Jeanty : Isnt he just a slightly better version of Deuce ? Not worth a round one pick

[Aliencowboy]

Don't disagree with you. However Melvin never showed the contact balance and power Jeanty has shown. I do agree he most likely is a one contract player for anyone. Jerry is 82. Maybe he is fine having Jeanty for 5 years max. Time will tell.

Jeanty has incredible contact balance but as you saw with Penn State getting hit a lot for 2/3 yard gains and not hitting the home runs on the 2 chances he did have lanes, won’t do it.

Let’s see what his 10 yard and 40 are

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

No, he isn't another Deuce. He's 4 inches taller and 40lbs heavier. He's faster, stronger, and just as elusive. Those thick thighs, Emmitt Smith had them too, and he did well to run around and through NFL tacklers. To say he wouldn't be able to replicate his collegiate style in the NFL is a projection, just the same as we're projecting everyone else's professional impact. Fact of the matter is he was incredible and consistent in college, showing skill, speed, power, and durability. He's unanimously the best back in this draft, and most of the experts have him top 5 overall. Why try to diminish that after watching a highlight video?

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

For those who are ballyhooing Jeanty, just remember the number of folks that were raving over Kellen Moore's 50-3 record at the same Boise State.

And how did he do in the NFL? I'll wait.

Jeanty played teams like Utah State, Washington State, Wyoming, San Jose State, and Nevada, to mention a few. So he played great against lower-level Division 1 teams, he won't have many of those games in the NFL. Like for example, in the bowl game against Penn State, it took Jeanty 30 carries to get 104 yards. How many touchdowns? Nary a one. Take away his long carry of 26 yards, and he averaged less that 2.7 yards per carry. Now sure, Penn St was a very good team, don't expect Jeanty to get 250 yards against them.

But great backs find a way to make yards, regardless of the opposition.

Not that I'm saying with 100% certainty that he'll be an NFL bust. I'll give him a chance, like most any player. Just advising caution...

But I would also note I gave Randy Gregory a chance, and again, how'd that work out? Had a few good games but was cut after multiple chances to do well. And I liked Gregory, but liking has nothing to do with evaluating his potential in the NFL.

I agree, not a first rounder, second at best...

You can't just take away a guys longest carry and say "this is how he really played". He cracked 100 yards against a strong PSU defense, and that was probably his worst game of the year. How did he look against Oregon? If you're going to cite a poor performance against a playoff team, why would you overlook the fact that he put up 192 yards and 3 tds against the #1 team in the country, despite being the only real weapon on that offense?

Kellen Moore played some games in the NFL despite obvious physical limitations and went on to become one of the best playcallers in the game. He had a great mind, subpar body. Not a good comparison.

 

[visionary]

I have been seeing people here say get Jeanty !! lol
So I looked at his HL reel for 2024 , and my first thought, was this guy is another duece, only he has big thighs, and that enables him to run thru tackles at times,
But these are college guys who will never make the nfl. When Jeanty hits the pros, he wont be running thru tackles, and he wont have giant holes, and it will all be different.

I dont think he is a round 1 or 2 pick, maybe 3rd or 4th at best.

The other thing is dallas had no clue how to use duece, so I would have no reason to think they would know how to use Jeanty.
Dallas needs a standard size RB, that they can use in a standard way.

I thought Duece had potential, but not with cowboys. This Jeanty may have potential, but only with the right coaches and team.

What do you guys think??

I think Deuce is better

(Since im posting in a completely idiotic thread)

 

[LACowboysFan1]

You can't just take away a guys longest carry and say "this is how he really played". He cracked 100 yards against a strong PSU defense, and that was probably his worst game of the year. How did he look against Oregon? If you're going to cite a poor performance against a playoff team, why would you overlook the fact that he put up 192 yards and 3 tds against the #1 team in the country, despite being the only real weapon on that offense?

Kellen Moore played some games in the NFL despite obvious physical limitations and went on to become one of the best playcallers in the game. He had a great mind, subpar body. Not a good comparison.

Time will tell.

Thanks for your post.

 

[LonnieElam]

Deuce was a pick because Jerry was enamoured with Sproles.

No, because his dad was on the staff.

 

[DandyDon52]

Do your own research. I don't blindly follow "every single person", mostly because I'm not the "only one".

But since you made that comment, I'll just quote DandyDon52 on this site:
"I don't think he is a round 1 or 2 pick, maybe 3rd or 4th at best."

Does he count as "ANYONE"?

But that's fine, we'll know in a year or two or three who's right, won't we? If I'm wrong, I'll be front and center saying I was wrong.

Will you do the same if you're wrong?

