s as we expect to be, then what will it take to trade into top 5. I am not opposed to doing that. but you better be dang sure because you miss (Bake Mayfield, Zack Wilson) and you put the team behind at least another 5-7 years. again, at some point we have to take a chance, but its quite risky. that's all. Andy reid did it. he was very very sure, when 31 other teams really weren't. good for Andy. he has always been good with QBs and a good coach. do we have one of those? we had an owner who wanted to Draft Johnny Manziel and wanted to trade up to get Paxton Lynch. he ain't no QB guru.

 

[blueblood70]

1. Try some reading comprehension. I very explicitly said that Rush sucks and that Dak is the 10th best QB in the NFL. Perhaps I will type slower for you next time so you can get it but nowhere did I say or even imply that Rush is on Dak's level. I was just using it as an example of how the team, without Dak, is really good much to the chagrin of the Dak fanboys.

2. Speaking of massive failures, you forgot to mention all of the turnovers and 3 and outs. During those games. Dak consistently hung the defense out to dry while OTOH, Dallas lead the NFL in takeaways. I'll type this one really slowly for you
The defense made the offense look good because of turnovers
The offense made the defense look bad because of turnovers

Here is some "context and facts"


Do you even watch the games?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401437886

There is that 50 point game you are so proud of.
- Malik Hooker 38 yard TD fumble return
- INT at Dal 47 by Bland
- INT at Dal 28 by Bland
- Forced fumble at Ind 28 by Osa

Out of their 54 points that Dak "lead" them to, 28 were off turnovers generated by the defense just in the 4th quarter. Dak didn't even come on the field for 7 of them.

rush wouldn't and couldn't have done any of that thasts my poiint..also ironic dak in very long stretch highset csoringteram in football and 3rd down% and redzone scorign..odd you thjk too many leagie below avege in 3 and outs..sorry i canb read and stil who heartedly diagree with your assessment..when you try and put dak on an isald like cherry pickign haters do, sure those apear a nagaoitve when you see other top qbs numbers are on par in most cases lie FRUsh was NOT DOING that they were sring under 20 most games even with the D payig oit of thei mnds..good try thoiugh./ Turnovers and other things, we see it is in fact what haters do. its nice to have qb be able to convert TOs..but nice that D stepped up and them our o converted.

how about after that pick 6 we beat philly dropping 40 on them and well that is THE highest score they gave up all year.. yup that was Dak.. also lit up MN with over 40 sure looked like qb in command of game..

again where was that mighty d when they were getting ran over by bears , packers and others? Prescott had us up 14 against those packers in the 4th , Jags up 17 4th, again most qbs aren't giving their Ds BIG leads like that.

here comes the cherry picking.. point was Dak outside of an off year in unlucky bounces with INTS he had this Offense rolling at one point, then steele goes down, Zeke gets hurt, other line shuffling and that pass rush win rate the sack talliers overlook were NOT good against the pass rush, fact is dak had to throw early, throw on the run or run, it effected the offense.

the fact we had noah brown as the 2 and gallup not playing well, routes were horrible , concrete hands etc etc all led to many of those issue including the broken hand he had to come back from, that the line allowing the rush to be so close he hit on follow through quite often..

 

[CowboyoWales]

Next year there are 2 QB's better than any in this years draft class.

....yep and read somewhere there's probably 6 going in the first round.

 

[Kwyn]

indications are its strong. is it like 2018? 2019? 2020?

usually even in these "strong" QB classes you get one good one at best. 2020 seems to be an exception to the rule looking back at past 20 years of draft history in first round.

and if we are in low 20s as we expect to be, then what will it take to trade into top 5. I am not opposed to doing that. but you better be dang sure because you miss (Bake Mayfield, Zack Wilson) and you put the team behind at least another 5-7 years. again, at some point we have to take a chance, but its quite risky. that's all. Andy reid did it. he was very very sure, when 31 other teams really weren't. good for Andy. he has always been good with QBs and a good coach. do we have one of those? we had an owner who wanted to Draft Johnny Manziel and wanted to trade up to get Paxton Lynch. he ain't no QB guru.

