ITS: Ungrateful fans need to stop taking Dak Prescott for granted

LittleD

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Right. And they are fairly easy to get. We should pursue one of them today, but we’re to lazy or don’t want to win.

I feel like they are just trying to anger fans like you by not getting one of the top 4 QB’s…maybe it’s time to move on.
Right...you only have to tank for a year or two and draft in the top 3 places to fill that long term need. You can never do it by winning 7-10 games per season.
 

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Pretty much every starting Dallas Cowboys quarterback takes some heat at some point. If this author thinks that's something new, he should study the careers of Don Meredith, Craig Morton, and Danny White. Even Aikman had his detractors, and some fans wanted him replaced by Steve Walsh. Even Staubach took some heat. When he was new to the team, some fans thought he was undisciplined, and took too many risks, and so the team should stick with Craig Morton.
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No matter who the current starting QB is, there will always be some ridiculous writer to pens a story to the effect of, "OMG, our QB is taking some heat, I'm shocked." Our starter lead the league in interceptions while playing only 12 games last season. I would be shocked if he didn't take some heat.
 

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yes lets gut the team and hope a rookie can carry a mediocre team past Mahomes in the SB... come on man. Your QB logic makes this comment make less sense... if you need the best QB in the league to win and another team already has him how does drafting an un known while gutting your other strengths equal better shot?
When this season ends with another suspect performance you'll start to see the picture.
 

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When this season ends with another suspect performance you'll start to see the picture.
There is no picture of this team without Micah that looks better.. especially no Micah and an unknown rookie QB starting..
 

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Did Jason Garrett once win a playoff game for the Cowboys?

Insults are a poor excuse for not having valid context presented.

Some seem to forget there were three game changers against San Francisco and 2 of them had nothing to do with the QB. Now explain the effect of losing Galloway. Important?

By the way, bot a term used on the school yard by supposed bullies? Oh, at the pub...
There is no insults there Pedro. Them is facts. Purdy out play him and those Dak bots can't handle the truth.
 

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Straight up. We have a guy who is capable. He doesn't need to be Top 5/10. Just manage the game and make a few big plays.
 

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There is no insults there Pedro. Them is facts. Purdy out play him and those Dak bots can't handle the truth.
Greatly changed game restrictions. He didn't play with a full deck...which you can't dispute. Winning is not in direct comparison of leadership behind a drive in season.

Keep emphasis descriptions to yourself. Agree or not...
 

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Straight up. We have a guy who is capable. He doesn't need to be Top 5/10. Just manage the game and make a few big plays.
true but you need to keep this qoute from history in mind when dealing with some posters.

"Some men just want to watch the world burn" - Alfred
 

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Nothing will change the minds of the anti-Dak crowd because they have their minds made up as to who he is. If he has one bad season out of eight, he is the one bad season guy. If he throws for 355 yards, 3 TD's, and a pick six, they will point to the pick six and ignore everything he did right.

And heaven forbid he listens to advice from other QB's like he did this offseason. It's funny that if we hear Micah Parsons is taking pointers from DeMarcus Ware, we get excited that Micah is trying to get better and add more tricks to his bag.

But if Dak does the same, it's because he's a dumb rube that doesn't know what he's doing after eight years in the league.

The goalpost keeps getting moved so long as it fits the narrative. Dak is who he is. A QB in the 7-12 range among the 32 starters. Which means he's good enough to win a championship. That's all I really have to say.
 

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Bunch of old men yelling at clouds.

Your tears over Dak are delicious.
Dak is the Cowboys' QB until he no longer is the Cowboys' QB. Don't think the Jones boys are going to read CowboysZone one morning, throw their hands up in the air and trade Dak for Andy Dalton and a can of Pringles.
 

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Nothing will change the minds of the anti-Dak crowd because they have their minds made up as to who he is. If he has one bad season out of eight, he is the one bad season guy. If he throws for 355 yards, 3 TD's, and a pick six, they will point to the pick six and ignore everything he did right.

