Jerry: I'm reluctant to bet it all for just one year

[Pola_pe_a]

They have no cap room, a BUNCH of free agents and little ways to actually free up space.

I woke up a long time ago, perhaps you should take your own advice.

Since Howie is one of the best cap mangers in the league I’m not worried. And FYI they have more cap room than Dallas.
Philly 4 million
Dallas -7 million

They can free up plenty of more space by reworking Darius Slay’s and Lane Johnson’s deal. Moving on from Fletcher Cox etc.

 

[G2]

Who? Most coaching vacancies already filled
If they win the SB it doesn’t matter anyway

When Philly is done playing, Brian Johnson would be on my list to promote.

 

[texbumthelife]

Oh, I see, 30-freaking years is the fast way. All this dude cares about is being relevant.

 

[Stash]

We’ll be good but not great.

 

[tyke1doe]

I guess 27 years of doing the same ole same ole isn't a long way back in Jerry's mind.

 

[Frosty]

What is evident is that he is incapable of doing what Howie Roseman is doing in Philly or John Lynch is doing in SF. He plays it off like he is making a choice, but in reality, it is the only choice he can make.

In capable NO. They can do it…if they want to but it’s not the Cowboys business model. Jones are about maximizing profits not football operations

 

[Ken]

Since Howie is one of the best cap mangers in the league I’m not worried. And FYI they have more cap room than Dallas.
Philly 4 million
Dallas -7 million

They can free up plenty of more space by reworking Darius Slay’s and Lane Johnson’s deal. Moving on from Fletcher Cox etc.

Right...reworking a 32 year old CBs contract and a 32 year old Lane Johnson's contract is not ideal. They could get to around 20 mill or so.

Cowboys can easily free up $68 million.

They can't do anything with Cox's deal btw. They are already eating a ton of Dead cap from him after designating him a June 1 last year and then resigning him. If they cut him or he retires (both likely) he will cost them another 6 mill.

 

[phildadon86]

It's not sound at all. Their philosophy of relying on the draft and going cheap in FA simply isn't how you win Super Bowls in this league. You, at most, will hit on one player in the draft and you'll be lucky to get all those guys on a second contract.

It's a terrible philosophy that keeps you out of playoffs or has you losing early. The recent teams to win Super Bowls were aggressive in FA. Every single one.

Especially when you draft problem players in the second.

 

[gtb1943]

Right...reworking a 32 year old CBs contract and a 32 year old Lane Johnson's contract is not ideal. They could get to around 20 mill or so.

Cowboys can easily free up $68 million.

They can't do anything with Cox's deal btw. They are already eating a ton of Dead cap from him after designating him a June 1 last year and then resigning him. If they cut him or he retires (both likely) he will cost them another 6 mill.

amazing how much loyalty a secretary has for Jethro

 

[Sydla]

IF Philly loses in the SB and has to tear down their team and loses coaches...

Then they have to do it again. That is the risk/reward of building the team for the here and now. Not sure they will be able to use both of those 1sts btw...cap is an issue.

Even if Philly loses in the SB, they built a better team than we did. They got way farther than we did. Who wouldn't take the Cowboys in the SB twice in 5 years with one SB win? No one.

And you overstate how much they will have to tear it down. But then again, they tore down after the 2017 SB and guess what? Here they are again. Gun to head, who here would pick the Cowboys to reach a SB before the Eagles going forward? Only the homers would pick the team that hasn't been to a SB IN 27 years over a team that has been to two in 5 years where they had a rebuild in between appearances.

Again, belitting what Philly does is hilarious.

PS - They will use both firsts unless they use one for a trade. What do you mean they can't use both firsts due to their cap?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

We've operated in this manner for years. What are you giving a shot? We've given it a shot. We don't have much to show for it.

What's happening here is that the sting of the loss to the 49ers has worn off and now those predisposed to make excuses for Jerry and the Cowboys fall back to their warm place where they convince themselves everything is good in Dallas. It's difficult for some fans to admit that the reality is their franchise isn't very well run and that the results of the past two decades are more just bad luck than the fact the guy calling the shots for the past two decades is still the guy calling the shots now and is stubborn, arrogant and appears to not have learned all that much.

