Jason Garrett's Strengths

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If they weren't doing a good enough job, how is letting them go using them as scapegoats?
Great question. Apparently they were doing a great job of developing players to make it a Garrett strength, but were let go anyway. Something smells funny to me.
 

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Great question. Apparently they were doing a great job of developing players to make it a Garrett strength, but were let go anyway. Something smells funny to me.

Sorry, I didn't back up and read the context of your comment.
 

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Every young coach starts out treated as if he has a lifetime job, and yes, with Garrett that treatment has lasted longer with than with most, but that doesn't make it a lifetime job. It's ridiculous to act as if his job would be just as secure with 3 straight 4-12 seasons as it would be with 3 straight 12-4 seasons. Suggesting that is just emotion talking, and not reason.

The stuff about him getting the job before it was earned is true, but irrelevant to my point. It doesn't mean he will never be fired.

Of course it is not a lifetime job in reality. He doesn't own the team. But, I think Jerry has it set up so that the head coach is just a figure head/supervisor, and the coordinators and coaches do all the work. Since Garret is not responsible for hiring or even choosing them, Jerry assigns no blame to him when things go off the rails. He just fires the coordinators and coaches leaving Garret alone. So, I don't see this ending on Jerry's watch. He really likes Jason and obviously Jerry values more than just winning. He likes the calm, friendly atmosphere Jason has created. He likes that jason does not confront him or make him uncomfortable. So, yeah, the fan base would have to turn in their season tickets before Garret is shown the door. A 4-12 record would most likley only get us a new set of offensive and defensive coordinators.
 

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I would think the biggest argument against player development this offseason is that the position coaches were used as the scapegoats. They are the ones actually doing the development and apparently they weren’t doing a good enough job.
This appears a reasonable assumption and assessment of the situation.

Jerry is normally looking for sacrificial lambs to feed to the wolves attempting to calm the Lynch Mob after a disapointing season.

Anything to address Damage Control other than fixing what we all know needs to be done in front office and overall coaching situation.
 

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That's one of the dumbest posts I've read.
oh really...please do tell us then with all your insight and coaching wisdom, just wth he does better then clap after each play? Because it damn sure isn't adjustments, not at half time or any time during the game. So please prove my statement to be the dumbest.
 

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JG is also an expert in 16th century imperialism.
 

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oh really...please do tell us then with all your insight and coaching wisdom, just wth he does better then clap after each play? Because it damn sure isn't adjustments, not at half time or any time during the game. So please prove my statement to be the dumbest.

You think it takes special insight or wisdom to talk down someone who can't come up with anything more substantial than clapping to talk about? It's actually humorous how many people actually think that Garrett's clapping has anything to do with anything. It's a mannerism - nothing more.

I still don't understand the need for some fans to make it about more than Garrett's record. He hasn't maintained a level of consistency from year to year, and hasn't had much playoff success. That's all anyone needs to talk about to justify wanting Garrett gone. To make it about nonsensical stuff is mindless and just takes away from the real points of discussion.
 

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oh really...please do tell us then with all your insight and coaching wisdom, just wth he does better then clap after each play? Because it damn sure isn't adjustments, not at half time or any time during the game. So please prove my statement to be the dumbest.
You just proved all on your own.
 

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This appears a reasonable assumption and assessment of the situation.

Jerry is normally looking for sacrificial lambs to feed to the wolves attempting to calm the Lynch Mob after a disapointing season.

Anything to address Damage Control other than fixing what we all know needs to be done in front office and overall coaching situation.

You think so? I never buy into the arguments that Jones does things because he cares about appearances for the fans. From what I've seen, he legitimately doesn't care as long as people are talking about the Cowboys. The Tony stuff. This Dez stuff. There's a reason why that meeting hasn't happened it. It's the primary off-season story regarding the Cowboys leading up to the draft in Dallas in a couple weeks here. Why would he put that out of its misery? The 'lynch mob' is harmless. They'll ***** and moan, and then buy tickets and subscribe to DirectTV and eat up the content again like they always do.

