Twitter: Jason Garrett explains Dez Bryant actions

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My guess is it's a bigger deal to people here than it is to anyone on the team. Easier to be a hard *** when you're a fan.

I agree. We all seem to be acting as though we have more information than we do. We have NO idea if this is any kind of issue in the locker room. We have NO idea how common this is. We have NO idea what's been said to or about Dez behind doors.

I get that we want our guys to be professionals, if not role models, but it's a business first and foremost and Dez Bryant is good for business. He sell jerseys, scores touchdowns, and make things easier for literally everyone else on the offense.

IF this is a big deal in the locker room, I hope they handle it accordingly. But it kind of feels like a big assumption at this point. If my co-worker no-shows, I still do my job. And my job as much higher standards than an NFL locker room (Because we're much less valuable, and thus much more replaceable).
 

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Garrett explained Dez's actions by using the "passion" excuse. Every time Dez doesn't handle something the right way it's always because he's passionate and loves football blah blah blah...it's getting old!


yes the precedent is set that you can get away with not being professional by using the "passionate" excuse.

oh i didnt show up to a corporate meeting because im very passionate and i was afraid to hear bad news today.

sure dude. i mean that might be true but thats not how u handle stuff if you're a professional getting paid more money than most people will make in 10 lifetimes.

these dudes are held to higher standard. its what they got themselves into. not our fault. it comes with the territory.
 

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Dez is a mental midget. He's like a kid in a mans body.
 

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i mean that might be true but thats not how u handle stuff if you're a professional getting paid more money than most people will make in 10 lifetimes.

Ideally, sure. But Dez and plenty of others don't act the way we expect or want them to. Teams still need to place a value on said players and determine whether the bad outweighs the good. I just don't see an argument for that being the case with Dez. He's had one bad year do to injury and awful QB play, and many are acting like he's a net negative, all of the sudden.
 

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yes the precedent is set that you can get away with not being professional by using the "passionate" excuse.

oh i didnt show up to a corporate meeting because im very passionate and i was afraid to hear bad news today.

sure dude. i mean that might be true but thats not how u handle stuff if you're a professional getting paid more money than most people will make in 10 lifetimes.

these dudes are held to higher standard. its what they got themselves into. not our fault. it comes with the territory.
Dez is paid what he is and is as good as he is because of his passion.
You speak of a corporate meeting. I have managed sales reps who are very passionate. I use that passion to get the best results from them. I have had reps who lost a big sale and couldn't bear to come to the team meeting where we were going to discuss sales numbers. I've let them miss the meeting because it would have been damaging to their moral because of the passion. Dez isn't an accounts payables clerk. His passion is what drives him. When you have an employee like that you understand them and you know how to work with them.
Stop pretending this is black and white.
 

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They are adults and will handle it in house without that garbage.. Public shaming and try to have an intervention over what exactly?

no public shaming. it might be true about dez being scared. understood. but you don't handle it publicly and show that you are weak and you give the "passionate" excuse. thats weak. very weak. i understand now who JG is or has been closed with describing or detailing in house situations. he gives a little and he shows weakness.

i mean passionate? really? thats what this professionals have to do to if they get in trouble? say they are passionate and then get fined? thats it?

if i worked for this business and made as much money as some of these employees do i would think that if i got in trouble i could use this excuse and get out of a bind easy.
 

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Dez is paid what he is and is as good as he is because of his passion.
You speak of a corporate meeting. I have managed sales reps who are very passionate. I use that passion to get the best results from them. I have had reps who lost a big sale and couldn't bear to come to the team meeting where we were going to discuss sales numbers. I've let them miss the meeting because it would have been damaging to their moral because of the passion. Dez isn't an accounts payables clerk. His passion is what drives him. When you have an employee like that you understand them and you know how to work with them.
Stop pretending this is black and white.

fair point. i can see what you are saying.

but still this is the NFL and its weak weak weak talk.

players can use passion as a way out now. you like that precedent or what? and you are right the world isnt black and white but apparently when it comes to money and the bottom line it is? oh its black and white when its convienent. i get it.
 

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He wouldnt have paid him for starters, so there wouldnt have been anything to talk about.


