Jameill Showers Should Make The 53

Vaughn is obviously a gamer and had he had a RT worth a crap might have played even better.

As for Showers, he's a player we would have rooted for 3-4 years ago as a specialist "project". But those days are over. We have too much talent now to waste on hopefuls!
 
darthseinfeld said:
One never really knows. I can count on 5,000 different pairs of hands the different times Ive been wrong
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Myself, for now Vaughn will get a chance to prove himself. I'm not down on Showers I just have a hard time believing that a kid whose showed little in the college ranks is all of a sudden going to blossom into an NFL QB. One big hint who puts their potential QB on a coverage unit on special teams?
 
Aven8 said:
Vaughn is obviously a gamer and had he had a RT worth a crap might have played even better.

As for Showers, he's a player we would have rooted for 3-4 years ago as a specialist "project". But those days are over. We have too much talent now to waste on hopefuls!
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I didn't see showers play so I can't comment. But if he show promise we gotta find a way to keep him around. I also think Vaughan needs to bulk up another 20-30 lbs.
 
Idgit said:
Escobar's a player. I don't care what anybody says. All he does is catch what you throw him and make it look easy.
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Exactly Idgit and for the life of me can't understand how some fans preferably Steven Van Over, over at BTB saying that he may be replaced if he doesn't start to show up and I'm like what does he or any other fan that thinks this way are really looking for he is a perfect fit for this offense and as long as Witten is playing then they will give us Escobar in doses but he does make those catches look easy.

If the team were to cut him and let's just say if Witten was to get injured for a period of time during the season does Van Over think teams will fear Swaim because that would be the only TE left in the Witten/Escobar mold well he and fans who want Escobar gone because he didn't live up to the "hype" needs to pump the breaks because I don't see Gavin going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Doomsday101 said:
Myself, for now Vaughn will get a chance to prove himself. I'm not down on Showers I just have a hard time believing that a kid whose showed little in the college ranks is all of a sudden going to blossom into an NFL QB. One big hint who puts their potential QB on a coverage unit on special teams?
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Showers to me is a CFL guy. And he mau even take a year or two to develop before he is ready to play there
 
ringmaster said:
Exactly Idgit and for the life of me can't understand how some fans preferably Steven Van Over, over at BTB saying that he may be replaced if he doesn't start to show up and I'm like what does he or any other fan that thinks this way are really looking for he is a perfect fit for this offense and as long as Witten is playing then they will give us Escobar in doses but he does make those catches look easy.

If the team were to cut him and let's just say if Witten was to get injured for a period of time during the season does Van Over think teams will fear Swaim because that would be the only TE left in the Witten/Escobar mold well he and fans who want Escobar gone because he didn't live up to the "hype" needs to pump the breaks because I don't see Gavin going anywhere anytime soon.
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Since he has been drafted Ive heard nothing but good things about Escobars offseason work habits. I heard he and Witten were joined at the hip last offseason
 
darthseinfeld said:
Since he has been drafted Ive heard nothing but good things about Escobars offseason work habits. I heard he and Witten were joined at the hip last offseason
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Yes so did I and the stuff we keep hearing is that he knows how to run good routes, run blocking is improving but still a work in progress in that regard, etc he's as close to a Witten clone that you're going to get and from the looks of things will be the heir apparent when Witten hangs it up glad fans are not running the team because if they were guys like Romo for example wouldn't be here.
 
casmith07 said:
He has shown more in practice and in this game than any other churned developmental quarterback we've had since Romo was on the team.

We need to keep this guy around. Vaughan looks okay, but Showers is dynamic and has a better arm.

Keep him. See if he develops, because if he does he has the potential to be really good, IMO.

#ShowerPower
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To be honest. I didnt like both of them.

Showers seemed to move much better then Vaughn and that is something that catches the audience's eyes. But as a passer he has alot to learn. To me he was nearly a no show.

Showers threw 2 (or 3) passes to the sideline which had to be INTs (with better CB play). He threw the balls at covered WRs, not at the needed point and missed alot of zip to fit them into the right spot.

