Jerry Jones accused of sexual assault

[daveferr33]

There are some reports surfacing now which I can't link to, but that suggest the accuser in this case was perhaps not just a stripper and might have been working as an escort about the time this was occurring. That's not to say that an escort can't be sexually assaulted, obviously. But it does blur an already blurry line further.

And certainly complicates the "consent" issue.

But I don't think it ever comes to that. I think the statute of limitations defense will get this dismissed early.

 

[TheDude]

How do you figure that?

Comment #1 makes a statement about strippers. Oh, and by the way, anybody with even a lil knowledge about them knows this is a fair statement. He was actually being kind.

Comment #2 says he will withhold judgment. Based on comment #1 its reasonable to not jump on the bash Jerry bandwagon unless there is something other than the word of a money grabbing hoe trying to extort money. Why would anyone just assume Jerry assaulted anyone in this situation when everything about it would seem to indicate anything but assault?

No contradiction whatsoever in the 2 statements/comments. Even those who struggle with reading comprehension really would have to stretch things to see a contradiction.

Comment #1 is as blatant a stereotype and judgmental comment as there is.

There was a porn star and dancer christy mack who just got her face broken by her ex MMA fighter "War Machine". That statement basically says she could have done to herself and blamed him.

That comment left no room for nuance or situational judgment.

Being in a hard rock band in LA back in 1990-92, I knew plenty of strippers, and some were forced into it for the money but pretty honest compared to the many " cool, rich daddy's girls".

Does this story have problems- absolutely. One being " how are you forced to hang around and take pictures of other people who don't look like they have a gun to their head?". Being a stripper isn't relevent

 

[Idgit]

...Being in a hard rock band in LA back in 1990-92, I knew plenty of strippers, and some were forced into it for the money but pretty honest compared to the many " cool, rich daddy's girls"....

Tidbits like this turn men into minor gods in my book.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Does this story have problems- absolutely. One being " how are you forced to hang around and take pictures of other people who don't look like they have a gun to their head?". Being a stripper isn't relevent

Yes the story has some apparent holes. And one of them is her taking pictures as you said.

Some of you get all bent out of shape over stereotypes. Right or wrong they exist for a reason. If Mother Teresa had made these claims nobody would be saying about her what is being said about the stripper. And there is a reason why people are saying what they are saying about the stripper. So yea, stereotypes are relevant if for no other reason than perception.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

There are some reports surfacing now which I can't link to, but that suggest the accuser in this case was perhaps not just a stripper and might have been working as an escort about the time this was occurring. That's not to say that an escort can't be sexually assaulted, obviously. But it does blur an already blurry line further.

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

 

[Longboysfan]

Looks like there are some fact issues (i.e., "Consent") that would preclude the grant of such a motion. The article states: "Bowers [the plaintiff's attorney] would not say how Jones forced Weckerly to submit to the alleged assault." That said, I have no idea what theory should could possibly use against a 71 year old man.

Under the statute, there are a variety of theories available:

§ 22.011. SEXUAL ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an
offense if the person:
(1) intentionally or knowingly:
(A) causes the penetration of the anus or sexual
organ of another person by any means, without that person's
consent;
(B) causes the penetration of the mouth of
another person by the sexual organ of the actor, without that
person's consent; or
(C) causes the sexual organ of another person,
without that person's consent, to contact or penetrate the mouth,
anus, or sexual organ of another person, including the actor; or
...............................
(b) A sexual assault under Subsection (a)(1) is without the
consent of the other person if:
(1) the actor compels the other person to submit or
participate by the use of physical force or violence;
(2) the actor compels the other person to submit or
participate by threatening to use force or violence against the
other person, and the other person believes that the actor has the
present ability to execute the threat;
(3) the other person has not consented and the actor
knows the other person is unconscious or physically unable to
resist;
(4) the actor knows that as a result of mental disease
or defect the other person is at the time of the sexual assault
incapable either of appraising the nature of the act or of resisting
it;
(5) the other person has not consented and the actor
knows the other person is unaware that the sexual assault is
occurring;
(6) the actor has intentionally impaired the other
person's power to appraise or control the other person's conduct by
administering any substance without the other person's knowledge;
(7) the actor compels the other person to submit or
participate by threatening to use force or violence against any
person, and the other person believes that the actor has the ability
to execute the threat;
(8) the actor is a public servant who coerces the other
person to submit or participate;
(9) the actor is a mental health services provider or a
health care services provider who causes the other person, who is a
patient or former patient of the actor, to submit or participate by
exploiting the other person's emotional dependency on the actor;
(10) the actor is a clergyman who causes the other
person to submit or participate by exploiting the other person's
emotional dependency on the clergyman in the clergyman's
professional character as spiritual adviser; or
(11) the actor is an employee of a facility where the
other person is a resident, unless the employee and resident are
formally or informally married to each other under Chapter 2,
Family Code.