I promise you guys that Bill Belichick would give Dez a chance. He's signed plenty of guys like Moss, Bennett, Haynesworth, Mallet, Hernandez, Dennard, Dillon, Talib, Stallworth, and Blount who had issues in the past.

You guys kidding me with this? Many of these guys make Dez look like a model player.
 

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Ideally, sure. But Dez and plenty of others don't act the way we expect or want them to. Teams still need to place a value on said players and determine whether the bad outweighs the good. I just don't see an argument for that being the case with Dez. He's had one bad year do to injury and awful QB play, and many are acting like he's a net negative, all of the sudden.


i guess so. but i guess im just so used to the way certain "coaches in our past" handled this and the product on the field produced.

JG handles stuff differently and we are .500 champs. if his way work. or the way he is doing it worked and we were winning then i could care less. but we aren't we are perenially mediocore.

you want to build a climate to where passion is an excuse for letting your teamates down????
 

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you want to build a climate to where passion is an excuse for letting your teamates down????

Ideally, no. Ideally we're a team with the talent and structure in place to be more selective and stern. But in Garrett's shoes, yeah, I'd absolutely make exceptoins for Dez Bryant. He's one of our 5-7 best players and my job (winning) is much harder without him on the field. Once it gets so bad that he's no longer helping us win, then you have move on. But I don't think we're anywhere near that yet.

Our best case scenario this season is that we'll eventually be as good as the 2014 Cowboys. That team does not go 12-4 without Dez Bryant. That team doesn't win a playoff game wihtout Dez Bryant. When a guy is that important, you make exceptions and take the good with the bad.
 

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i understand the view that this isnt that big of a deal. and it shouldnt be. but sometimes these things can be a micro-point of a larger macro point or situation with this team.

sometimes you can look at spots on your skin or the color of your skin and know there might be a larger bigger underlying issue thats happening.

thats what im afraid of. the state of our team. stuff like this has been happening with this org. and we are .500 champs right now.

i cant help but connect the two with our perennial history of being mediocre. u got to understand that point right? if our history was different i wouldnt be so hesitant about this DEZ situation. id just brush it off easy.
 
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This is a joke right?

So now we are blaming expectations and demands of being a professional athlete for Bryant essentially disappearing from his employer for two days?

Note, I am not saying he should be cut, traded, whatever. But he deserves criticism. What he did was show immaturity, an issue that has plagued him from high school to now. I fail to see what's wrong with point this out.


Nothing wrong with pointing it out, but some people here seem to think he needs to be publicly flogged, and no matter what action Garrett takes, it's not enough.
 

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I promise you guys that Bill Belichick would give Dez a chance. He's signed plenty of guys like Moss, Bennett, Haynesworth, Mallet, Hernandez, Dennard, Dillon, Talib, Stallworth, and Blount who had issues in the past.

You guys kidding me with this? Many of these guys make Dez look like a model player.

Jimmy used to let "certain" players sleep in the team meetings while cutting others. The ones with talent get different treatment.
 

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Nothing wrong with pointing it out, but some people here seem to think he needs to be publicly flogged, and no matter what action Garrett takes, it's not enough.

not flogged. just dont look weak about accountability and use passion as an excuse (even if it was true).

JG says one thing about accountability and shows another.
 

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I promise you guys that Bill Belichick would give Dez a chance. He's signed plenty of guys like Moss, Bennett, Haynesworth, Mallet, Hernandez, Dennard, Dillon, Talib, Stallworth, and Blount who had issues in the past.

You guys kidding me with this? Many of these guys make Dez look like a model player.

Oh, he'd take a shot on Dez. But he also wouldn't tolerate a ton of what Dez does either. Look at your list and tell me how many on that list acted up or had an issue with Belicheck and survived for long there?

Moss was pretty much a model citizen by the time New England got him. He had no real issues in NE.

Haynesworth? NE traded for him, in less than four months they cut him because he got into an altercation with Pepper Johnson.

Blount seems to be the only one that seemingly has had some issues and has stuck (and re-stuck) with the Pats.
 

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Jimmy used to let "certain" players sleep in the team meetings while cutting others. The ones with talent get different treatment.


thats very true. very very true. those players produced and we were back to back champs.

if thats what JG is doing he only has .500 back to back to back champs to show for it.

if what JG is doing works and we werent in perennial mediocre landia than i could care less.
 
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