Jay Glazer - Favre will retire....*Merged*

[iceberg]

Obviously people react to things differently. I'm not the most emotional person in the word, but their retirement press conferences were real emotional to watch.

i am emotional by nature. a strong scene in a movie can tear me up. that said, the most emotional speech i've ever heard in my life that i still pull up and watch to help me through -

irvins HOF speech.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Obviously people react to things differently. I'm not the most emotional person in the word, but their retirement press conferences were real emotional to watch.

I feel ya WG. I shed some tears when Irvin and Aikman retired, but I have no problem admitting that I shed some as well when Irvin went down to his injury in Philly.

There is nothing wrong with being sad about the retirement of favorite players or people who were just great.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Favre responds to Mort report

9:20 AM Tue, Mar 04, 2008 | Permalink
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ESPN's Chris Mortensen, who reported a few minutes back that Brett Favre's decision to retire had something to do Randy Moss not coming to Green Bay, got a quick response from No. 4 on that.

"One thing he did want to say is that in the big picture of things, this wasn't about Randy Moss," Mort said. "This was about being mentally worn down, the wear and tear of the offseason, the studying every week, everything taken into account. He and his wife Deanna talked about how anything short of winning a Super Bowl would be a disappointment and not worth the amount of time.

'Physically he can still play, but to win a Super Bowl, what are the odds? The odds are long for almost anybody. And he just not ready to go through the mental wear and tear, and said that the coach, Mike McCarthy, was great. He had a great relationship with the general manager (SMU-ex) Ted Thompson. He said there might some truth to the idea that he's disappointed there wasn't a major play for Moss, but that's not the driving reason for him retiring."

Mort also said that the decision sounded "absolute." So there you have it.

Yeah.... what??
You point is that it was going to be reported if it were the case?
Ok....

Everybody.... Kumbaya

Favre passes the torch to Romo as the most fun player to watch

Not passed... Romo took it about 2 years ago.

 

[UVAwahoos]

That knocks Green Bay out of the way.

He must've been HELLA frustrated with the front office's lack of care when these huge name free agents that clearly could've helped push the team over the brink weren't even looked at.

Moss would've made them the NFC favorite. There's no way Favre leaves if he's signed, and I think he could've been.

 

[FCBarca]

Well, I'm sure the speculation will persist that failing to land Moss helped confirm his decision to retire...Amazing that that could be Moss' legacy...Turning Favre into retirement...Bizarre world, eh?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Yeah.... what??
You point is that it was going to be reported if it were the case?
Ok....

Everybody.... Kumbaya

You speculated and I provided a quote to the contrary. Up to you how you choose to take it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You speculated and I provided a quote to the contrary. Up to you how you choose to take it.

I did.
You did.
True.


Be honest.... do you believe it would have been reported(my speculation)?

 

[UVAwahoos]

Well, I'm sure the speculation will persist that failing to land Moss helped confirm his decision to retire...Amazing that that could be Moss' legacy...Turning Favre into retirement...Bizarre world, eh?

I would be IRATE if I were a Packers fan. They're not a contender (yet) with Favre's backup and they didn't even try to land Moss. There's no way he retires if they bring him in after a 13-3 season. I'm actually mad about it and I don't care for the Packers at all. Oh well.

 

[rcaldw]

He also won more for his team than he ever cost them. He's only the QB with the most wins in history, ahead of some guy named John Elway.

Favre is beyond great.

Favre is not beyond great. He was a very good player with a GREAT personality for the fans and media. That is the truth. He had a GREAT arm. He had GREAT durability. He had GREAT presence. He had a flair for the dramatic. But he also had POOR decision making skills, and NERVES WOULD get to him in big games and big moments. Put him in a regular season situation where he knew he had next week to play and he was fantastic in clutch situations. Put him in playoff situations and he forced things big time. He would also take time to settle into a big game (because of nerves) and sometimes that resulted in his team having to play from behind.

The wins and all-time stats are, to some degree, a product of his longevity as much as performance.

