Jerry: I feel very good about roster but would like to have more OL depth

[gimmesix]

I think it’s just mostly the weight room for both of them. Both guys keep their feet insanely well.

The way TJ combo blocks and pivots guys is…rare. At risk of sounding like I’m in love with the guy, he has some of the best feet I’ve seen for a guard coming out of college. He’s so active and yet there is almost 0 wasted movement. It’s hilarious watching him and then immediately watching Hoffman, who moves just as much but 90% of it is just wasted dancing.

Asim reminds me a lot of Steele in year 2 when he wasn’t awesome but was surprisingly good. His athleticism is good enough to get you through games at LT if Tyron goes down. He needs to do whatever off-season program Steele does, and I think he’s going to surprise people

It is tougher, too, to play tackle on this level than guard, where you are protected some, so that might make it easier if one of them does need to play. I mean, Tyler was good last year and there was so much he could have done better. It's just that difficult to succeed as a tackle as a rookie.

 

[Kwyn]

They added 2 rookies and 2 veterans. They signed Martin and Steele. What exactly were they supposed to do?

Anything but what they did is the popular answer.

Ideally, they should have traded a couple of late picks for some teams all-pro LG and RT. Maybe pick up Mahomes while we’re at it.

Did they do that? Noooooooo! 27 years!

 

[CCBoy]

Anything but what they did is the popular answer.

Ideally, they should have traded a couple of late picks for some teams all-pro LG and RT. Maybe pick up Mahomes while we’re at it.

Did they do that? Noooooooo! 27 years!

With the new math prove that one can even count to 27...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I’m not going to say Bass and/or Richards won’t be players and won’t trash them. That’s not the point. The point is when you have a weakness you go out and get a decent free agent or spend a high draft pick to try and solve it. There are never guarantees but to have an UDFA step up and be able to play would require some luck First off the player has to even pick your team and if the team felt they could be that player you can be darned sure they would have just drafted them even if it meant trading back into the draft to get him. a similar amount of luck is required with a veteran minimum free agent and a 3rd day draft pick.

here is the point. Jerry himself is stating (just like every one of us) the depth is an issue. you and I couldn’t do anything about it. he could have and still could if he, like he is saying, sees it as an issue. Those other teams don’t have a Tyron Smith who will no way play every game And when free agency and the draft took place Steele was not 100% going to be ready to start the year. On the other teams you mentioned, let’s compare what they did. The Eagles had the best OL in the league and drafted a 2nd rounder who is on the bench backing up. The giants drafted an OL in the 2nd round as well. Washington drafted an OL in the 3rd round. Washington also signed 4 free agents on the OL Including 2 starters. So every other team you mentioned did a lot more than us to help their OL including using a prime pick on the OL. Also, none of those teams have the $18M in cap space that we do.

We don't have to beat the ideal. We just have to beat our opponents. Our opponents including the best of them are in a similar circumstance.

Unlike our division opponents we did not lose any starters nor did we have any holes in our front line. Out 'weakness' was at backup. Most teams don't have a starting 22 like we do and we do have depth at most other positions.

The Eagles second round pick wasn't playing well, Washington had 4 holes along the OL and the Giants had 3. Yes they signed cheap free agents but they are no better than Edoga.

At the end of the day, the Eagles are going to have similar issues when their OL has an injury and the Giants and Commodes are one injury away from replacement players.

 

[Jarntt]

We don't have to beat the ideal. We just have to beat our opponents. Our opponents including the best of them are in a similar circumstance.

Unlike our division opponents we did not lose any starters nor did we have any holes in our front line. Out 'weakness' was at backup. Most teams don't have a starting 22 like we do and we do have depth at most other positions.

The Eagles second round pick wasn't playing well, Washington had 4 holes along the OL and the Giants had 3. Yes they signed cheap free agents but they are no better than Edoga.

At the end of the day, the Eagles are going to have similar issues when their OL has an injury and the Giants and Commodes are one injury away from replacement players.

