Jaylon Smith's nerve not firing

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GhostOfPelluer

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These elite athletes are different and people don't realize that. Their bodies are different. That's how you can explain TO playing in the Super Bowl on a broken leg - something most of us couldn't fathom. This guy is on the extreme elite end of the spectrum. If anybody can play at a high level with this condition, it's him.
 

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I never figured it would be right. But lets see if he can play with it at even a good level. I still think it was a poor pick at that spot with so many players that would have helped immediately.
 

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My main problem with the Jaylon pick was that a team with no talent on defense shouldn't be taking risks on Druggies or Medical issues in the 2nd round. And just because a bad decision turns out good doesn't make it the right choice. How often we going to get high 2nd round picks?
True, and they could have got him in a later round, just have to gamble other teams dont take him in 2nd.
Cowboys need to stop trying to get something for nothing.
And also they got weeden because he was a former # 1 pick, so was Rolando. They thought they could do something with them
and have a cheap round 1 pick player.
Avoid the problem players.
 

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Posted by Mike Fisher himself:

By Mike Fisher

I’ve reported it all a skillion (a Jerry Jones pet number) times:

*Jaylon Smith has dropfoot.

*There is “medical hope’’ regarding the nerve in his knee firing, but there are no guarantees.

*The suggestion that he can play with a brace on his foot and ankle to supplement the feeling in the knee and stabilize the dropfoot is a theory, not a fact.

“I think the sky’s the limit,’’ said COO Stephen Jones on Tuesday from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. “I think he’s got a great opportunity, if he keeps on his current path, to be a dominant player for us.’’

But what is that “current path’’? Smith, the team’s second-round pick from 2016 who spent all of last year on the sidelines working and praying toward a comeback, promises there has been improvement in his “feeling’’ in his knee; he told me that in early January. I wrote it … and I believe it.

But now comes out colleague Ian Rapaport noting the lack of full improvement in that “firing’’ process, and some skepticism about Smith’s true future.

Stephen noted honestly, “Now to say I expect that (being a dominant player) when he’s not there yet? That’s tough to have that expectation. But I think we do expect him to contribute and be a big part of our defense this year.”

That’s lovely. But there is no established proof that a player can participate in a real NFL game with an AFO (ankle-foot orthotics) allowing the use of his foot.

Jaylon, 21, is now more of a weight-room freak that ever. He’s a magnificent and faith-based person and an incredible story waiting to happen.

“It’s doing great deeds,’’ Jaylon told me.

But he was talking about his nerve, not his foot.

Playing pro football without a fully-fired nerve and without a fully-functional foot?

That would be among the great deeds of all.
 

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True, and they could have got him in a later round, just have to gamble other teams dont take him in 2nd.
Cowboys need to stop trying to get something for nothing.
And also they got weeden because he was a former # 1 pick, so was Rolando. They thought they could do something with them
and have a cheap round 1 pick player.
Avoid the problem players.
And Dez and Dak and Collins and...half of a story is worthless.
 

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last year or this year?

Last year.

He had his injury in early January. The length from the injury to the peroneal was about 7 inches. Nerves regenerate at a rate of ~1 inch per month.

IOW the nerve would have grown to the muscle in question in about 7 months or so which put him at August, the 8th month of the year.

Then came the discussion about innervation where it can take a short period of time or months.

Given the reports we have now, as I stated earlier, I believe that he started to get muscular control around late November when all those reports came out that the nerve had started to regenerate came out, 3 months later than the earliest possible timeframe.

If there had been no reinnervation by now, 14 months post injury, I think they would have elected for more surgery.
 

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I guess Gil Brandt lied about Jaylon telling him the nerve is starting to fire. Or, people dont understand that just because the nerve is starting to fire that doesnt mean its firing at 100%
 

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Lets be real, it obviously isn't firing. In terms of those saying well Jaylon says he is feeling things....there is an article from last April in USA Today (pre-draft) where Jaylon said he was 'feeling sensations' he had not before. The fact that he keeps saying he is 'feeling sensations' doesn't demonstrate any material progress. We can hope and pretend that the nerve is 'progressing', but nobody is saying that. Sure, his knee has progressed tremendously and his physical condition is amazing, but he has drop foot, and it would be an amazing feat to play in the NFL with that condition.

We have to hope for the nerve to kick in...
 

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Time to quit gambling with high draft picks. Maybe we should also consider along with the "RKG" considerations if the player is a "HKG" Healthy Kinda Guy. If a guy should go in the first and slips to the 2nd, there is a reason for it.
 

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The knee is fine. But running involves not only the knee but all the muscles in the foot. If your foot is not operating properly, it stresses other muscles you need to maneuver, including the knee.

From what I gathered, the poster is saying that there will be undue stress placed on his knee, which will likely cause it to give out quicker than it would if Jaylon had all his leg muscles working for him.
100%. Had a colleague with a dropped foot. Not a pro contact player by any means, but a ranked squash player that endured intensive PT for years - tried to compete again (nerve didn't connect) and ended up with severe knee and hip ailments in the process.
 

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Based on???
based on he already missed a year and his nerve still isn't firing

how many guys do you know that have had illustrious NFL careers with his condition?

are you going to give me some speech about waiting 5 years before making any negative comments?
 

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all we can do is wait and see what transpires , I dont have high hopes, or any hope really, so if it turns out he can play good
it is a plus.
I think they will try to get him on the field whether it fires or not, not sure how that will work out.
 

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based on he already missed a year and his nerve still isn't firing

how many guys do you know that have had illustrious NFL careers with his condition?

are you going to give me some speech about waiting 5 years before making any negative comments?

There are conflicting reports and visual evidence that Jaylon can lift his foot. Rappoport is not known for his steadfast reliability.
 

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There are conflicting reports and visual evidence that Jaylon can lift his foot. Rappoport is not known for his steadfast reliability.

There is no visual evidence of Jaylon lifting his foot without a brace and the still shot of him jumping on the "trampoline" certainly doesn't indicate that.

The suggestion that Jaylon is now just trying to get his mind and muscle function in coordination is simply your interpolation of a blurb in an article that said nothing of the sort.
 
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