Jerry: I'm reluctant to bet it all for just one year

[visionary]

We've operated in this manner for years. What are you giving a shot? We've given it a shot. We don't have much to show for it.

What's happening here is that the sting of the loss to the 49ers has worn off and now those predisposed to make excuses for Jerry and the Cowboys fall back to their warm place where they convince themselves everything is good in Dallas. It's difficult for some fans to admit that the reality is their franchise isn't very well run and that the results of the past two decades are more just bad luck than the fact the guy calling the shots for the past two decades is still the guy calling the shots now and is stubborn, arrogant and appears to not have learned all that much.

Exactly
You can see that in his “the 49ers and Cowboys haven’t won a SB in 26 years”
What a pathetic moron

 

[Sydla]

Shocking that Ken would build his team in a way that leads to failure every year.

But again, I struggle to find the consistency in his argument. He applauds the way we do things and not like how Philly does but then when the Dak criticism threads pop up, he's in there complaining that Dak doesn't have enough talent to succeed.

Which is it? Do we have a sound roster building model or do we lack talent that is hurting some of our key players' ability to succeed?

 

[Ken]

On one hand you say you would build the team closer to how Jerry does but then in the Dak threads you whine about the lack of talent on offense.

So which is it? Does Jerry have a sound model to roster building or does the team lack the talent necessary to allow Dak to take them to the SB?

PS - Your case is weak. The Eagles have been to two SBs in 5 years where in between they literally had to shed bad contracts, etc. Over Jerry's run as sole GM, the Eagles have been to 3 SBs, been in 7 NFCCGs and have something like 16 playoff wins. We have 4 postseason wins. That's it. But tell us again how one organization builds like children and we are doing it right. LOL.

I don't agree with everything the Cowboys do, that is why I said closer.

I would have dumped zeke and not resigned him. They strapped that weight to our offense. I would have added way more speed to our offense years ago. I also would have added a big nasty in the middle of our line years ago. I would have fired Moore, especially if I was hiring McCarthy, which I wouldn't have.

I agree with being a draft and develop team. I would have sprinkled in a few bigger trades/ FAs along the way and not completely forgo it.

I understand what the Eagles have done. I don't think what the Eagles did under Andy Reid is relevant to what we are talking about since around 2017.

 

[Jarntt]

For any of you hoping for an active offseason.
15:25 mark of the video. Jerry is asked after watching the Rams and Eagles approach to the Super Bowl what is the Cowboys plan. He says he knows how to do what those teams have done but if you miss it's a long way back. He's reluctant to go all in for a year. He thinks long term.



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As an added bonus you can go back to the 13:25 mark and hear how they didn't mismanage the WR position by trading Cooper for nothing. It was relying too much on Jalen Tolbert that was the mistake. How do you address it this year? "We need Tolbert to come on as a young player".

And lastly back to 17:35 you can hear Jerry's sales pitch to you for 2023 when asked how he gets fans excited for next year.

"Dwell on the fact that we have some of the best personnel in the NFL. Dwell on the fact that you have Dak. Focus on that."

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And one more gem right after. The yearly man in the mirror talk.

"There's been a lot of change here over the last 25 years the same way there would have been had you changed GMs and Owners. I have to change in my mirror. I want to emphasize that."

Jerry is on the 30 year plan and it's about to pay off Big Time...

 

[jgboys1]

Going all in would be mega-mega-mega stooooopid given current situ. I know lots of you are thinking with your hearts, but it makes zero sense.

Dak isn't an elite qb. Zeke is dead. Tyron Smith near the end end.

Truthfully a 1-year reset would be far better if you want a championship in the next few years. Clear the books, go 3-14 and draft a QB. The disappointment is that Jerry does just enough to keep things competitive and interesting, but only half measures. 1-year-rebuild is in order.

^^^THIS^^^
Bite the bullet for 2023. Get out of bad contracts as soon as you can, draft a QB and reload for a better season in 2024. Sometimes it is better to take a step or 2 back and then go forward. This team has pretty much been spinning it's wheels for the past 28 years. Not going to do anything with Dak and Zeke in the backfield anyway.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

But again, I struggle to find the consistency in his argument. He applauds the way we do things and not like how Philly does but then when the Dak criticism threads pop up, he's in there complaining that Dak doesn't have enough talent to succeed.

Which is it? Do we have a sound roster building model or do we lack talent that is hurting some of our key players' ability to succeed?

You have to consider the source here. He's not a Cowboys fan.

He thinks Dak is great and would build a team the same way Jerry does.

Does that sound like a Cowboys fan to you? Because to me it sounds like someone that wants the Cowboys to keep doing things the wrong way.

 

[Ken]

Shocking that Ken would build his team in a way that leads to failure every year.

Shocking that you would hitch your wagon to the obvious.

I know...you were saying all along the Nick Foles would beat Tom Brady's Pat's. I just know it.

