Twitter: Jason Garrett explains Dez Bryant actions

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Nothing wrong with pointing it out, but some people here seem to think he needs to be publicly flogged, and no matter what action Garrett takes, it's not enough.

I think Garrett needed to a bit more direct in his presser than just write off this as Dez being passionate Dez.

Garrett likes to talk about accountability and culture but then turns around gives a weak answer on what Dez did and then tries to excuse is a bit because Dez is "passionate".
 

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I think Garrett needed to a bit more direct in his presser than just write off this as Dez being passionate Dez.

Garrett likes to talk about accountability and culture but then turns around gives a weak answer on what Dez did and then tries to excuse is a bit because Dez is "passionate".

DEZ is a special player and i guess now he gets to use the passionate excuse while letting his teammates down. i guess its okay with folks around here?
 

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i guess so. but i guess im just so used to the way certain "coaches in our past" handled this and the product on the field produced.

JG handles stuff differently and we are .500 champs. if his way work. or the way he is doing it worked and we were winning then i could care less. but we aren't we are perenially mediocore.

you want to build a climate to where passion is an excuse for letting your teamates down????

Jimmy would never have benched a star for a week. He was too smart for that.

Jimmy Benched Michael for one series. They went three and out, and 88 was right back in. I believe it would have been longer, but for the three and out. What we do know is that, to every man on the team, losing was very uncomfortable. We as fans found that out afterwards. For all we know, there is more about this current team we'll one day find out after this time has gone, too.

I am curious, though, and maybe I missed something, but in what manner and which teammates did Dez let down?
 

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Oh, he'd take a shot on Dez. But he also wouldn't tolerate a ton of what Dez does either. Look at your list and tell me how many on that list acted up or had an issue with Belicheck and survived for long there?

Moss was pretty much a model citizen by the time New England got him. He had no real issues in NE.

Haynesworth? NE traded for him, in less than four months they cut him because he got into an altercation with Pepper Johnson.

Blount seems to be the only one that seemingly has had some issues and has stuck (and re-stuck) with the Pats.

We really have no idea. From the stuff that came out about Hernandez, they put up with quite a bit from him. But we're the Cowboys and social media is much different than it was even a few years ago, so it's impossible to say with much confidence. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's much more strict than Jerr...err...Garrett. But how he'd handle a guy like Dez Bryant missing a medical appointment, I have no idea.

And Belichick is in a different situation than Garrett. Bill has all the equity in the world and will have a job in NE as long as he wants it. He has a culture and system that can survive the loss of any one, non-Brady player. Not many guys could cut their young pro-bowlers if they wanted to. And not many guys would want to.
 

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Jimmy would never have benched a star for a week. He was too smart for that.

Jimmy Benched Michael for one series. They went three and out, and 88 was right back in. I believe it would have been longer, but for the three and out. What we do know is that, to every man on the team, losing was very uncomfortable. We as fans found that out afterwards. For all we know, there is more about this current team we'll one day find out after this time has gone, too.

I am curious, though, and maybe I missed something, but in what manner and which teammates did Dez let down?


good point. thanks for the discussion and rebuttal. i guess when you are late to meetings and go awol and use passion as an excuse for getting away with things? when other players cant and shouldnt.

DEZ is a team star. he is on a different level and should be a model for other players.

if DEZ can use passion to his excuse his unprofessional behavior and he is a franchise tag player ....hmmmmmmmm

DEZ is awsome! he is a great WR ( i know he gets a lot of stuff lately for his lack of availability now like TONY) but when he is in teams have to came plan around him or with him included. he makes us better. so dont get me wrong i know the value of DEZ.

again all this is said with the understanding the fact that we are perennial .500 champs.

if we werent then we wouldnt be having this discussion. stuff like this tells a lot about a culture. our culture is perennial .500 champs. not good.

i hope it changes. i look forward to it. but it hasnt yet.
 
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I think Garrett needed to a bit more direct in his presser than just write off this as Dez being passionate Dez.

Garrett likes to talk about accountability and culture but then turns around gives a weak answer on what Dez did and then tries to excuse is a bit because Dez is "passionate".

Have you ever considered that what happens in house stays in house? His job is not to impress reporters or fans at press conferences, it's to manage this team and win games. Dez has been fined and he's been talked to internally about the issue. Do we need to have a transcript of that conversation to confirm that it was "tough enough"?
 

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LOL @ Garrett letting the SF media know! haha the Dallas media are such babies.
 

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Fan forums typically are more tolerant of specific players than the sum.

i wouldnt mind of we were winning and not perennial .500 champs. i really wouldnt mind at all. this is the Dallas Cowboy we are talking about here. we should be above the rest. screw mediocrity. screw being average.
 

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Jimmy would never have benched a star for a week. He was too smart for that.

Jimmy Benched Michael for one series. They went three and out, and 88 was right back in. I believe it would have been longer, but for the three and out. What we do know is that, to every man on the team, losing was very uncomfortable. We as fans found that out afterwards. For all we know, there is more about this current team we'll one day find out after this time has gone, too.