The offensive assistants were let go for a reason that hasn't been reported yet. Fisher alluded to the power struggle early in the offseason, but it's been quiet on that topic since. Now, that speaks to another sort of dysfunction on the staff that isn't unusual for NFL teams but that we haven't seen a lot of in Dallas under Garrett since Callahan left. But it does nothing to change the fact that, by most available standards, the staff has done a better job than most in terms of drafting and developing their talent.
 

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You just proved all on your own.
So...I win, as all you got is the same tired line...again, I'll give you another chance tell me how I am wrong? JG is nothing but a puppet, but he was smart enough to know how to get Wade fired and get himself inserted into a job he has no clue how to function at... so maybe that
 

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So...I win, as all you got is the same tired line...again, I'll give you another chance tell me how I am wrong? JG is nothing but a puppet, but he was smart enough to know how to get Wade fired and get himself inserted into a job he has no clue how to function at... so maybe that

How are you wrong ... lol? Well, you ridiculously think clapping on the sidelines is somehow meaningful - so that's the first indication you are full of nonsense. The second is you apparently feel that not being a high quality NFL coach somehow means Garrett has zero positive traits as a coach, which is illogical. Third is you seem to feel some need to hold a personal grudge and harbor anger toward Garrett, which only compounds the lack of logic and reason.

There is no emotion to have here. If you think he has been ineffective, just point to the inconsistent records, and lack of playoff success. It's simple, and it's factual, and it's not tainted by irrational emotion. To make clapping an issue just makes anything else you say look like trivial nonsense.
 
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You think so? I never buy into the arguments that Jones does things because he cares about appearances for the fans. From what I've seen, he legitimately doesn't care as long as people are talking about the Cowboys. The Tony stuff. This Dez stuff. There's a reason why that meeting hasn't happened it. It's the primary off-season story regarding the Cowboys leading up to the draft in Dallas in a couple weeks here. Why would he put that out of its misery? The 'lynch mob' is harmless. They'll ***** and moan, and then buy tickets and subscribe to DirectTV and eat up the content again like they always do.

The offensive assistants were let go for a reason that hasn't been reported yet. Fisher alluded to the power struggle early in the offseason, but it's been quiet on that topic since. Now, that speaks to another sort of dysfunction on the staff that isn't unusual for NFL teams but that we haven't seen a lot of in Dallas under Garrett since Callahan left. But it does nothing to change the fact that, by most available standards, the staff has done a better job than most in terms of drafting and developing their talent.
Jerry addresses the public criticism regardless how much it effects him or his decisions.

It’s all part of his promotion to ensure fans he’s paying attention despite not making the ultimate moves they feel are needed.
 

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So...I win, as all you got is the same tired line...again, I'll give you another chance tell me how I am wrong? JG is nothing but a puppet, but he was smart enough to know how to get Wade fired and get himself inserted into a job he has no clue how to function at... so maybe that
You thought we shouldn’t have fired Wade ?
 

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His greatest strength appears to be his ability to not encroach on Jerry taking credit for any team success. If we ever win a SB under Garrett, Jerry the GM will get all of the credit since it meant he finally built a roster capable of overcoming Garrett's considerable shortcomings. Making Jerry comfortable is by far the biggest qualification a coach on a Jerry Jones owned team can have.
 

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lol - no you don't get it, and apparently you need to look up the word "delegate" to understand what I wrote.

I'll explain it to you - to delegate means to hire someone to get the job done that you need to get done.

The point is, Garrett is responsible for everything, regardless of whether he directly teaches something, or hires others to do so.

In your example, the CEO doesn't train, but he is still responsible for selling the product. That's his charge, and the way he does it is by hiring and managing a team of people.

Nope, Garrett is NOT responsible for everything. You show AGAIN that you dont understand. THIS time, how it works in the Dallas FO. Garrett is one of the head coaches in the NFL with the LEAST amount of power. He is NOT the CEO as you put it. He is a figurehead puppet that has been stripped even more of his duties as time went on.

But even if he WAS responsible, as you put it. It has NOTHING to do with him developing players. He does NOT develop players. People under him develop the players. So your blanket statement that "he is the head coach so he gets credit for everything" is lazy and inaccurate.

And in case you didnt notice the "overall" results of this team since GArrett has been here have been sub standard. Even when the team was great, we underperformed in the playoffs. So either way your theories are wanton.
 
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