And heaven forbid he listens to advice from other QB's like he did this offseason. It's funny that if we hear Micah Parsons is taking pointers from DeMarcus Ware, we get excited that Micah is trying to get better and add more tricks to his bag.

But if Dak does the same, it's because he's a dumb rube that doesn't know what he's doing after eight years in the league.

The goalpost keeps getting moved so long as it fits the narrative. Dak is who he is. A QB in the 7-12 range among the 32 starters. Which means he's good enough to win a championship. That's all I really have to say.
Naw, discussion spawned a whole American Country when a protest circulated the then known America.

To still be covered and not foreseen through non-stop attacks:

1. The Eagles struggle under new management​

2. The 49ers D crumbles without Demeco Ryans

3. Dak Prescott improves under McCarthy's tutelage

4. Sam Williams breaks out in year two.

5. The Cowboys pry Derrick Henry away from the Titans

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/5-dream-scenarios-boost-cowboys-2023-super-bowl-odds/5
 

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Nothing will change the minds of the anti-Dak crowd because they have their minds made up as to who he is. If he has one bad season out of eight, he is the one bad season guy. If he throws for 355 yards, 3 TD's, and a pick six, they will point to the pick six and ignore everything he did right.

And heaven forbid he listens to advice from other QB's like he did this offseason. It's funny that if we hear Micah Parsons is taking pointers from DeMarcus Ware, we get excited that Micah is trying to get better and add more tricks to his bag.

But if Dak does the same, it's because he's a dumb rube that doesn't know what he's doing after eight years in the league.

The goalpost keeps getting moved so long as it fits the narrative. Dak is who he is. A QB in the 7-12 range among the 32 starters. Which means he's good enough to win a championship. That's all I really have to say.
That's enough to contribute. :starspin:
 

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5.

The biggest dream scenario that we can see for the Cowboys would be finding a dominant running back that can command the respect of opposing defenses, forcing them to stack the box in order to stop him. Much like the Cowboys had with Ezekiel Elliott earlier in his career, a player like that would do far more for this offense than the changing of their offensive coordinator. That player would be Derrick Henry, his presence on this already talented Dallas roster would make this offense impossible to defend.

Stack the box to stop Henry and you leave CeeDee Lamb and Brandin Cook with one-on-one coverage and with their ability to win off the line of scrimmage you'd allow Dak Prescott to pick any secondary apart. Keep the box light and see Henry break off runs for big chunks of yards, either way you look at it this move would make this offense probably the most dangerous in the NFL and give this dominant defense even more rest that would help them on a run in the playoffs with the ultimate goal of being in and winning the Super Bowl.

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/5-dream-scenarios-boost-cowboys-2023-super-bowl-odds/5
 

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I agree with you.

Our entire draft was with 1300 “points”.

#1 overall is 3000
#5 overall is 1700

So, every pick we own two years in a row and it still isn’t enough to get #1

Of course that is fantasy and no team would do it. What are they going to do with a bunch of extra late rounders? Cut them?

There’s really just no way to go from late 20s to top five because simply can’t give enough value to any team in those spots.
plus future draft picks are worth much less.

again, what the pundits don't understand is we have to continue to be the best and win the superbowl and build the best team that can...and then based on each draft year, draft a QB. Dak is 30+ now, so we have to look ahead.

so was there a QB that was worth the 26th pick? would it make us better this year? or was there another player that could help the team get to the next level knowing some of the problems we have. the pundits have thrown in the towel. they just want to draft a QB and go through the cycle of finding a franchise QB. nothing less than that will satisfy them. I think we still have a chance. so addressing DT issues was key. we got gashed on the ground last year, specially second half of the year.

Pundits will point to Hurts, hey look Eagles took hurts and they went to the superbowl. forgetting that eagles were in the superbowl a few years before and won it. had the foundation, had the extra picks and built a very very very strong team...without that, Hurts couldn't have made it. there is no denying that.

also, they forget the other 30 QBs picked in low first and second round that amounted to nothing but average...but hey, its always about the exception not the rule. right?
 

