Jeanty : Isnt he just a slightly better version of Deuce ? Not worth a round one pick

rambo2

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He sure was not a factor either. I would say they did a good job on him. I was not impressed at at all.

Henderson, Judkins, Singleton all could be better, and probably are better.

The OSU RB's went through a gauntlet of teams that supposedly had great defenses. We seen what they did in their 4 games. Which they also ran through Penn States defense in the regular season.
Jeanty basically disappeared in his bowl game, after beating up on weaker teams in the regular season.
How did he do against Oregon? Keep in mind his oline was inferior to the Oregon and Penn State defenses and it was Jeanty that carried that team to the playoffs. Jeanty is one of the best backs in college football history.
 

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How did he do against Oregon? Keep in mind his oline was inferior to the Oregon and Penn State defenses and it was Jeanty that carried that team to the playoffs. Jeanty is one of the best backs in college football history.
Tony Mandarich and Brian Boswell were considered as a few of the greatest college players at their positions as well.
Jeff George, Ryan Leaf ring a bell.

Even 2 time, and the only 2 time Heisman Trophy winner Archie Griffin was not successful in the NFL.

I am not saying he is not one of the better players in the draft. I am saying I was not impressed. And that I like other RB’s just as well if not better.

Don’t be all up in arms Because I disagree to a point.
 

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Tony Mandarich and Brian Boswell were considered as a few of the greatest college players at their positions as well.
Jeff George, Ryan Leaf ring a bell.

Even 2 time, and the only 2 time Heisman Trophy winner Archie Griffin was not successful in the NFL.

I am not saying he is not one of the better players in the draft. I am saying I was not impressed. And that I like other RB’s just as well if not better.

Don’t be all up in arms Because I disagree to a point.
It's going to be interesting what the football gods give us at 12. Jeanty, Mason Graham, Tet McMillan, Josh Simmons, Kelvin Banks, Benjamin Morrison, Mike Green, Emeka Egbuka, Luther Burden, Kenneth Grant, Walter Nolen, or Grey Zabel.
 

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not sure why i am defending Jeanty but he also played the no 1 team in the country Oregon and had 200 yards and 3 TDs,there are legitimate concerns about his workload(755 carries in college is almost double of most of his contemporaries) but he has elite traits.

:hammer:
 

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Jeanty is a stud.


But..


There is better value in this class.


Imagine trading down, getting a ton of picks, then taking Treyveon Henderson.

Henderson is a stud too.
 

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He had a 3.5 ypc average on 30 carries. That’s being shut down

But the beauty of the NFL is that if he’s so good that an entire defense has to focus solely on him then surely we could expose their pass defense unlike Boise.
 

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But the beauty of the NFL is that if he’s so good that an entire defense has to focus solely on him then surely we could expose their pass defense unlike Boise.
I think he is a good back but I’m not wasting the 12th overall on him.
 

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I think he is a good back but I’m not wasting the 12th overall on him.
Is that a waste though? We have no ground game. Dowdle might be good enough, but not on his own. The draft is replete with DL options. Could easily take one in the 2nd round. They’re not all going to struggle like Mazi.
 

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Is that a waste though? We have no ground game. Dowdle might be good enough, but not on his own. The draft is replete with DL options. Could easily take one in the 2nd round. They’re not all going to struggle like Mazi.
Quality backs can be found in r2-4 imo. Dt is the number 1 need and hopefully is bpa at 12
 

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Quality backs can be found in r2-4 imo. Dt is the number 1 need and hopefully is bpa at 12
Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but for me, Jeanty, if still available by the time we’re on the clock, is likely the bpa across the board. Question then is do you go with best DT available, or a potential HoF RB?
 

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Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but for me, Jeanty, if still available by the time we’re on the clock, is likely the bpa across the board. Question then is do you go with best DT available, or a potential HoF RB?
BPA at an area of need. Don’t overdraft based on needing a particular position. If BPA doesn’t fit a need trade back if possible.
 

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I think he is a good back but I’m not wasting the 12th overall on him.
I wouldn’t say it’s a waste.

I would agree that there will be much better value in round 2.

The problem the Cowboys will likely run in to is that Jeanty is a top 2 or 3 player in the entire draft and they can get him at 12 most likely.
 

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I have been seeing people here say get Jeanty !! lol
So I looked at his HL reel for 2024 , and my first thought, was this guy is another duece, only he has big thighs, and that enables him to run thru tackles at times,
But these are college guys who will never make the nfl. When Jeanty hits the pros, he wont be running thru tackles, and he wont have giant holes, and it will all be different.

I dont think he is a round 1 or 2 pick, maybe 3rd or 4th at best.

The other thing is dallas had no clue how to use duece, so I would have no reason to think they would know how to use Jeanty.
Dallas needs a standard size RB, that they can use in a standard way.

I thought Duece had potential, but not with cowboys. This Jeanty may have potential, but only with the right coaches and team.

What do you guys think??
If Jeanty runs low 4.4 or high 4.3, I could see the pick. Otherwise, Dline or Oline.
 

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If Jeanty runs low 4.4 or high 4.3, I could see the pick. Otherwise, Dline or Oline.
Emitt ran a .455. That's why he slipped down the draft. Course that's back when running backs had a lot more value.

PS. Blair Thomas was by far the number 1 running back that year and ran a 4.4.
 

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I have been seeing people here say get Jeanty !! lol
So I looked at his HL reel for 2024 , and my first thought, was this guy is another duece, only he has big thighs, and that enables him to run thru tackles at times,
But these are college guys who will never make the nfl. When Jeanty hits the pros, he wont be running thru tackles, and he wont have giant holes, and it will all be different.

I dont think he is a round 1 or 2 pick, maybe 3rd or 4th at best.

The other thing is dallas had no clue how to use duece, so I would have no reason to think they would know how to use Jeanty.
Dallas needs a standard size RB, that they can use in a standard way.

I thought Duece had potential, but not with cowboys. This Jeanty may have potential, but only with the right coaches and team.

What do you guys think??
Oh boy..... :facepalm: Stay with your day job is what I think :laugh:
 

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Jeanty weighs more than Dowdle. He is an every down back. He's a sturdy guy who's only 5'9". Same height as Emmitt. Jeanty's success or failure in the NFL won't have anything to do with his size
He’s been compared too Emmitt. A faster version actually
 

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Emitt ran a .455. That's why he slipped down the draft. Course that's back when running backs had a lot more value.

PS. Blair Thomas was by far the number 1 running back that year and ran a 4.4.
Emitt is known for a slow 40.
Barry Sanders 4.37 Saquon 4.40

The point is can Jeanty run against the NFL like the NCAA mountain west conf. For a 1st rounder today I think RB needs to have that burst to be a top 15 pick. The Penn State game didn’t help Jeanty. The team drafting knows it’s a one contract player and not 10 year player. Has to be special and not Melvin Gordon
 

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Emitt is known for a slow 40.
Barry Sanders 4.37 Saquon 4.40

The point is can Jeanty run against the NFL like the NCAA mountain west conf. For a 1st rounder today I think RB needs to have that burst to be a top 15 pick. The Penn State game didn’t help Jeanty. The team drafting knows it’s a one contract player and not 10 year player. Has to be special and not Melvin Gordon
Don't disagree with you. However Melvin never showed the contact balance and power Jeanty has shown. I do agree he most likely is a one contract player for anyone. Jerry is 82. Maybe he is fine having Jeanty for 5 years max. Time will tell.
 
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