Jalen Ramsey is Quentin Jammer

[cowboys2233]

Maybe ramsey is the next ed reed and zeke is the next blair thomas......we wont know till they are drafted and play in the league for a few years

Yes, because Ed Reed had NINE interceptions in his last season at Miami, three times the number of interceptions Ramsey had in his entire career. Meanwhile, Ezekiel had 23 touchdowns in his final season. Twenty. Three. But hey! Screw production! We need an ATHLETE! LOL.

 

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe ramsey is the next ed reed and zeke is the next blair thomas......we wont know till they are drafted and play in the league for a few years

Hahaha...not bad!

 

[The Natural]

A quality, hard working RB behind this line will not bust unless he is injured. It is just not even a possibility. Zeke will win rushing titles behind this line if he stays healthy.

A quality, hard working CB can bust behind this front 7. That is not debatable. Sure, we could use a quality DB but there is a risk factor there that is more evident by a player on our roster right now (Mo). Mo was considered a top defensive player in a first round full of great prospects; Ramsey is considered a top defensive player in a first round that is considered to be lackluster.

That didnt really answer my question

 

[robjay04]

That didnt really answer my question

I wasn't trying to answer it. I'm just jumping in on the conversation and talking about the risk factor. Zeke has next to no risk as the pick, Ramsey has significant risk based on how hard it is for DB's to adapt to the NFL and how hard it is for a DB to succeed with a lackluster front 7.

 

[bsheeern]

How clever you are.

This is a fans message board.
These kind of post should be welcomed and the poster should not be attacked with rude sarcasm for commenting on their perception or analysis.

These kind of replies just shut down any interesting dialog.
If you don't agree it's fine to just say you don't. But why this type of reply?

LOL, How was I rude? I just asked what his previous results were on projecting NFL careers.

 

[superonyx]

..maybe because the poster made a definitive projection on both players' careers.

He didn't make a definitive projection on either.
He is concerned that Ramsey may just end up being average while Zeke is great....I am not sold on either and I have concerns both ways. As fans we should all be concerned that we will pick the guy that is the bust and all wish we didn't miss on the other...or maybe no one is a bust...

The point is rude comments intended to shut down opinions or any meaningful discussions should not be encouraged. It's fine and welcomed to disagree. Most people who create a post want others to disagree...but the rudeness isn't what we should be doing over differing opinions...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Although I like the original NIN version...I really like this one more and it seems to fit

 

[bsheeern]

He didn't make a definitive projection on either.
He is concerned that Ramsey may just end up being average while Zeke is great....I am not sold on either and I have concerns both ways. As fans we should all be concerned that we will pick the guy that is the bust and all wish we didn't miss on the other...or maybe no one is a bust...

The point is rude comments intended to shut down opinions or any meaningful discussions should not be encouraged. It's fine and welcomed to disagree. Most people who create a post want others to disagree...but the rudeness isn't what we should be doing over differing opinions...

Yeah he did.

 

[The Natural]

I wasn't trying to answer it. I'm just jumping in on the conversation and talking about the risk factor. Zeke has next to no risk as the pick, Ramsey has significant risk based on how hard it is for DB's to adapt to the NFL and how hard it is for a DB to succeed with a lackluster front 7.

all picks have risks. There's no such thing as a no risk pick.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Jammer wasn't nearly the athlete nor had the versatility of Ramsey. What scouts really loved about Jammer was that he was super tough on jams and was a great tackler for a corner. But, he speed wasn't the best and he was relegated to playing on the outside. I can envision Ramsey playing any spot in the defensive backfield including the slot.




YR

 

[superonyx]

LOL, How was I rude? I just asked what his previous results were on projecting NFL careers.

Seriously dude you were rude and you intended to be rude. What are any of our previous results and credentials to make any projections or to even have opinions.
This kind of reply could be rudely used in almost every thread on the forum but people know it's just a rude response.

