Jason Hatcher on what’s different about Washington: The head coach isn’t policing the team

[guag]

"I don't want to go in to details, but let me go into some details..."

I love the part where he says he doesn't want to go into details but yet he kept talking.

Gotta love it.

 

[links18]

I'm actually interested to hear that Garrett is considered to be policing the team.

Maybe he got Garrett and Jerry confused?

 

[links18]

What a bunch of meaningless cliches from Hatcher.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Problem is.. both Hatcher and Garrett can't run a team.

Im just shocked you would have a response like this, just shocked.

 

[Alexander]

So the players run the team? If so, Gruden will fail. Wade let the players run the team, didn't turn out so well. I take this as a compliment to Garrett, that he is in charge.

Correct. Players are not smart enough to know what is good for them.

And think of the some of the "veterans" on the Commanders.

DeAngelo Hall. DeSean Jackson. Brandon Meriweather.

And they lost the one with real leadership and character in London Fletcher.

Great news. Enjoy Commander fans.

 

[DBOY3141]

Correct. Players are not smart enough to know what is good for them.

And think of the some of the "veterans" on the Commanders.

DeAngelo Hall. DeSean Jackson. Brandon Meriweather.

And they lost the one with real leadership and character in London Fletcher.

Great news. Enjoy Commander fans.

Excellent point on who they have in that locker room.

 

[dstovall5]

And Hatcher, that's exactly why your Commanders went 3 - 13 last year, and will do so again this year ... Just imagine if you played for a coach like Harbaugh or Bellichick. I'd love to see their response if you told them players run the practices and dictate the team ... Now that would be a site to see.

 

[khiladi]

But I thought Garrett had no control..... And he was being interfered with by Jerry. Does that mean Garrett just sucks at his job?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Lil Country Club atmosphere with Danny's boys.

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“Every coach has a different approach, but there’s a lot of things different here,” Hatcher said on 105.3 The Fan [KRLD-FM]. “I don’t want to go into details about it because I don’t want to get blamed like, ‘Oh, he said this about Dallas…’

“They really take care of the veteran guys. They give us more say-so over the team. This is our team. The head coach don’t want to be policing the team. This is our team, so when we set the foundation for this football team, the way it’s supposed to go, that’s the way it’s supposed to go, through the players and not the coaches. It’s a players team, so whatever we say goes, pretty much, if it’s going in the right direction.”

You can see how well all this has worked in the Commanders camp, Hatch.
Glad you are there and not here.
Danny Snyder like the whiners and underachievers more than jerra like them.

OK, we half heard from you, Hatch, now ****.

 

[khiladi]

BTW, by policing I don't think it's a stretch that he means micro-managing, especially when he goes on to clarify it even further. He says it quite clearly that the coach doesn't listen to the advice of the veterans and ignores them. And while he may not know the realities of the Commanders organization in the end, he surely does the Cowboys so that talk about the coach is of some value. And it also actually coincides with things like with what Crayton speaking up in the offensive meetings, asking about 'hot-reads' and Garrett getting angry.

 

[Califan007]

Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells. Head Coaches who "policed" their teams.

Dave Campo, Wade Phillips, Chan Gailey, Barry Switzer. Head Coaches who didn't.


Any fan who doesn't want Garrett in that first list is nuts. Period.

You forgot another coach who didn't police his team: Joe Gibbs.

He actually took veterans aside and told them--and I quote--"This is your team". He told them he wasn't in the locker room, he wasn't with the players off the field...and that he needed the veterans to set the tone and help the players stay accountable to each other instead of just to the coaches. He told the vets that he couldn't/shouldn't do it, and that he needed the veteran players to remind the rest of the players to take ownership of the team, of each other and of everything that occurs in practice and on the field. In other words, to actually be leaders and provide the leadership every team needs.

That's not exactly a unique thing to do with the vets. Lots of coaches have done so and still do. And it's not as if this made the players no longer afraid of Gibbs if they strayed from the "foundation" Hatcher mentions...just the opposite.

Belichick's "complete control" works...if you're made up of the same stuff that Belichick is. Gibbs "players take ownership of the team" way works...if you have the right veteran players to talk to. I think Ryan Clark, Barry Cofield, Santana Moss, D'Angelo Hall (yes, Hall lol), Brian Orakpo, Trent Williams and Hatcher can be the right veteran types.

Maybe by comparison, the Cowboys are more of an employer/employee type of deal...Garrett and Jerruh micro-managing everything, veteran players' years of experience being overlooked too often...and players going to coaches to complain (or even worse, the GM) instead of handling things within the locker room among themselves ("that’s the way it’s supposed to go, through the players and not the coaches"). When you have to answer to the entire locker room and not just the coach, it makes a difference. And let's face it, it's not as if former Cowboys players haven't been talking for years about the lack of leadership on the team.

And seriously...who here really thinks Hatcher meant the players will have the ability to override the coaches on anything? lol...That's a laughable thought. So maybe he's just reflecting on how he feels he's part of a team now instead of being an employee of the Cowboys.

 

[khiladi]

You forgot another coach who didn't police his team: Joe Gibbs.

