Jason Campbell

[streetcredit]

Anyone that compares Campbell to Quincy Carter is purely ignorant.

True...Quincy put up similar numbers while be stoned

 

[Yeagermeister]

True...Quincy put up similar numbers while be stoned

:laugh2:

 

[Sonny#9]

Says the guy on his biggest rivals message board.

What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?

 

[Rampage]

those uniforms are so ugly with those colors. every time i see skins uniforms i just wanna puke like mcnabb.

 

[Sonny#9]

Alright, give me why they can't be compared. Or is it just that you have a "feeling"? Give me some defense of your QB other than having a feeling. If it makes you feel better, I will compare him to Boller. The point is still the same.

In Carter's only season as a staring QB, he threw 57.8% 3300 yards 17 TDs to 21 INTs, when the division wasn't nearly what it is now.

Campbell was on pace to surpass him in just about every category, facing much tougher competition last year. 60% passing, 2700 yards, 12 TD, 11 INT in 13 games.

Carter was out of the league a year later -- and don't tell me it was b/c of the drug charges. We've seen time and time again that players are give upteen chances -- usually with the Cowboys -- given they have the talent. Carter didn't. He played in 7 games with the Jets and was done.

I'll make a bet with anyone here who wants to take it. Injuries aside -- if Campbell is out of the league next year for performance issues, I will never post again here. The Mods can ban me. If not, you leave. Banned. Any takers?

 

[cobra]

In Carter's only season as a staring QB, he threw 57.8% 3300 yards 17 TDs to 21 INTs, when the division wasn't nearly what it is now.

Campbell was on pace to surpass him in just about every category, facing much tougher competition last year. 60% passing, 2700 yards, 12 TD, 11 INT in 13 games.

So because QCampbell's stats are marginally better than Quincy Carter's, the comparison is IMPOSSIBLE and IGNORANT? Is that what you are saying? Despite the similar backgrounds, athletic ability, strengths, and weakness, you have deemed it ignorant to compare to the two due to a marginal difference in stats?

Wow, you're funny stupid, man.

Actually, you're just probably pissed off because your POS QB--who your franchise has invested multiple draft picks and its future in--is more closely comparable to some guy sucked so bad he is out of the league than he is comparable to our UFA legit franchise qb.

Sucks to be a Skins' fan, eh?

 

[Velvet Jones]

In Carter's only season as a staring QB, he threw 57.8% 3300 yards 17 TDs to 21 INTs, when the division wasn't nearly what it is now.

Campbell was on pace to surpass him in just about every category, facing much tougher competition last year. 60% passing, 2700 yards, 12 TD, 11 INT in 13 games.

Carter was out of the league a year later -- and don't tell me it was b/c of the drug charges. We've seen time and time again that players are give upteen chances -- usually with the Cowboys -- given they have the talent. Carter didn't. He played in 7 games with the Jets and was done.

I'll make a bet with anyone here who wants to take it. Injuries aside -- if Campbell is out of the league next year for performance issues, I will never post again here. The Mods can ban me. If not, you leave. Banned. Any takers?

I am not comparing his drug issues. My comparison is flashes of talent followed by levies of mediocrity. And your numbers don't look too far off for a comparison to be made. You call us out as not being able to be unbias but you still have Campbell's taint sweat on your chin. To call Campbell anything other than a hope is laughable. I would love to see this thread again in two years when Campbell is on another team. I want to see your love for him then.

 

[Sonny#9]

So because QCampbell's stats are marginally better than Quincy Carter's, the comparison is IMPOSSIBLE and IGNORANT? Is that what you are saying? Despite the similar backgrounds, athletic ability, strengths, and weakness, you have deemed it ignorant to compare to the two due to a marginal difference in stats?

Wow, you're funny stupid, man.

Actually, you're just probably pissed off because your POS QB--who your franchise has invested multiple draft picks and its future in--is more closely comparable to some guy sucked so bad he is out of the league than he is comparable to our UFA legit franchise qb.

Sucks to be a Skins' fan, eh?

Ah...how did I know you were going to pop up?

Put your money where your mouth is. Take my bet. Otherwise beat it, son, grown-ups are talking.

 

[Sonny#9]

I am not comparing his drug issues. My comparison is flashes of talent followed by levies of mediocrity. And your numbers don't look too far off for a comparison to be made. You call us out as not being able to be unbias but you still have Campbell's taint sweat on your chin. To call Campbell anything other than a hope is laughable. I would love to see this thread again in two years when Campbell is on another team. I want to see your love for him then.

And you know what -- I'll do what so many on here can't. I'll admit I'm wrong. I still have a lot of faith in Campbell. And if you're so sure he's Carter all over, take my bet.

 

[Bizwah]

And after 20 games he was 320/568 for 3366 yds 14tds and 31ints. Obviously the only reason he stuck around is that the Cowboys knew he had potential to be great.

