Jeanty : Isnt he just a slightly better version of Deuce ? Not worth a round one pick

gtb1943 said:
when 25 people in a row say you are drunk, time to borrow a quarter and lay down in the gutter.
When every single draftnik says you are full of crap, time to go to the toilet
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Oh I get it now, the draftniks are never wrong/

Let's see, how about Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Blair Thomas, Kijana Carter, Curtis Enis, Trent Richardson, Ron Dayne. Just to name a few.
All of those were very high draft picks and very highly rated college players. NONE of them lit up the NFL, most were failures.

You seem to think I'm saying Jeanty is a sure-fire bust, a no-talent lump who's not worth a tinker's darn. I've already said I hope he does well, and will give him every chance to succeed, should the Cowboys draft him

But NOTHING is guaranteed, he may end up anywhere from a total flop to one of the top backs ever. We (and the draftniks) don't know how he'll end up.

Like I said, we'll see. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine, you don't have to agree.

But I don't have to agree with yours either. We'll just have to agree to disagree...
 
LACowboysFan1 said:
Oh I get it now, the draftniks are never wrong/

Let's see, how about Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Blair Thomas, Kijana Carter, Curtis Enis, Trent Richardson, Ron Dayne. Just to name a few.
All of those were very high draft picks and very highly rated college players. NONE of them lit up the NFL, most were failures.

You seem to think I'm saying Jeanty is a sure-fire bust, a no-talent lump who's not worth a tinker's darn. I've already said I hope he does well, and will give him every chance to succeed, should the Cowboys draft him

But NOTHING is guaranteed, he may end up anywhere from a total flop to one of the top backs ever. We (and the draftniks) don't know how he'll end up.

Like I said, we'll see. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine, you don't have to agree.

But I don't have to agree with yours either. We'll just have to agree to disagree...
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NOT ONE OF THEM had the unanimous support Jeanty does. You simply cannot accept the fact that your view has no support from ANYONE that has EVER DONE a draft rating.
 
Deuce: Height 5′ 5″, Weight 176 lbs
Aston: Height 5′ 9″, Weight 216 lbs

For context:
The average height of an NFL RB is 70.73 in ~5' 10.5"
The average weight of an NFL RB is 214.48 lbs
 
The only real knock I have on Jeanty is that there are maybe 10 legitimate starting RB prospects in this draft. He’s a fantastic runner but the depth of this class is very good which makes it very tempting to pass on Jeanty to grab a rb round 2/3.
 
Jeanty is leaving with the 2nd most rushing yards in college football history.

And who was the only college runningback with more yardage?

Barry Sanders
 
gtb1943 said:
NOT ONE OF THEM had the unanimous support Jeanty does. You simply cannot accept the fact that your view has no support from ANYONE that has EVER DONE a draft rating.
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So, if Jeanty doesn't do well, you won't admit it. Figured that. Really don't know why you keep harping on this. As far as none of the players I mentioned had the support Jeanty does, that's just not true. Carter was the number one pick, no running back gets drafted no.1 without having consensus agreement of the "experts". So, there goes your "not one of them" statement. And many of the others were very high picks,

Besides, why do you care what I think? All you have to do is say you think I'm wrong, and that you don't agree, and that's it. Can't help how you feel, and you are NOT changing my mind.

As I said, we'll just have to agree to disagree. If you can't do that, I'll just put you on my ignore list. I love a good discussion, but you're not discussing, just trying to get me to say my OPINON is wrong. Well, it may be, but so what? No skin off your nose.

Let's see what happens, that will be a certainty, not opinion, so one of us will be right and one will be wrong.

History will tell.

Time to move on to another discussion.
 
LACowboysFan1 said:
So, if Jeanty doesn't do well, you won't admit it. Figured that. Really don't know why you keep harping on this. As far as none of the players I mentioned had the support Jeanty does, that's just not true. Carter was the number one pick, no running back gets drafted no.1 without having consensus agreement of the "experts". So, there goes your "not one of them" statement. And many of the others were very high picks,

Besides, why do you care what I think? All you have to do is say you think I'm wrong, and that you don't agree, and that's it. Can't help how you feel, and you are NOT changing my mind.

As I said, we'll just have to agree to disagree. If you can't do that, I'll just put you on my ignore list. I love a good discussion, but you're not discussing, just trying to get me to say my OPINON is wrong. Well, it may be, but so what? No skin off your nose.

Let's see what happens, that will be a certainty, not opinion, so one of us will be right and one will be wrong.

History will tell.

Time to move on to another discussion.
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What’s your point?

That Jeanty could possibly fail? Okay.

What you’re saying is that he’s just a bigger Deuce Vaughn which is just a dumb comp.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
The only real knock I have on Jeanty is that there are maybe 10 legitimate starting RB prospects in this draft. He’s a fantastic runner but the depth of this class is very good which makes it very tempting to pass on Jeanty to grab a rb round 2/3.
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With the RB depth this year, the Cowboys have bigger needs at 12.
 
Havic said:
He had a 3.5 ypc average on 30 carries. That’s being shut down
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compared to his regular stats certainly. But for a lot of RBs that would not be a bad stat. Especially against one of the Top College Defenses and you are the only real offensive threat they have to worry about
 
big dog cowboy said:
Didn't you hear? He wasn't finished growing and is taller now. That's why the official website of the Dallas Cowboys has him listed at 5'6" now.
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LOL... OHHH!!! I just assumed they did like my old basketball team would do and listed him a bit bigger. Got'cha! :thumbup:
 
rambo2 said:
Penn State didn't shut him down.
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He sure was not a factor either. I would say they did a good job on him. I was not impressed at at all.

Henderson, Judkins, Singleton all could be better, and probably are better.

The OSU RB's went through a gauntlet of teams that supposedly had great defenses. We seen what they did in their 4 games. Which they also ran through Penn States defense in the regular season.
Jeanty basically disappeared in his bowl game, after beating up on weaker teams in the regular season.
 
gtb1943 said:
compared to his regular stats certainly. But for a lot of RBs that would not be a bad stat. Especially against one of the Top College Defenses and you are the only real offensive threat they have to worry about
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Every nfl defense is a top college defense. Again, i think he is a good back but I have concerns taking him at 12 and think we need help elsewhere (dt)
 
DandyDon52 said:
Jeanty is 5-9 which could be 5-8 and 215 lbs. Has good speed, not sure how fast he is, I did see some that caught up to him.
He ran thru a lot of tackles, which wont happen as much in the nfl. And everyone is faster at NFL level.
I dont think he will be a bust, but he wont be as prolific as he was in college.

you cant judge these guys by stats, it is better to use the eye test.

I thought Henry was the RB to take instead of elliot, and I liked the RB detroit (name escapes me lol) picked over Bijian.
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He is a very similar player to Gibbs (the Detroit running back), but is slightly slower and has more tackle breaking ability.

He will day 1 be one of the top 5 running backs in the NFL.
 
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