If i had to keep one of them in the cost of cutting for example a CB (White or Patmon) i'd stick with the later. To be more clear: Those two dont showed me enough to consider them better then other positions that are on the bubble (Swaim or Hanna is another example).
 
ringmaster said:
Exactly Idgit and for the life of me can't understand how some fans preferably Steven Van Over, over at BTB saying that he may be replaced if he doesn't start to show up and I'm like what does he or any other fan that thinks this way are really looking for he is a perfect fit for this offense and as long as Witten is playing then they will give us Escobar in doses but he does make those catches look easy.

If the team were to cut him and let's just say if Witten was to get injured for a period of time during the season does Van Over think teams will fear Swaim because that would be the only TE left in the Witten/Escobar mold well he and fans who want Escobar gone because he didn't live up to the "hype" needs to pump the breaks because I don't see Gavin going anywhere anytime soon.
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We've got 4 legit TEs right now. At least it's looking that way to me. Not sure what the plan might be, and I still find it puzzling that they traded an extra pick to draft Swaim. They seem to like that he can play the Y, and I suspect they aren't going to want to expose him.

That means cutting or trading Hanna or Escobar, and both those guys can play. Hanna's the more obvious choice, as he's a better all around player and he's closer to FA. He'd actually be reasonable bait at cut-downs if there's a team with a player we like in need of a TE. If not that, though, everybody knows we're not carrying four TEs into the season, so we don't have any leverage.

And, yeah, I can watch Escobar catch passes all day. He just plucks the ball out of the air with those soft paws. It's kind of fun to see. I'm sort of surprised he's not a guy that fans actually love and clamor for, now that Witten's getting up there in years, honestly.
 
Back to the thread topic, I logged in after the game expecting to see everybody hyping up Vaughan beyond a level I was personally comfortable with. Of the two players (I didn't get to see much of Weeden because of the NFLN coverage), Vaughan clearly had the better performance. He hung in there and delivered some tough balls, and everything he threw was on-target. He extended drives on big plays, including that 3rd and 17 and the drive where they were pinned back at the goal line. He had a couple of drives outright killed by drops and one on a badly whiffed 3rd down protection. The other sack he gave up was when both OTs got beat at the same time.

I though the locked onto his receivers a bit, but, other than that, he looked good to me. So good, that I'd start giving him as many reps as I could and diminish both Weeden's and Showers' playing time to get Vaughan further along. If he plays well enough with more reps, I'd at least consider using that extra QB spot on another player.

So, that said, I was surprised to see so much support for Showers when I checked in. The guy carries himself well and is athletic, but, man, he needs a lot of work as an NFL passer. He's got 'practice squad' written all over him.
 
Idgit said:
We've got 4 legit TEs right now. At least it's looking that way to me. Not sure what the plan might be, and I still find it puzzling that they traded an extra pick to draft Swaim. They seem to like that he can play the Y, and I suspect they aren't going to want to expose him.

That means cutting or trading Hanna or Escobar, and both those guys can play. Hanna's the more obvious choice, as he's a better all around player and he's closer to FA. He'd actually be reasonable bait at cut-downs if there's a team with a player we like in need of a TE. If not that, though, everybody knows we're not carrying four TEs into the season, so we don't have any leverage.

And, yeah, I can watch Escobar catch passes all day. He just plucks the ball out of the air with those soft paws. It's kind of fun to see. I'm sort of surprised he's not a guy that fans actually love and clamor for, now that Witten's getting up there in years, honestly.
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They have carried 4 TEs in the past haven't they?
 
windjc said:
Oh right like Russell Wilson. I really thought he was going to make in this league. Big disappointment there. You're right.
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Wilson is HIGHLY overrated. He was gawd awful against Dallas last year, and even worse against the Packers. He's a bus driver.

Romo would have won three Super Bowls there by now.
 
speedkilz88 said:
They have carried 4 TEs in the past haven't they?
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Have they? I remember them talking about whether or not they might, but I thought they didn't. I guess if they want to cut a FB, they could. Though to justify when you're carrying 3 QBs, though.
 
erod said:
Wilson is HIGHLY overrated. He was gawd awful against Dallas last year, and even worse against the Packers. He's a bus driver.

Romo would have won three Super Bowls there by now.
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Oh, so you wouldn't have Wilson on the team as a backup? Ok, keep digging that ditch brother!
 
Given his background, I guess Showers did okay for his 1st NFL game.

Just re-watched his portion.
2 drops
2 not picked that could have been.
Still, we're talking 4th string going in, so not terrible by any means.
 
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