I agree with you.

Our entire draft was with 1300 “points”.

#1 overall is 3000
#5 overall is 1700

So, every pick we own two years in a row and it still isn’t enough to get #1

Of course that is fantasy and no team would do it. What are they going to do with a bunch of extra late rounders? Cut them?

There’s really just no way to go from late 20s to top five because simply can’t give enough value to any team in those spots.

 

[CowboyoWales]

indications are its strong. is it like 2018? 2019? 2020?

usually even in these "strong" QB classes you get one good one at best. 2020 seems to be an exception to the rule looking back at past 20 years of draft history in first round.

and if we are in low 20s as we expect to be, then what will it take to trade into top 5. I am not opposed to doing that. but you better be dang sure because you miss (Bake Mayfield, Zack Wilson) and you put the team behind at least another 5-7 years. again, at some point we have to take a chance, but its quite risky. that's all. Andy reid did it. he was very very sure, when 31 other teams really weren't. good for Andy. he has always been good with QBs and a good coach. do we have one of those? we had an owner who wanted to Draft Johnny Manziel and wanted to trade up to get Paxton Lynch. he ain't no QB guru.

But at something we have to make the decision, the way you write that decision has already made based on the chances of a QB working out.
You're advocating a 'same ole' strategy based on hope. If the rings were given after the regular season I'd certainly extend him....but until he can overcome that composure issue (example ....>2 min when trailing), then he'll always be the bridesmaid.

 

[Hadenough]

I felt ungrateful watching him play against the 49ers in that playoff game last year.

Yep the Dak bots are so ashamed and have no response for why he was outplayed by a practice squad QB. I'm not so sure Purdy couldn't of scored at least one more TD if needed.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I agree with you.

Our entire draft was with 1300 “points”.

#1 overall is 3000
#5 overall is 1700

So, every pick we own two years in a row and it still isn’t enough to get #1

Of course that is fantasy and no team would do it. What are they going to do with a bunch of extra late rounders? Cut them?

There’s really just no way to go from late 20s to top five because simply can’t give enough value to any team in those spots.

Why do we need #1 pick? Dak was what....?

 

[tyke1doe]

This subject title is laughable. Thanks, Dak, for two playoff wins in six years.

 

[CowboyoWales]

This subject title is laughable. Thanks, Dak, for two playoff wins in six years.

Yes but he's been unlucky: poor OC's, no weapons and injuries. Also he has been excellent!!!! in the regular season....if only there was a way of determining why the difference., I wonder if QBR (when compared to Rating may give us a clue).

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Next year there are 2 QB's better than any in this years draft class.

The Rams and Raiders will probably take them before we get a chance.

 

[CCBoy]

Next year there are 2 QB's better than any in this years draft class.

Until Prescott takes the bull by the horns and produces...I'll chuckle loudly then.

 

[CCBoy]

Yep the Dak bots are so ashamed and have no response for why he was outplayed by a practice squad QB. I'm not so sure Purdy couldn't of scored at least one more TD if needed.

Did Jason Garrett once win a playoff game for the Cowboys?

Insults are a poor excuse for not having valid context presented.

Some seem to forget there were three game changers against San Francisco and 2 of them had nothing to do with the QB. Now explain the effect of losing Galloway. Important?

By the way, bot a term used on the school yard by supposed bullies? Oh, at the pub...

 

[CowboyFrog]

The Rams O Line just about got away with it during the Superbowl year. They were like wallpaper last season as was the Bills' O line whilst Prescott played behind a very good O line again. Hugely overlooked by a lot of fans. Not a season to judge Stafford on or Allen.

We have seen Prescott play behind a bad o line for a game or two never am entire season yer always gets a pass. Was he sacked 5 or 6 times in a game by the same player?

Chaz Green?