Let's remember that in Aikman's first two years, the Cowboys had little talent. He was thrown to the wolves as a rookie....No "grooming" process was given to him. Aikman's first year in the NFL was spent on a team with virtually no talent. We went 1-15. Aikman was 0-11 as a starter. In his second year, Emmitt arrived (a rookie) and Irvin was just coming off major knee surgery.

The point is that Campbell has played with a Pro-Bowl RB, LT, TE, and a decent WR. That's more than Aikman had in his first two seasons as a starter. He also had the opportunity to sit and watch a real NFL QB play.

Comparing Aikman to Campbell just doesn't wash.

Now, I think Campbell can develop into a solid QB. I think he'll have great games followed by good games, followed by poor games....I don't know if he'll be a great QB. But then again, there are very few great QBs in the NFL anymore. Good QBs are swept up by NFL teams.

 

[DCBoysfan]

And you know what -- I'll do what so many on here can't. I'll admit I'm wrong. I still have a lot of faith in Campbell. And if you're so sure he's Carter all over, take my bet.

I for one want Campbell around for a long time, the way he is going he may never have a winning record

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Let's remember that in Aikman's first two years, the Cowboys had little talent. He was thrown to the wolves as a rookie....No "grooming" process was given to him. Aikman's first year in the NFL was spent on a team with virtually no talent. We went 1-15. Aikman was 0-11 as a starter. In his second year, Emmitt arrived (a rookie) and Irvin was just coming off major knee surgery.

The point is that Campbell has played with a Pro-Bowl RB, LT, TE, and a decent WR. That's more than Aikman had in his first two seasons as a starter. He also had the opportunity to sit and watch a real NFL QB play.

Comparing Aikman to Campbell just doesn't wash.

Now, I think Campbell can develop into a solid QB. I think he'll have great games followed by good games, followed by poor games....I don't know if he'll be a great QB. But then again, there are very few great QBs in the NFL anymore. Good QBs are swept up by NFL teams.

I agree, my point was not to say that Campbell is as good as Aikman - just that when evaluating potential you have to look past the stats.

 

[redskins1]

So because QCampbell's stats are marginally better than Quincy Carter's, the comparison is IMPOSSIBLE and IGNORANT? Is that what you are saying? Despite the similar backgrounds, athletic ability, strengths, and weakness, you have deemed it ignorant to compare to the two due to a marginal difference in stats?

Wow, you're funny stupid, man.

Actually, you're just probably pissed off because your POS QB--who your franchise has invested multiple draft picks and its future in--is more closely comparable to some guy sucked so bad he is out of the league than he is comparable to our UFA legit franchise qb.

Sucks to be a Skins' fan, eh?

I like to compare campbell to romo myself,campbell has the same amount of playoff wins and superbowl apperances as romo..neck n neck!!

 

[Sonny#9]

I for one want Campbell around for a long time, the way he is going he may never have a winning record

This coming from the guy who looked up Gullible in the dictionary...

 

[streetcredit]

How many years are the skins fans going to give him....statistically he has shown nothing and when I watch Campbell play, it seems that he cannot throw the ball down field....Anybody know how many completions he has of 10 yards or more (without including YAC)? And how it compares to the rest of the league.

 

[Sonny#9]

....statistically he has shown nothing and when I watch Campbell play, it seems that he cannot throw the ball down field....

Actually he throws a very strong deep ball...

 

[zrinkill]

What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?

Everything .....

You have been on this board for over 2 years. Yet you still act surprised when people take shots at the Commander QB and at you even though you in the past have admitted to just starting topics to "stir $$$$ up" (ala trolling)

Trolls from ES are always gonna have a hard time over here. And once they admit it, will find some posters never able to have "civil" discussions or give Commander players the benefit of the doubt.

Personally I think Campbell is an above average young QB with lots of potential.

Now would I admit that to a Commander troll who constantly takes veiled shots at my Cowboys?

Just this once I will.

 

[streetcredit]

I like to compare campbell to romo myself,campbell has the same amount of playoff wins and superbowl apperances as romo..neck n neck!!

Well, by your logic, you should compare Campbell to me as well....although, I think I'm more accurate.

 

[Bizwah]

How many years are the skins fans going to give him....statistically he has shown nothing and when I watch Campbell play, it seems that he cannot throw the ball down field....Anybody know how many completions he has of 10 yards or more (without including YAC)? And how it compares to the rest of the league.

Actually, Campbell throws a great deep ball.

It's the intermediate throws that seem to trouble him. He doesn't throw the deep outs too well.

He also seems to dink and dunk a lot. That explains why it took him 54 attempts to throw his 300+ yards against us.

Now that may be due to what Gibbs and Co wanted him to do. There was a lot of talk from Skins fans that Gibbs sort of "handcuffed" Campbell.

I dont' know....

But his deep ball is his strength.

 

[zrinkill]

I like to compare campbell to romo myself,campbell has the same amount of playoff wins and superbowl apperances as romo..neck n neck!!

See Sonny ..... this is exactly what I am talking about .... and unfortunately for you this idiot usually tries backing you up in threads.

Which just makes whatever point you are trying to get across harder to do.