Jason Garrett as future HC does he compare to Payton ?

[Chocolate Lab]

I have been told he wants to go for kill shots on both sides of the ball. He prefers applying pressure to the other team to force them into mistakes.

That's one of those things that sounds great in a speech, but what does it really mean? Far more mistakes on O and big plays given up on D.

And to some other posts, Capers wouldn't be here anymore anyway, because someone would've hired him as a DC.

But it's funny people would lament that anyway after the way Green Bay's defense lost their playoff game for them in embarrassing fashion just a few weeks after Big Ben hung half a thousand yards on them.

 

[Alexander]

But it's funny people would lament that anyway after the way their D lost their playoff game for them in embarrassing fashion... Not to mention Big Ben's half a thousand yards he hung on them.

Capers also had to deal with some significant injuries in the secondary which resulted in the games they had late in the season. Before that, they were humming along fairly well.

 

[Alexander]

Didn't Romo state in the PC later that that was actually the play-call?

If he did, I missed that.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Capers also had to deal with some significant injuries in the secondary which resulted in the games they had late in the season. Before that, they were humming along fairly well.

As I've read a million times here, injuries are no excuse. They sure weren't for us last year.

And we didn't have the defensive MVP, either.

 

[Jimz31]

I agree Garrett has been hampered by the lack of a second WR on the team. There's no doubt about that. I think the OL has not been as big a problem. In fact only the Denver, GB, and MN game was a problem for the OL.

Whatever the problems are its not getting enough attention IMO. We left 140 points on the field this year. That's closer to 31 points per game than 22 and that's a huge difference. Some of that has to be on play calling and game planning.

I can agree with this but who's fault is it? Is JJ telling the OC and Wade who is to play? If so, it's JJ's fault, but these guys also need to say that those other guys that JJ is telling them to play are hampering the teams ability to put points up.

Is JJ telling the coaches to play MBIII over FJ? I remember back when JJ said that he wants FJ to get more carries....that happened for the BEGINNING of the game but when all was said and done, MBIII had more carries that game as well. It was only towards the end of the season that FJ was getting more attention....that goes to personnel decisions in-game that need fixed.

Do I believe that Garrett can make those changes? Yes. I wondered what took him so long with Felix, but it SEEMED to happen finally. It took an injury for Austin to become a full-time starter...but at least it happened.

The way that I feel about how this season progressed: We got ALOT better in the second half of the season....we had players like Austin and Free show that they can get it done. We see O-Tree getting on the field more which alot of players wanted and to me, there is something about him....

We were second in yards but middle of the pack in points...while I don't like that of course, I think that we can still be a top 5 yards per game and top 10 points per game team next year with some LITTLE changes that I think ARE being made....and I'll give credit to JG for this.

 

[Jimz31]

If he did, I missed that.

I also thought it was an audible at the time, but I remember that being said.

 

[Alexander]

I have been told he wants to go for kill shots on both sides of the ball. He prefers applying pressure to the other team to force them into mistakes.

That is basically what he was doing in the first Giants game but was lambasted for Romo's miscues.

 

[Arch Stanton]

I have been told he wants to go for kill shots on both sides of the ball. He prefers applying pressure to the other team to force them into mistakes.

This sounds like a little of Jimmy has rubbed off on him. If JG can time the taking of those shots then they can be huge momentum changers. Jimmy knew when to take those shots, but then he had the players and the confidence in them.

 

[Hostile]

That is basically what he was doing in the first Giants game but was lambasted for Romo's miscues.

That is a very valid point that I had not considered.

I know at least one Defensive player who thinks when Garrett is the Head Coach that we will be an attacking constantly Defense and he is excited about the prospect.

I think his progress is fairly positive in the overall outlook for this teams' future if he ever does assume the mantle.

 

[Hostile]

This sounds like a little of Jimmy has rubbed off on him. If JG can time the taking of those shots then they can be huge momentum changers. Jimmy knew when to take those shots, but then he had the players and the confidence in them.

Personally, I think it is a lot of Jimmy that has rubbed off.

 

[Alexander]

As I've read a million times here, injuries are no excuse. They sure weren't for us last year.

They aren't. But to pretend that it did not have a significant impact on how their pass defense took a nosedive is absurd. We would not function very well with the likes of Alan Ball playing cornerback against Pittsburgh and Arizona either. Capers would have been a quality hire who frankly is exactly what Garrett would need if/when he takes over a team, any team.

And we didn't have the defensive MVP, either.

A cornerback is limited on what he can do, MVP or not. Woodson could not cover two other players.

 

[Alexander]

This sounds like a little of Jimmy has rubbed off on him. If JG can time the taking of those shots then they can be huge momentum changers. Jimmy knew when to take those shots, but then he had the players and the confidence in them.

Coach Johnson also had world class talent. Garrett simply does not. He does not have the QB, the RB, the line or the WRs. Good luck trying to take kill shots with the likes of Williams, Crayton and Hurd.

The only issue I have is that sometimes he shows too much faith in the intellectual capacity of the players on this roster to execute what he calls. That is what he has to learn, that is where he needs to improve.

A great coach knows the limitations of what he has to work with and uses that to his best advantage. A very good one gets frustrated when the execution is not there but continues on. Eventually the odds gets you good results the most of the time, which is about what Garrett is doing.

 

[smax]

Coach Johnson also had world class talent. Garrett simply does not. He does not have the QB, the RB, the line or the WRs. Good luck trying to take kill shots with the likes of Williams, Crayton and Hurd.

Obviously this group isn't quite as talented as our early-to-mid 90s group was, but this group did manage to rack up nearly 6400 yards of offense, including 2100 + on the ground.

Some say the offensive talent here is overrated, but we had 7 offensive players in the 2007/2008 pro bowl (3 OL) and the NFC won the game.

These guys are pretty good.

The problem I see is predictability in the red zone. A lot of times we announce our intentions by lining up in shotgun, or the wildcat formation, or something else that's obvious.

When we line up under center, the defense remains off balance and we are lot more effective.