You remind me of cowboy Cas (or some screen name like that) on the old Dallas Cowboys fan site, we argued for months about how she claimed some linebacker for the Browns was a surefire HOF player, best in the league, etc. Well he never did squat and was out of the league in about 3 years. But did she come back on the site and say she was wrong?

Nope, never heard from her again.

Let's revisit Jeanty in a couple of years....

Yes I will eat crow if I am wrong.
And I am not saying he isnt good, I just dont think he will be as good in the nfl as he was in college.

It will also depend on the team he goes to, their OL and how they use him.
Also with cowboys do they need OL or DL, or do they want to take a RB in round 1 ??
If they take Jeanty in rd 1 he will have to run behind the line we have.
It will be interesting since shot wants to run more, maybe they take him.

 

[DandyDon52]

You don't like jeanty because of his size, then in the same post say you loved Gibbs, who he weighs more than and is the same height as....

Gibbs is a totally different style RB.
I dont like or dislike jeanty.

 

[DandyDon52]

Not sure how you can compare the best rb in the draft to a guy who only got drafted b/c his dad is on staff and has a grand total of 114 yards rushing in 2 seasons. Jeanty will probably get that week 1 in his first pro game.

I wasnt comparing the 2, except that they are small or short.
Duece never got a honest shot even in PS or after dak got hurt.
Let him play a whole game with 25 carries and then see how he does.

Jeanty might have avg 30 carries a game in college? The more carries a rb gets, the better than can do and greater chance they break
one.
Most nfl teams wont give jeanty more than 20 carries, so that will affect his production.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I wasnt comparing the 2, except that they are small or short.
Duece never got a honest shot even in PS or after dak got hurt.
Let him play a whole game with 25 carries and then see how he does.

Jeanty might have avg 30 carries a game in college? The more carries a rb gets, the better than can do and greater chance they break
one.
Most nfl teams wont give jeanty more than 20 carries, so that will affect his production.

Deuce had 72 yards rushing last season on a team desperate for a run game. His career 2.8 YPC isn't going to get him more carries. He's lucky to be playing in the NFL.

 

[TheSport78]

Larry Lacewell, is that you?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You can't just take away a guys longest carry and say "this is how he really played". He cracked 100 yards against a strong PSU defense, and that was probably his worst game of the year. How did he look against Oregon? If you're going to cite a poor performance against a playoff team, why would you overlook the fact that he put up 192 yards and 3 tds against the #1 team in the country, despite being the only real weapon on that offense?

Kellen Moore played some games in the NFL despite obvious physical limitations and went on to become one of the best playcallers in the game. He had a great mind, subpar body. Not a good comparison.

14 carries for 35 yards
21 carries for 44 yards

Guess who put those numbers up?

 

[phildadon86]

On a board where horrible things are posted daily, and peoples opinions are posted daily, this may be the worst take I have seen on this board. Ever.

 

[DFWJC]

People are still doing the Duece thing in the year 2025?

 

[DandyDon52]

Deuce had 72 yards rushing last season on a team desperate for a run game. His career 2.8 YPC isn't going to get him more carries. He's lucky to be playing in the NFL.

and how many carries did he get in each game ??
Most games would be 0, and if he gets 2-3 carries, that is meaningless, any RB might look bad.
In PS they could have given him a 25 carry game, what would it hurt??

 

[big dog cowboy]

No, because his dad was on the staff.

No. We know that is totally false.

 

[gtb1943]

and how many carries did he get in each game ??
Most games would be 0, and if he gets 2-3 carries, that is meaningless, any RB might look bad.
In PS they could have given him a 25 carry game, what would it hurt??

maybe because they KNOW he is not worth it

 

[TNCowboy]

He's really good. But I don't believe he's the elite difference maker at RB like a Henry or Peterson.

I don't think the difference between him and the 2nd round picks justifies a 1st round pick. I think the combination of an edge or DT plus a 2nd round pack, say Kaleb Johnson, is better overall than Jeanty plus a 2nd round DL.

 

[atlantacowboy]

and how many carries did he get in each game ??
Most games would be 0, and if he gets 2-3 carries, that is meaningless, any RB might look bad.
In PS they could have given him a 25 carry game, what would it hurt??

Well , as someone who thinks Uncle Rico is hilarious, I admire your logic. If only Duece got a chance, he could be Saquon barkley!

 

[DandyDon52]

Well , as someone who thinks Uncle Rico is hilarious, I admire your logic. If only Duece got a chance, he could be Saquon barkley!

Well I never said he would be great or even better than avg.
I said he should have got a better shot at showing something, than 2 carries in a game.
If they actually gave him time in ps, or reg season, then the pick would not seem so stupid as it is now.
Your saying they drafted a clown, to please his dad ???? Hmmmm.