I am curious, though, and maybe I missed something, but in what manner and which teammates did Dez let down?

I agree with you but not when it comes down to the comment of letting the team down. Yes he let his teammates down when he fails to report, you have to put team first and tow the line as everyone else does. This is not an individual game every player career depends on others. Dez is only going to be a great WR if the OL blocks and the QB is getting him the ball in spots where he can make the catch. When you are part of a team you put the team ahead of your own selfishness.

I don't expect him to be benched for a game but I do expect him to grow up and be a team player whose goals should be over all team success.
 

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When people claim that there is some dysfunction with this team and that at times it looks like there is no level of accountability around the program................ situations like this strength that opinion.

I didn't expect Garrett to come out and kill Bryant. But just saying, "he didn't handle it the right way" is a cop out answer and again shows that you have to wonder what the hell is going on behind the scenes around the Cowboys. You see it time and time again where the Cowboys defend their players dumb actions with minimal punishment and then magically, players continue to act stupidly.

Amazing how it always turns out that way.
You don't know how much he was fined. Garrett does not owe anyone any more details than that. Geez Louise.
 

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Have you ever considered that what happens in house stays in house? His job is not to impress reporters or fans at press conferences, it's to manage this team and win games. Dez has been fined and he's been talked to internally about the issue. Do we need to have a transcript of that conversation to confirm that it was "tough enough"?

Agree, what people on the outside looking in didn't see was Garrett whipping off his belt and putting Dez over his knee before finally sending him off to bed with no supper. Dez tried to argue with him, but had his mouth washed out with soap and lost TV privileges for a full week. Lesson learned the hard way.
 

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Have you ever considered that what happens in house stays in house? His job is not to impress reporters or fans at press conferences, it's to manage this team and win games. Dez has been fined and he's been talked to internally about the issue. Do we need to have a transcript of that conversation to confirm that it was "tough enough"?


i know u didnt ask me but im going to respond aynyways...

what JG said shows weakness. thats it. if what DEZ said was true and by all indications i can see that than JG shouldn't have excused it with this whole passion bit even if DEZ was true about it.

JG should have just been his closed robotic self. i understand now why he does this with the media. JG is cold and robotic and not colorful and i see the point in that even if its boring and id rather not listen to him. i understand why he would handle the media like he does.
 

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You don't know how much he was fined. Garrett does not owe anyone any more details than that. Geez Louise.

true but we got the passionate excuse. thats pretty graphic. i guess when you are as closed as JG is something like this is more highlighted. JG slipped with the passion talk. i would say oh i guess its okay and all but it hard to when he fosters a .500 environment. and true it doesnt help with a GM who is also an owner. i get the whole catch 22 thing.
 

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Have you ever considered that what happens in house stays in house? His job is not to impress reporters or fans at press conferences, it's to manage this team and win games. Dez has been fined and he's been talked to internally about the issue. Do we need to have a transcript of that conversation to confirm that it was "tough enough"?

Who said anything about impressing fans or reporters?
 

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good point. thanks for the discussion and rebuttal. i guess when you are late to meetings and go awol and use passion as an excuse for getting away with things? when other players cant and shouldnt.

DEZ is a team star. he is on a different level and should be a model for other players.

if DEZ can use passion to his excuse his unprofessional behavior and he is a franchise tag player ....hmmmmmmmm

DEZ is awsome! he is a great WR ( i know he gets a lot of stuff lately for his lack of availability now like TONY) but when he is in teams have to came plan around him or with him included. he makes us better. so dont get me wrong i know the value of DEZ.

again all this is said with the understanding the fact that we are perennial .500 champs.

if we werent then we wouldnt be having this discussion. stuff like this tells a lot about a culture. our culture is perennial .500 champs. not good.

i hope it changes. i look forward to it. but it hasnt yet.

Fair enough. Also, been thinking about your point some more, and I do see how it has impacted the coaching staff and their game planning. Of course, I am just speculating, but I can see how it could affect the team.

I think the .500 has many more dimensions than just culture. If anything, Garrett improved a really lax culture from Wade. If there is something I am sure of is his teams play hard and don't quit. They sure do have more than their share of stupidity, though.

Dez got fined. I'm really not sure what more the organization can or should do. Garrett's comments were to the press. We have no certain knowledge what has been said to the players.

Praise publicly and criticize privately. I don't don't think we'll find a leader or a student of leadership disagreeing with that.
 

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Who knows, JG might've fined him $1. Just like Jimmy, JG maybe has a set of rules for his stars and a set for the rest. Can we move on now? Reminds me of Planes, Trains and Automobiles. "Geez, when your kid spills his milk what do you do; slap him in the head?'
 

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No excuses. Every player fears a serious injury when they get hurt. But, that's no reason for them to miss meetings and important time for the team.
 
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