As a side note, this guy threw more TD passes inside of 4 yards than anyone in NFL history and that greatly added to his stats too. As an Aikman fan in the 90's I used to watch the updates and then I would watch NFL Primetime after the day's action and dream of what Aikman's stats could have been if he had thrown so many dinky TD's inside the 5. Then again, we had a sure thing TD machine in Emmitt Smith in that zone and it would have been foolish to do what the Packers did.

I will miss Favre only because, in my mind, he belonged to an era of much better QB play than we have in the NFL right now. I know it isn't popular among the younger fans to say, but I really don't believe that the current QB's (with a few notable exceptions) compare favorably with the QB's of the 90's especially.

There was a time in the 90's when you had:

Aikman - Dallas
Montana - Chiefs
Young - 49ers
Moon - Oilers
Kelly - Bills
Cunningham - Eagles
Esiason - Bengals
Simms - Giants
Marino - Dolphins
Favre - Packers
Bledsoe - Patriots

and that is just off the top of my head. There are at least 7 hall of famers in that list.

 

[Hostile]

Really?

Closest I've ever gotten to crying over sports is when I heard Sean Taylor died, just because of the shock, and as a division rival, and living in Commanders country, you kind of got to feel like you knew him.

Retirements....not so much.

Len Bias' death really shook me up. I still remember where I was and what I was doing.

I am a Tarheel fan. Don't like the Terps.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Favre is not beyond great. He was a very good player with a GREAT personality for the fans and media. That is the truth. He had a GREAT arm. He had GREAT durability. He had GREAT presence. He had a flair for the dramatic. But he also had POOR decision making skills, and NERVES WOULD get to him in big games and big moments. Put him in a regular season situation where he knew he had next week to play and he was fantastic in clutch situations. Put him in playoff situations and he forced things big time. He would also take time to settle into a big game (because of nerves) and sometimes that resulted in his team having to play from behind.

The wins and all-time stats are, to some degree, a product of his longevity as much as performance.

As a side note, this guy threw more TD passes inside of 4 yards than anyone in NFL history and that greatly added to his stats too. As an Aikman fan in the 90's I used to watch the updates and then I would watch NFL Primetime after the day's action and dream of what Aikman's stats could have been if he had thrown so many dinky TD's inside the 5. Then again, we had a sure thing TD machine in Emmitt Smith in that zone and it would have been foolish to do what the Packers did.

I will miss Favre only because, in my mind, he belonged to an era of much better QB play than we have in the NFL right now. I know it isn't popular among the younger fans to say, but I really don't believe that the current QB's (with a few notable exceptions) compare favorably with the QB's of the 90's especially.

There was a time in the 90's when you had:

Aikman - Dallas
Montana - Chiefs
Young - 49ers
Moon - Oilers
Kelly - Bills
Cunningham - Eagles
Esiason - Bengals
Simms - Giants
Marino - Dolphins
Favre - Packers
Bledsoe - Patriots

and that is just off the top of my head. There are at least 7 hall of famers in that list.

Great, that's your opinion. Mine is that he is beyond great. That is all.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I did.
You did.
True.


Be honest.... do you believe it would have been reported(my speculation)?

Actually I do, considering I remember reading that Favre wasn't completely on board with McCarthy hiring.

I also think that if there's any speculation to be done, it would be slowly filtering out. So far, the only speculation is on him being upset that they didn't make a play for Moss again.

The coming days will tell the tale as to whether there were any other reasons.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Favre is not beyond great.
He was a very good player with a GREAT personality for the fans and media. That is the truth. He had a GREAT arm. He had GREAT durability. He had GREAT presence. He had a flair for the dramatic. But he also had POOR decision making skills, and NERVES WOULD get to him in big games and big moments. Put him in a regular season situation where he knew he had next week to play and he was fantastic in clutch situations. Put him in playoff situations and he forced things big time. He would also take time to settle into a big game (because of nerves) and sometimes that resulted in his team having to play from behind.