 

[Western]

To justify Ramsey at no. 4, that dude has to be a game-changer - numerous decisive interceptions during the year, damaging hits that jar the ball out of the receivers/running back hands which causes fumbles or incompletions, crucial timely deflections on passing attempts, touchdown returns on either interceptions or special teams, many tackles behind the line of scrimmage, & a vocal in-your face team leader.

Not quite sure his past record at FSU demonstrates the above requirements.

But hey, he can sure run fast, jump high, perform well in the 3-cone drill, 20-yard shuttle, & boy, he physically 'resembles' Patrick Peterson/Deion Sanders -- so yea, it is no brainier he must be the pick at no. 4.

 

[ChooChoo73]

Amazing how the Zeke at 4 posts come in so many different forms but you can smell all of them from a mile away. Ridiculous baseless post.

 

[bsheeern]

Seriously dude you were rude and you intended to be rude. What are any of our previous results and credentials to make any projections or to even have opinions.
This kind of reply could be rudely used in almost every thread on the forum but people know it's just a rude response.

if I have an opinion of a college draft pick, and I want to discuss it, then I usually use term like "He reminds me of" or "he has similar traits to". I never say terms like " passing on Emmitt Smith to draft Quentin Jammer".

 

[robjay04]

all picks have risks. There's no such thing as a no risk pick.

Sure...the main risk with Zeke is that he gets injured because running backs get injured. Ramsey has more risk.

 

[Cowboys22]

I'd rather take Elliot over Ramsey because I simply don't trust this coaching staff to use Ramsey properly and get him to have a big impact. I see too much chance for another Mo situation. I remember that draft. Mo was said to be a can't miss prospect and as safe a pick as you could make in that draft. He came to Dallas and didn't develop. I don't really care why but some of it has to go to the coaching staff. I think they will use Elliot properly mostly because It will be a no brainier to hand him the ball 20-25 times a game and I trust Romo to get him involved in the passing game. I just think Elliot is the one that will have the biggest impact because RB is the easiest not to screw up. It sucks to feel that way about the coaching staff but I do. I just see them screwing Ramsey up by going back and forth between CB and safety, playing man one week and zone the next, and next thing you know he's a carbon copy of Mo and we're all wondering how and why it happened as we watch Elliot score his 4th TD of the day against our still crappy defense.

 

[Swanny]

I don't get why some seem to be getting so upset about if we get Ramsey or Zeke. I prefer Ramsey but Zeke will be exciting too. We are in a win win situation. Either we get Ramsey, Zeke, Tunsil, Buckner or Bosa. All of those picks I will be delighted with.

 

[superonyx]

if I have an opinion of a college draft pick, and I want to discuss it, then I usually use term like "He reminds me of" or "he has similar traits to". I never say terms like " passing on Emmitt Smith to draft Quentin Jammer".

I get it but it's still the same in the end. Sure people can soften their analysis with making sure they say certain things....but even if they just come right out and say they think a certain player will suck and it will be the worst draft pick in our teams history, and you completely disagree then say so. But trying to discredit them by asking them for qualifications that no one here could or should have to possess is being rude. We are all just fans of the same team. It's not like we are Eagles fans.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We will all marvel at his athleticism as he continually allow receivers to get separation in space! We will not care that in order to be Ed Reed, you need to have Ed Reed instincts, because we have got an ATHLETE in the secondary! Look at him run after that WR!

And this is something that really annoys me. So when Ed Reed was drafted....how many people scouted that he had GREAT INSTINCTS and was on his way to being the best safety in the draft. Because he went late into the 1st round. If this was back then you guys would've said pass up Ed Reed because he wasn't Ronnie Lott.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't get why some seem to be getting so upset about if we get Ramsey or Zeke. I prefer Ramsey but Zeke will be exciting too. We are in a win win situation. Either we get Ramsey, Zeke, Tunsil, Buckner or Bosa. All of those picks I will be delighted with.

That's my stance as well. I don't understand why there is a either or. Both can help this team. And both will be great picks.