People keep telling me that Jerry is GM in name only. Lol

 

[Sydla]

They have no cap room, a BUNCH of free agents and little ways to actually free up space.

I woke up a long time ago, perhaps you should take your own advice.

Of course, this isn't entirely true. They can free up some cap space. For example, they can extend Hargrave and save $10 million in cap space right there. That would be more than enough space to cover their draft picks.

Again, they had cap issues after 2017 and on top of that had to eat massive amounts of dead money for Wentz. And yet, here they are. But apparently Ken knows more than arguably the best GM in football.

 

[phildadon86]

I just laid out the case for why the Rams and Eagles build their team's like children.

I believe the case is laid out there....it's not how I would build a football team. It would be closer to how the Cowboys and 49ers build their teams.

It just hasn't worked out for them yet.

Funny that you bring up San Fran. The team that TRADED for CMC and wound up in the NFCCG.

 

[Gaede]

With all due respect I think they know exactly what they are doing . Their priorities are not winning a championship now but rather remaining relevant, interesting and consistent .

Worse case scenario Jethro and Son is starting over or hitting rock bottom. 12 win playoff seasons is their primary goal. It keeps fans engulfed with hope for each season . And it keeps them tuned in, at the turnstile and buying merchandise for their favorite stars.

It’s good entertainment sports business. Just probably not going to produce championships. It could but not as likely in this era.

Good point. Excellent point actually.

These results are the results they want.

 

[Sydla]

Since Howie is one of the best cap mangers in the league I’m not worried. And FYI they have more cap room than Dallas.
Philly 4 million
Dallas -7 million

They can free up plenty of more space by reworking Darius Slay’s and Lane Johnson’s deal. Moving on from Fletcher Cox etc.

They can resign Hargrave as well to save up to $10 million in cap space.

One nit though. Cox ain't saving them cap space if he's cut. His dead money eats into their cap savings. He has a $10 million dead money hit as a pre-June 1 cut. They'd actually have to advance $6 million against the cap as a pre June 1 cut. They only save $1.5 million post June 1. The problem with Cox is that he has 2-3 years of those dummy contract years Howie has used where they jammed restructure money into. Now they have to pay the piper.

 

[Blitzen]

What is evident is that he is incapable of doing what Howie Roseman is doing in Philly or John Lynch is doing in SF. He plays it off like he is making a choice, but in reality, it is the only choice he can make.

Yeah, I know he has deluded himself into thinking he had much to do with the 90’s Super Bowl teams. He bought the team and was fortunate to have hired his ex-roommate who was a hall of fame in waiting coach. He’s a hall of fame marketer

 

[Ken]

amazing how much loyalty a secretary has for Jethro

Amazing how you got nothing to refute what I wrote.

 

[fivetwos]

The ultimate in delusion has got to be an 80 year old thinking long term.

 

[Ken]

Of course, this isn't entirely true. They can free up some cap space. For example, they can extend Hargrave and save $10 million in cap space right there. That would be more than enough space to cover their draft picks.

Again, they had cap issues after 2017 and on top of that had to eat massive amounts of dead money for Wentz. And yet, here they are. But apparently Ken knows more than arguably the best GM in football.

Hargraves deal voids before the start of the fiscal season 23.

Unless you think he will forgo his chance to get a mega contract in FA? When it voids it will be 4 mill in dead cap.

This is an example of why it is frustrating trying to have serious football conversations with people who are just cheerleaders of other teams.

 

[fivetwos]

Of course, this isn't entirely true. They can free up some cap space. For example, they can extend Hargrave and save $10 million in cap space right there. That would be more than enough space to cover their draft picks.

Again, they had cap issues after 2017 and on top of that had to eat massive amounts of dead money for Wentz. And yet, here they are. But apparently Ken knows more than arguably the best GM in football.

Teams that aren’t run by unqualified people find a way to make supposed cap problems work out somehow.

In Dallas it’s an excuse to not sign free agents because they don’t know the rest of the league the way a GM should, and they want money for their own draftees because lifetime Cowboys sell merchandise.