The wins and all-time stats are, to some degree, a product of his longevity as much as performance.

As a side note, this guy threw more TD passes inside of 4 yards than anyone in NFL history and that greatly added to his stats too. As an Aikman fan in the 90's I used to watch the updates and then I would watch NFL Primetime after the day's action and dream of what Aikman's stats could have been if he had throw so many dinky TD's inside the 5. Then again, we had a sure thing TD machine in Emmitt Smith in that zone and it would have been foolish to do what the Packers did.

Your post on Favre pro and con is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. I am not a big fan... but I dont dislike him either.

He was a pretty good QB thats not debateable.
As far as being a GREAT QB, he was not. Thats not debateable.

He would not share with the running game. He either would abandom it early and not give it time to develop OR he would throw INT's and have to play from behind. He was a old fashioned thrower he didnt want any part of handing it off.

Favre's QB play was like a Golfer that practices the drive shot(QB pass) but not the putts (running the ball).

 

[Chocolate Lab]

On ESPN.com you can watch the video of Mort's report... Favre won't say he retired because they didn't get Moss, but he says he admits to being disappointed they didn't. And he mentions not wanting to go through the mental grind unless they had a great chance at winning the Super Bowl.

So you put the two together and it sounds like it had something to do with it.

To which I say, hey Brett, now that you're finished playing, feel free to go get a job as a GM and then you can finally decide who to sign.

 

[rcaldw]

Great, that's your opinion. Mine is that he is beyond great. That is all.

And you are most certainly welcome to your misinformed and emotionally driven opinion. Just kidding.

But let me clear up that list a bit.

You would have had Moon in Minnesota at that time.

And I left off John Elway Denver

8 hall of famers.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Actually I do, considering I remember reading that Favre wasn't completely on board with McCarthy hiring.

I also think that if there's any speculation to be done, it would be slowly filtering out. So far, the only speculation is on him being upset that they didn't make a play for Moss again.

The coming days will tell the tale as to whether there were any other reasons.

I think that a little naive on your part....

but you leave yourself and out.

Thats Smart

 

[WarC]

If true, thus ends one of the greatest careers I have ever had the privilege of watching. Some may hate Favre. I thoroughly enjoyed the way the man played the game.

Today is the end of an era in football. To me, this is like watching Aikman retire. This is like Emmitt going to the Cardinals. Irvin's career ending injury, Steve Young's last throw, or Jerry Rice not making the roster. As a youngun myself the great 90's teams were like the beginning, so to see its last "hero" go feels very strange indeed.

 

[anava]

While he was a great QB, it shows you in the end he was in it for the records not the team. He openly said he wasnt there to groom Rodgers. He waffled the last few years on retirement, he even hung around when the team was bad to pile up the yards and TDs. Last year they werent supposed to be good but he hung around to get the last few records and now that he has them it is See Ya. Even though they are a relatively young team and upcoming. But he has all the records so what is left to play for the game itself?

 

[rcaldw]

Today is the end of an era in football. To me, this is like watching Aikman retire. This is like Emmitt going to the Cardinals. Irvin's career ending injury, Steve Young's last throw, or Jerry Rice not making the roster. As a youngun myself the great 90's teams were like the beginning, so to see its last "hero" go feels very strange indeed.

You are right about that WarC. It is sort of the final passing of one generation of football to another. Vinny Testaverde not withstanding

 

[Hostile]

Today is the end of an era in football. To me, this is like watching Aikman retire. This is like Emmitt going to the Cardinals. Irvin's career ending injury, Steve Young's last throw, or Jerry Rice not making the roster. As a youngun myself the great 90's teams were like the beginning, so to see its last "hero" go feels very strange indeed.

It kind of does feel strange. I have witnessed this for previous decades. It still never prepares you for it when that last guy says goodbye.

I wonder if Peyton Manning can eclipse his record for consecutive games started? Of all Favre's records, that is the one that amazes me the most.