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You know something? We could draft the top QB in the draft, and he'd get hated on by this fanbase his whole career. Why do you all think top FAs don't sign here?
 

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Nothing will change the minds of the anti-Dak crowd because they have their minds made up as to who he is. If he has one bad season out of eight, he is the one bad season guy. If he throws for 355 yards, 3 TD's, and a pick six, they will point to the pick six and ignore everything he did right.

And heaven forbid he listens to advice from other QB's like he did this offseason. It's funny that if we hear Micah Parsons is taking pointers from DeMarcus Ware, we get excited that Micah is trying to get better and add more tricks to his bag.

But if Dak does the same, it's because he's a dumb rube that doesn't know what he's doing after eight years in the league.

The goalpost keeps getting moved so long as it fits the narrative. Dak is who he is. A QB in the 7-12 range among the 32 starters. Which means he's good enough to win a championship. That's all I really have to say.
Hey, I get all this but......let's take Alex Smith of KC. He was also a bus driver, took care of the ball most of the time but could never get it done. Then Mahomes comes in and look at what they have done since.

Dak's career is not over. I am not saying he cannot get it done. I am saying that many a good qb has not made it to the dance during their career. I do know that you have to be consistent and cannot be throwing pics in the 4th quarter of a playoff game and expect to come out a winner. You might be able to do that in a regular season game but not a playoff contest. What am I trying to say? If Dak gets us a crown, it will be because he came through in the clutch, not because he screwed the pooch in the clutch. We will see if he learned anything from last year. I am rooting for the man and my team.

I am not anti Dak, I am pro-Cowboys and always will be.
 

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But at something we have to make the decision, the way you write that decision has already made based on the chances of a QB working out.
You're advocating a 'same ole' strategy based on hope. If the rings were given after the regular season I'd certainly extend him....but until he can overcome that composure issue (example ....>2 min when trailing), then he'll always be the bridesmaid.
I am not advocating the same old strategy. what we know is teams evaluate players and they make decisions based on those draft evaluations. we know they are mostly wrong about QBs. history tells us that. so if Levis was deemed a good QB and was there at 26, then we should have picked him. that's the long term outlook. but if he wasn't deemed a good QB, I say don't pick him for the sake of satisfying the pundits and picking a QB. it most probably will fail. Andy Reid was sold on Mahomes. Mahomes was deemed a risk out of college and probably a mid to late first round pick based on evaluations at the time. Andy was sold, made the trade and got his QB. so if we make moves, we better be damn sure. and hope it works out. others made similar type of trades. thought they were sure and it didn't work out.

so this past year, at 26, was Levis going to be the future and were we sold on him? vs. Mazi Smith and how he could help the team this year. I think Levis had a lot of question marks. history will tell if Titans were right or not.
 

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plus future draft picks are worth much less.

again, what the pundits don't understand is we have to continue to be the best and win the superbowl and build the best team that can...and then based on each draft year, draft a QB. Dak is 30+ now, so we have to look ahead.

so was there a QB that was worth the 26th pick? would it make us better this year? or was there another player that could help the team get to the next level knowing some of the problems we have. the pundits have thrown in the towel. they just want to draft a QB and go through the cycle of finding a franchise QB. nothing less than that will satisfy them. I think we still have a chance. so addressing DT issues was key. we got gashed on the ground last year, specially second half of the year.

Pundits will point to Hurts, hey look Eagles took hurts and they went to the superbowl. forgetting that eagles were in the superbowl a few years before and won it. had the foundation, had the extra picks and built a very very very strong team...without that, Hurts couldn't have made it. there is no denying that.

also, they forget the other 30 QBs picked in low first and second round that amounted to nothing but average...but hey, its always about the exception not the rule. right?
:rolleyes: I don't know, I kinda' liked Sam Huff and Mike Curtis before Lawrence Taylor and Dick Butkus...not an I-95 problem here. *(Philadelphia)
 
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