So reading this...
I goess Bill Clinton is lucky he was doing Monica in DC and not in Texas???

 

[joseephuss]

And certainly complicates the "consent" issue.

But I don't think it ever comes to that. I think the statute of limitations defense will get this dismissed early.

That is a good point. This lawsuit missed the 5 year window by a few months.

 

[joseephuss]

Yes the story has some apparent holes. And one of them is her taking pictures as you said.

Some of you get all bent out of shape over stereotypes. Right or wrong they exist for a reason. If Mother Teresa had made these claims nobody would be saying about her what is being said about the stripper. And there is a reason why people are saying what they are saying about the stripper. So yea, stereotypes are relevant if for no other reason than perception.

Nope I have not got bent out of shape over stereotypes. I just found it peculiar that there was a call out not to use them in reference to Jerry, but it was okay to use them in reference to the stripper/escort. To me there is no rule that says you can't use them for either party.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Nope I have not got bent out of shape over stereotypes. I just found it peculiar that there was a call out not to use them in reference to Jerry, but it was okay to use them in reference to the stripper/escort. To me there is no rule that says you can't use them for either party.

What stereotype would be applied to Jerry?

Sleezeball?

Drunk?

Cheater?

Player?

Womanizer?

 

[Doomsay]

Thank god she is a potential stripper / call girl, Jerry can prevail. Because that is what is important in this case, challenging the veracity of the young woman that he was fondling on tape and stuff.

 

[daveferr33]

That is a good point. This lawsuit missed the 5 year window by a few months.

I didn't know it was a 5 year statute of limitations. I thought it was two years. However, the plaintiff is going to attempt to argue that the statute is tolled (suspended) by Jerry Jones' periodic absences from the state. I think its a stretch, especially with regard to the Cowboys because they were never absent from the state.

 

[Doomsay]

First in with the SOL.....

There might be a 5 year civil SOL on sexual harassment - which might be what the timing of this suit is about. Unfortunately, there is no statute on management incompetence from a fan perspective.[\quote]

 

[Idgit]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Right? I thought they were interesting. Who knows what's real and what's planted with this stuff, though.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Right? I thought they were interesting. Who knows what's real and what's planted with this stuff, though.

The leap from stripper to escort is not hard to believe at all. Especially since a lot of them use the stripper position to attract clients.

 

[Doomsay]

Right? I thought they were interesting. Who knows what's real and what's planted with this stuff, though.

What married man and representative of an NFL franchise should be in a *****'s closet in the first place?

 

[joseephuss]

I didn't know it was a 5 year statute of limitations. I thought it was two years. However, the plaintiff is going to attempt to argue that the statute is tolled (suspended) by Jerry Jones' periodic absences from the state. I think its a stretch, especially with regard to the Cowboys because they were never absent from the state.

2 years for criminal case and 5 years for civil is what I had read earlier today.

 

[joseephuss]

Thank god she is a potential stripper / call girl, Jerry can prevail. Because that is what is important in this case, challenging the veracity of the young woman that he was fondling on tape and stuff.

The woman who filed the suit isn't the same woman that is in the picture.

 

[Doomsay]

The woman who filed the suit isn't the same woman that is in the picture.

Why is Jerry in any picture fondling a breast that his not his wife's?

 

[joseephuss]

Why is Jerry in any picture fondling a breast that his not his wife's?

Legit question. I don't want to see a picture of him fondling his wife's breast, either.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I wonder if he hasn't had some issues in the past that were kept quiet. Maybe the organization was told to keep an eye on the old perv and
they ignored that. Who knows.

It's possible. There is no telling with this crazy old man.