Just re-read what. I wrote I’m not going off on a tangent with you. Jerry admits there’s an issue and did almost nothing to fix it. You can make up all the stuff you want but facts are facts and unlike other teams we have a starting OT who is one of the most fragile injury prone players in the NFL. We are one of Tyron’s soon to happen injuries from our depth starting. Justify it all you want but if you don’t admit our issue and how little we did to try and fix it (the latter part is the topic) you are just looking to argue. You guys brought up other teams and I proved to you every one of them did more than us this off-season with their OL.

 

[Typhus]

Hey man, Luke is gonna be a top 10, #2 TE before we know it!

Everybody wants the next Kelce.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just re-read what. I wrote I’m not going off on a tangent with you. Jerry admits there’s an issue and did almost nothing to fix it. You can make up all the stuff you want but facts are facts and unlike other teams we have a starting OT who is one of the most fragile injury prone players in the NFL. We are one of Tyron’s soon to happen injuries from our depth starting. Justify it all you want but if you don’t admit our issue and how little we did to try and fix it (the latter part is the topic) you are just looking to argue. You guys brought up other teams and I proved to you every one of them did more than us this off-season with their OL.

And despite that they have a worse or similar situation. They had to fix holes in their frontline. We did not.

They signed more scrap heap players to fill out their starting lineups sure but after all that they are even or worse than us.

I agreed we do not have ideal depth. No team does.

 

[rambo2]

Who said anything about just the 1st round pick? They had multiple picks and also could have signed a free agent.

What free agent? And where would they play? The 2 rookies that they did get have looked good so far.

 

[gimmesix]

What free agent? And where would they play? The 2 rookies that they did get have looked good so far.

I'm curious about Nick Martin. I know he played a little for the Commanders last year, but he doesn't seem to be with any team this year. Has his play declined too much to be better than the backup scrubs we have at center? Is he not wanting to play or asking too much to do it? It just seems like the perfect situation considering his brother is here.

I'm asking about him because I figure some of you watch more of other teams than I do and might know why he wouldn't be a consideration. I mean, I know he's not a great player considering he's bounced around the last few years in a backup role, but is he actually worse than Hoffman?

 

[kskboys]

What free agent? And where would they play? The 2 rookies that they did get have looked good so far.

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that maybe Jerry didn't do enough to address the OL? Honestly, he's admitting it himself, what's up w/ the denial thingie?

 

[Beaker42]

He doesn't know. If he did, he wouldn't have said that ignorant statement.

Seriously - either some of these folks are trolling or ignorant or both. How can someone say (and mean it) that we didn’t do anything. Maybe we could’ve gone after some other guys but we got guys in FA and the draft. I don’t get it.

 

[Gambit]

We drafted depth at DT, TE and LB this year... Why not a OL that has the potential to start as our line is aging... That exactly how we got here... we missed on both Conner's in previous draft that created this issue..

in the 5th round of the 2023 NFL Draft the Dallas Cowboys select Asim Richards T University of North Carolina

 

[Jarntt]

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that maybe Jerry didn't do enough to address the OL? Honestly, he's admitting it himself, what's up w/ the denial thingie?

exactly. It’s bizarre how some will defend the flag even on obvious topics like this. Heck even Jerry is admitting there is an issue here.

 

[rambo2]

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that maybe Jerry didn't do enough to address the OL? Honestly, he's admitting it himself, what's up w/ the denial thingie?

Maybe they did, see Richards and Bass. I don't know what you expect them to do. They thought about it in the 1st but decided on Mazi Smith. They very well could draft one in the 1st next year or they may decide they like Richards and Bass. We will see how it goes. I can't blame them for drafting Mazi and Schoonmaker. They are a good drafting team.

 

[rambo2]

exactly. It’s bizarre how some will defend the flag even on obvious topics like this. Heck even Jerry is admitting there is an issue here.