He actually took veterans aside and told them--and I quote--"This is your team". He told them he wasn't in the locker room, he wasn't with the players off the field...and that he needed the veterans to set the tone and help the players stay accountable to each other instead of just to the coaches. He told the vets that he couldn't/shouldn't do it, and that he needed the veteran players to remind the rest of the players to take ownership of the team, of each other and of everything that occurs in practice and on the field. In other words, to actually be leaders and provide the leadership every team needs.

That's not exactly a unique thing to do with the vets. Lots of coaches have done so and still do. And it's not as if this made the players no longer afraid of Gibbs if they strayed from the "foundation" Hatcher mentions...just the opposite.

Belichick's "complete control" works...if you're made up of the same stuff that Belichick is. Gibbs "players take ownership of the team" way works...if you have the right veteran players to talk to. I think Ryan Clark, Barry Cofield, Santana Moss, D'Angelo Hall (yes, Hall lol), Brian Orakpo, Trent Williams and Hatcher can be the right veteran types.

Maybe by comparison, the Cowboys are more of an employer/employee type of deal...Garrett and Jerruh micro-managing everything, veteran players' years of experience being overlooked too often...and players going to coaches to complain (or even worse, the GM) instead of handling things within the locker room among themselves ("that’s the way it’s supposed to go, through the players and not the coaches"). When you have to answer to the entire locker room and not just the coach, it makes a difference. And let's face it, it's not as if former Cowboys players haven't been talking for years about the lack of leadership on the team.

And seriously...who here really thinks Hatcher meant the players will have the ability to override the coaches on anything? lol...That's a laughable thought. So maybe he's just reflecting on how he feels he's part of a team now instead of being an employee of the Cowboys.

Don't worry.. the agenda is in full force to make Garrett sound like the next Landry. The problem is, his defenders are all over the place in their opinions. One minute, he's getting hamstrung at every corner by Jerry and has no power, the next minute his ability to police and control the team per Hatcher's own words shows how in control he is and an example of Tom Landry.

The irony is, they don't even realize how badly they contradict themselves.

 

[Denim Chicken]

BTW, by policing I don't think it's a stretch that he means micro-managing, especially when he goes on to clarify it even further. He says it quite clearly that the coach doesn't listen to the advice of the veterans and ignores them.

Well, Rod and Kiffen are the coaches that run the defense and I highly doubt they would ignore input from a player. And even if they did, Hatch had his best season last year, so whatever they did or did not do obviously worked in his favor.

 

[khiladi]

Well, Rod and Kiffen are the coaches that run the defense and I highly doubt they would ignore input from a player. And even if they did, Hatch had his best season last year, so whatever they did or did not do obviously worked in his favor.

That's not whom Hatcher seems to be implicating:

“They really take care of the veteran guys. They give us more say-so over the team. This is our team. The head coach don’t want to be policing the team. This is our team, so when we set the foundation for this football team, the way it’s supposed to go, that’s the way it’s supposed to go, through the players and not the coaches. It’s a players team, so whatever we say goes, pretty much, if it’s going in the right direction.”

He's not calling out assistant coaches, he's calling out the head coach and his desire to police the team. And he relates it specifically to him not listening to the advice of his veterans.

 

[CyberB0b]

Jay Gruden has only been the coach for a few months. Due to the CBA, he's likely had very little contact with the players this early in the year. Probably less than 2 weeks worth of voluntary practice.

 

[Denim Chicken]

That's not whom Hatcher seems to be implicating:

He's not calling out assistant coaches, he's calling out the head coach and his desire to police the team. And he relates it specifically to him not listening to the advice of his veterans.

Well the point remains: he had his best season last year, so whatever method of coaching was obviously getting results out of him. So if coaching is indeed going to be handled in the opposite manner, good luck getting the same production out of him.

I feel like this is nothing more than sour grapes, though.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I don't see how what Hatcher said is a good or bad thing for either team...if it works. Gruden's way in DC is an unknown. Garrett's way is still a "process" lol (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

Personally, I rather have a coach who has his fingers on the pulse of the team. Call it micro-managing or whatever, at least he knows what's going on at all times. There shouldn't be any creepy Incognito-Martin incidents going on.

 

[jday]

Lil Country Club atmosphere with Danny's boys.

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“Every coach has a different approach, but there’s a lot of things different here,” Hatcher said on 105.3 The Fan [KRLD-FM]. “I don’t want to go into details about it because I don’t want to get blamed like, ‘Oh, he said this about Dallas…’

“They really take care of the veteran guys. They give us more say-so over the team. This is our team. The head coach don’t want to be policing the team. This is our team, so when we set the foundation for this football team, the way it’s supposed to go, that’s the way it’s supposed to go, through the players and not the coaches. It’s a players team, so whatever we say goes, pretty much, if it’s going in the right direction.”

It's the typical grass is greener on other side speech. Nothing new here.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Don't worry.. the agenda is in full force to make Garrett sound like the next Landry. The problem is, his defenders are all over the place in their opinions. One minute, he's getting hamstrung at every corner by Jerry and has no power, the next minute his ability to police and control the team per Hatcher's own words shows how in control he is and an example of Tom Landry.

The irony is, they don't even realize how badly they contradict themselves.

...Because everyone who supports the head coach should have exactly the same opinions. Maybe they should have a private meeting to get their story strait, LOL.

 

[OhSnap]

It must be great since he still feels the need to call in to a Dallas radio station to squawk about it. Sounds kinda like callin your ex to let her(or him if thats your thing) know your over her.