Meanwhile, they play that game 10 times and the pats win 9 of them.

 

[Sydla]

I don't agree with everything the Cowboys do, that is why I said closer.

I would have dumped zeke and not resigned him. They strapped that weight to our offense. I would have added way more speed to our offense years ago. I also would have added a big nasty in the middle of our line years ago. I would have fired Moore, especially if I was hiring McCarthy, which I wouldn't have.

I agree with being a draft and develop team. I would have sprinkled in a few bigger trades/ FAs along the way and not completely forgo it.

I understand what the Eagles have done. I don't think what the Eagles did under Andy Reid is relevant to what we are talking about since around 2017.

Those are quite a few differences between how you would do it and how they do it now.

I think you are having an internal battle with yourself where you want to defend the Cowboys but also defend Dak and those are on two different ends of the talent/roster building spectrum.

What the Eagles have done over the 27 years of Jerry as GM is entirely relevant. Because they've gone through different models of building teams, often using FA more than we have, and continue to have success that dwarfs us. So it's bizarre that one would try to claim we do it better than another franchise that has had way more success than we have had. The results speak for themselves.

 

[Ken]

You have to consider the source here. He's not a Cowboys fan.

He thinks Dak is great and would build a team the same way Jerry does.

Does that sound like a Cowboys fan to you? Because to me it sounds like someone that wants the Cowboys to keep doing things the wrong way.

My 40 years of Cowboys Fandom and never missing a game in over 20 years would beg to differ.

 

[visionary]

If you watch the video and listen real close you can hear the music for Titanic

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

My 40 years of Cowboys Fandom and never missing a game in over 20 years would beg to differ.

Anybody could say that.

 

[visionary]

My 40 years of Cowboys Fandom and never missing a game in over 20 years would beg to differ.

LOL

 

[Sydla]

Shocking that you would hitch your wagon to the obvious.

I know...you were saying all along the Nick Foles would beat Tom Brady's Pat's. I just know it.

Meanwhile, they play that game 10 times and the pats win 9 of them.

It doesn't matter what people thought Foles would do.

They did it. They won. They had a roster of vets. They had some bloated contracts. They gave Wentz a massive contract that they eventually were desperate to get out of only a year later. According to Jerry, and some on this board, they should have been walking aimlessly for a long time geting out from under that crap.

And yet 5 years later, they are back in the SB, as the favoriate, with one of the most talented teams in the NFL and in the offseason they have two first round picks on top of that.

Trying to argue that Philly does it wrong is downright laughable at this point. Who on this board wouldn't take what Philly has done the last 5 years (which includes a 4-12 season)?

 

[visionary]

Anybody could say that.

Not in 5th grade
Ken is ahead of his time

 

[Ken]

Those are quite a few differences between how you would do it and how they do it now.

I think you are having an internal battle with yourself where you want to defend the Cowboys but also defend Dak and those are on two different ends of the talent/roster building spectrum.

What the Eagles have done over the 27 years of Jerry as GM is entirely relevant. Because they've gone through different models of building teams, often using FA more than we have, and continue to have success that dwarfs us. So it's bizarre that one would try to claim we do it better than another franchise that has had way more success than we have had. The results speak for themselves.

Right, I differ in how exactly I would build this team but my approach is closer to what they do than what the Eagpes or Rams do.

The Rams I would never do, they flat mortgage their future for instant gratification. It worked for them but easily couldn't have.

At least the Eagles don't completely give up their future and do find key pieces in the draft.

Everything I listed that I differ with I have posted before they do those decisions. Just like how Daron Payne would be an absolute get this offseason and letting our rbs walk, along with Tyron Smith being traded.

We will see what they do.

 

[Ken]

Anybody could say that.

Right...but not somebody who has a least the last 20 of them auditable on this very site.

Duh.

 

[Ken]

LOL

Failing to see why this reaction is necessary to that factual statement but ok.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

So by long-term does he mean over 27 years?

 

[Ken]

It doesn't matter what people thought Foles would do.

They did it. They won. They had a roster of vets. They had some bloated contracts. They gave Wentz a massive contract that they eventually were desperate to get out of only a year later. According to Jerry, and some on this board, they should have been walking aimlessly for a long time geting out from under that crap.

And yet 5 years later, they are back in the SB, as the favoriate, with one of the most talented teams in the NFL and in the offseason they have two first round picks on top of that.

Trying to argue that Philly does it wrong is downright laughable at this point. Who on this board wouldn't take what Philly has done the last 5 years (which includes a 4-12 season)?

IF Philly loses in the SB and has to tear down their team and loses coaches...

Then they have to do it again. That is the risk/reward of building the team for the here and now. Not sure they will be able to use both of those 1sts btw...cap is an issue.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Right...but not somebody who has a least the last 20 of them auditable on this very site.

Duh.

20 years of trolling Cowboys fan that want to see the team succeed?

Congrats. That's impressive.