It is an issue league wide.

 

[Gambit]

I’m not going to say Bass and/or Richards won’t be players and won’t trash them. That’s not the point. The point is when you have a weakness you go out and get a decent free agent or spend a high draft pick to try and solve it. There are never guarantees but to have an UDFA step up and be able to play would require some luck First off the player has to even pick your team and if the team felt they could be that player you can be darned sure they would have just drafted them even if it meant trading back into the draft to get him. a similar amount of luck is required with a veteran minimum free agent and a 3rd day draft pick.

here is the point. Jerry himself is stating (just like every one of us) the depth is an issue. you and I couldn’t do anything about it. he could have and still could if he, like he is saying, sees it as an issue. Those other teams don’t have a Tyron Smith who will no way play every game And when free agency and the draft took place Steele was not 100% going to be ready to start the year. On the other teams you mentioned, let’s compare what they did. The Eagles had the best OL in the league and drafted a 2nd rounder who is on the bench backing up. The giants drafted an OL in the 2nd round as well. Washington drafted an OL in the 3rd round. Washington also signed 4 free agents on the OL Including 2 starters. So every other team you mentioned did a lot more than us to help their OL including using a prime pick on the OL. Also, none of those teams have the $18M in cap space that we do.

What high draft pick?

1st round, we've all seen the discussion they simply like Mazi at DT than Bergeron at OL. This was a McClay pick, he talked Jerry into it.

2nd round we didn't like Torrence anyway, didn't fit the system we play, and to spend a 2nd
on a back up lineman who doesn't fit your system makes no sense.

3rd we take Overshown, who prior to his injury was poised to be a big part of the Defense rotation and not convinced there was an OG who graded out higher in an area of need for us.

Just not convinced there was an OL worthy of a high round who either graded higher or filled a need and graded higher at same time

 

[Gambit]

We don't have to beat the ideal. We just have to beat our opponents. Our opponents including the best of them are in a similar circumstance.

Unlike our division opponents we did not lose any starters nor did we have any holes in our front line. Out 'weakness' was at backup. Most teams don't have a starting 22 like we do and we do have depth at most other positions.

The Eagles second round pick wasn't playing well, Washington had 4 holes along the OL and the Giants had 3. Yes they signed cheap free agents but they are no better than Edoga.

At the end of the day, the Eagles are going to have similar issues when their OL has an injury and the Giants and Commodes are one injury away from replacement players.

League wide there is this issue

 

[Jarntt]

What high draft pick?

1st round, we've all seen the discussion they simply like Mazi at DT than Bergeron at OL. This was a McClay pick, he talked Jerry into it.

2nd round we didn't like Torrence anyway, didn't fit the system we play, and to spend a 2nd
on a back up lineman who doesn't fit your system makes no sense.

3rd we take Overshown, who prior to his injury was poised to be a big part of the Defense rotation and not convinced there was an OG who graded out higher in an area of need for us.

Just not convinced there was an OL worthy of a high round who either graded higher or filled a need and graded higher at same time

Do you also need someone to help you with grammar? One guy skips the word “almost” and you the word “or”. Sometimes reading carefully before responding would help.

“The point is when you have a weakness you go out and get a decent free agent or spend a high draft pick to try and solve it.”

 

[Gambit]

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that maybe Jerry didn't do enough to address the OL? Honestly, he's admitting it himself, what's up w/ the denial thingie?

He's admitting he wishes we had more depth. This is distinctly different than admitting he didn't do enough

 

[Gambit]

Do you also need someone to help you with grammar? One guy skips the word “almost” and you the word “or”. Sometimes reading carefully before responding would help.

“The point is when you have a weakness you go out and get a decent free agent or spend a high draft pick to try and solve it.”

Yes, that is your claim. Now, I in an attempt to hold a normal discussion am asking you, what round would you spend the high draft pick for a back up OL?

And which lineman would you draft?

This is how conversations work.