Jason Garrett's Strengths

[silvrNblue]

Yes you read the title correctly. I am sincerely trying to see the positives of JG as our head coach. What competitive advantage do you feel he brings to the organization?

Oh my, seriously?? Dude it is PLAIN as daylight, or sand in your shoes...we have us here in cowboy land THE #1, numero uno clappy clapper of the 21st century!!! Who can't see us winning it all having THAT as our strong point!

 

[Ddisco22]

Yes you read the title correctly. I am sincerely trying to see the positives of JG as our head coach. What competitive advantage do you feel he brings to the organization?

Just watched this
I'm glad to finally hear JG comment.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...s-unchanged-garrett-expecting-resolution-soon

 

[OmerV]

Your response is actually a bigger piece of garbage, b/c Garret is being treated as if his job was a lifetime appointment, and RESULTS are all that matter. ONE playoff win in 7 seasons has never been an acceptable bar for any franchise outside of Cincy, let alone the Dallas Cowboys. He should have been fired along with Wade since it was his offense that was killing the team. But, just like his QB coaching days in Miami, it was promotion time. The only reason Garret has a HC job in the NFL right now is b/c our owner took a shine to him. He never merited this job and is clearly overwhelmed by it.

Every young coach starts out treated as if he has a lifetime job, and yes, with Garrett that treatment has lasted longer with than with most, but that doesn't make it a lifetime job. It's ridiculous to act as if his job would be just as secure with 3 straight 4-12 seasons as it would be with 3 straight 12-4 seasons. Suggesting that is just emotion talking, and not reason.

The stuff about him getting the job before it was earned is true, but irrelevant to my point. It doesn't mean he will never be fired.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I gave links that explain the methodologies others used to measure player development. I didn’t think they were all that funny, but might have missed something.

And we’re in the top quartile of the league in terms of wins under Garrett. Including the rebuild seasons.

Garrett doesnt develop players here. That isnt his job. Who exactly did he develop by the way? Olineman? So what was he doing every day. Teaching them how to block?

Wins? You mean regular season wins? Please. Take away the two 3rd string wins against Philly and Garrett is nearly a 500 coach. And how many playoff wins? What percentile of the league are we in that regard?

Or you could just watch him coach game in and game out. Especially in the most important games. Win or go home type games. And what is his record there? 1-7?

Again you champion mediocrity and failure. And Garrett has had a legitimate franchise QB since the day he got here. What is his record without Romo saving his butt? Garrett would win maybe 20% of his games without a top 10 QB running the show for him. Its already been confirmed by current and former players under Romo that it was Romo running the offense here. Romo even demanded when he signed his new contract that he run it. Do you think that was because he loved the way Garrett was doing things?

And what happened to Dak last year once some key guys went down? How well did Garrett develop Dak last year? More like hung him out to dry. He is talking about doing THIS year what he should have been doing already. Changing the offense to suit Dak. We lost entire year because Garrett and his NEXT man up..........DO THINGS the same mantra cooked us down the tubes last year.

 

[OmerV]

Oh my, seriously?? Dude it is PLAIN as daylight, or sand in your shoes...we have us here in cowboy land THE #1, numero uno clappy clapper of the 21st century!!! Who can't see us winning it all having THAT as our strong point!

That's one of the dumbest posts I've read.

 

[OmerV]

Garrett doesnt develop players here. That isnt his job. Who exactly did he develop by the way? Olineman? So what was he doing every day. Teaching them how to block?

Wins? You mean regular season wins? Please. Take away the two 3rd string wins against Philly and Garrett is nearly a 500 coach. And how many playoff wins? What percentile of the league are we in that regard?

Or you could just watch him coach game in and game out. Especially in the most important games. Win or go home type games. And what is his record there? 1-7?

Again you champion mediocrity and failure. And Garrett has had a legitimate franchise QB since the day he got here. What is his record without Romo saving his butt? Garrett would win maybe 20% of his games without a top 10 QB running the show for him. Its already been confirmed by current and former players under Romo that it was Romo running the offense here. Romo even demanded when he signed his new contract that he run it. Do you think that was because he loved the way Garrett was doing things?

And what happened to Dak last year once some key guys went down? How well did Garrett develop Dak last year? More like hung him out to dry. He is talking about doing THIS year what he should have been doing already. Changing the offense to suit Dak. We lost entire year because Garrett and his NEXT man up..........DO THINGS the same mantra cooked us down the tubes last year.

It actually is his job to develop players, just as it is the CEO of Exxon's job to develop new technologies and discover new oil fields. The work is just delegated.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sounds more like you’re having troubles separating the factors that have to come together for a team to make a legitimate playoff run from where I’m sitting, but who’s to say?

Waaaaaay too many factors have to happen for Garrett to have success in the playoffs. One of which includes overcoming his own shortcoming as a head coach. From where I am sitting, Garrett had it all set up in 2016 for a deep playoff run. And another time with Romo. Be blew both of them by making the EXACT same blunders against Rogers and GB. EXACT same blunders.

But no doubt you will come up with some pawn of apologist excuse for him. Like "Rogers has done that to many teams". LOL

 

[CowboyRoy]

That presumes he does something to get fired.

How many would offer him a job if he wins the Super Bowl? See how that works?

In your Garrett cuddle cove, that analogy probably makes sense to you. Garrett has done MANY things to be fired. His entire career. And case and point, he has NEVER come close to winning a SB. Maybe in your little cuddle cove Garret is winning SB's.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He has a winning record so it would be several

Ah, a homer true and true. So you are big fan of Garretts eh? Its not like it wasnt obvious. I just want to confirm it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would think the biggest argument against player development this offseason is that the position coaches were used as the scapegoats. They are the ones actually doing the development and apparently they weren’t doing a good enough job.

That makes too much sense. Please stop. LOL

 

[CowboyRoy]

It’s a fair argument. We’ve still had a lot of success with our draft picks relative to the rest of the league.

Whatever the beef was between Linehan and the other offensive coaches, we haven’t heard the details yet. There’s a juicy story there somewhere. I don’t think it’s that the position coaches couldn’t coach. I think they lost a power struggle of some sort.

Actually the reasoning is very simple and obvious. 2017 was an horror show of epic proportions. Someone had to be blamed. Huge changes had to be made. And since we all know it wasnt going to be Garrett it had to be the others. Seems that Linehan and Marinelli have the same pass that Garrett gets from Jones.

 

[OmerV]

How many teams would offer him a job if he got fired?

No coach that gets fired is immediately offered a new head coaching gig, but Garrett would get job offers to coach in some capacity. From there he would have to work his way up to have a chance at another head job in the future.

 

[OmerV]

I would think the biggest argument against player development this offseason is that the position coaches were used as the scapegoats. They are the ones actually doing the development and apparently they weren’t doing a good enough job.

If they weren't doing a good enough job, how is letting them go using them as scapegoats?

 

[CowboyRoy]

It actually is his job to develop players, just as it is the CEO of Exxon's job to develop new technologies and discover new oil fields. The work is just delegated.

LOL............So I see you have no idea how things operate in the real world. So when a new salesman comes into the company who trains him? You think the CEO does? WRONG!!!!

But lets take you laughable comment and apply that to the Cowboys. So Garrett delegates things to all the people under him. So how many of those people got fired and replaced this year? So do you think Garrett was as pleased as you were with the work they were doing "delegating" and "developing"?

 

[OmerV]

Waaaaaay too many factors have to happen for Garrett to have success in the playoffs. One of which includes overcoming his own shortcoming as a head coach. From where I am sitting, Garrett had it all set up in 2016 for a deep playoff run. And another time with Romo. Be blew both of them by making the EXACT same blunders against Rogers and GB. EXACT same blunders.

But no doubt you will come up with some pawn of apologist excuse for him. Like "Rogers has done that to many teams". LOL

The word "epic" is way overused.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No coach that gets fired is immediately offered a new head coaching gig, but Garrett would get job offers to coach in some capacity. From there he would have to work his way up to have a chance at another head job in the future.

Garrett would be better served going down the college ranks and learn football and coaching. His clapping would also be better suited there.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If they weren't doing a good enough job, how is letting them go using them as scapegoats?

How do you know it was THEM not doing a good job? How do you it wasnt the top guys?

 

[CowboyRoy]

It actually is his job to develop players, just as it is the CEO of Exxon's job to develop new technologies and discover new oil fields. The work is just delegated.

But you do bring up a good point. "new technologies". What "new technique, or schemes" has Garrett come up with in regard to his "genius" mind? His offenses are old and stale, boring and predictable. He is always catching up instead of ahead of the curve. Garrett is useless.

 

[OmerV]

LOL............So I see you have no idea how things operate in the real world. So when a new salesman comes into the company who trains him? You think the CEO does? WRONG!!!!

But lets take you laughable comment and apply that to the Cowboys. So Garrett delegates things to all the people under him. So how many of those people got fired and replaced this year? So do you think Garrett was as pleased as you were with the work they were doing "delegating" and "developing"?

lol - no you don't get it, and apparently you need to look up the word "delegate" to understand what I wrote.

I'll explain it to you - to delegate means to hire someone to get the job done that you need to get done.

The point is, Garrett is responsible for everything, regardless of whether he directly teaches something, or hires others to do so.

In your example, the CEO doesn't train, but he is still responsible for selling the product. That's his charge, and the way he does it is by hiring and managing a team of people.

 

[OmerV]

But you do bring up a good point. "new technologies". What "new technique, or schemes" has Garrett come up with in regard to his "genius" mind? His offenses are old and stale, boring and predictable. He is always catching up instead of ahead of the curve. Garrett is useless.

I didn't say Garrett was good at his job, I just said he is responsible for what happens.