Jerry Jones and NFLPA working to change NFL Marijuana policy

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marijuana is harmful, and leads to making worse decisions.

Jerry's now advocating for its use in the NFL??? Not surprising, since he's just drafted Taco and Cheeto.

Seriously though, another stupid decision by ol' Jerry.
 

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Is the role of my employer law enforcement? Is the role of most of them? Yet they have drug policies in place. We can be tested and if we test positive, we can be fired. I don't see anything different here.

If you take part in a legal activity, then your employer has the right to take action on that activity. Right now, smoking marijuana is an illegal activity on the federal level.

I have no idea what you do but drug testing is expensive and typically it is done as a requirement from workers comp or some other form of liability insurance.

Marijuana is included with heroin because of a Nixon policy and they are tested together. If you were to ask for actuarial proof that pot increases risk they will show you the results for testing the whole. They cannot justify pot in isolation.

And let's be clear here: the NFL is not a company like the one you work for. The NFL is a trust and only able to act under a CBA. Jerry Jones who owns an independent firm should be the one making the decision whether or not he wants players who smoke pot or anything else. His desire is plain.
 

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marijuana is harmful, and leads to making worse decisions.

Jerry's now advocating for its use in the NFL??? Not surprising, since he's just drafted Taco and Cheeto.

Seriously though, another stupid decision by ol' Jerry.

So what do you make of licensed medical doctors prescribing it for therapy?
 

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marijuana is harmful, and leads to making worse decisions.

Jerry's now advocating for its use in the NFL??? Not surprising, since he's just drafted Taco and Cheeto.

Seriously though, another stupid decision by ol' Jerry.

Wrong -- actually, smoking weed is much more likely to lead to being overcautious than reckless.

You sound like someone who has been watching "Reefer Madness" and actually took it seriously.
 

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Wrong -- actually, smoking weed is much more likely to lead to being overcautious than reckless.

You sound like someone who has been watching "Reefer Madness" and actually took it seriously.

So, you think marijuana leads to clearer thinking... better decisions, then... huh?
 

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Well this won't take long to get approved. It's become blatantly obvious in the NFL these days, once Jerry gets on board and starts to push something, it gets done pretty quickly. I expect the same here!
 

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regarding moss/stepnoski, when did the pot policy get enforced seriously?
is gregory just completely incompetent beyond bipolar?

They still have not. It's really easy to pass for most everything but pot because most drugs are not fat soluble and leave the system after a week.

Pot is fat soluble so it stays in your system for a month or more as it leaches out of body fat over time. If he has a debilitating anxiety disorder, severe mania, depression or whatever it is then going a month without your meds is a tall order.
 

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Gateway. I don't have to show you. I just can cite examples of stupid people who moved on to worse to prove it. Stop asking questions.

The explain why coke, meth, and heroin use has not gone up in Colorado.

Legalizing it takes marijuana out of the markets where those things are pushed. The gateway effect then goes away.

What actually decreases inhibitions and gets people more likely to do harder drugs is alcohol.
 

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It is like a lot in our society. Protect us from our own stupidity. Legislate it. Then it gets twisted into other avenues.

I don't have sympathy for players that flunk tests now. But I know enough about society in general to know the tide is shifting. Couple that will opiod use, which is far worse and rampant, it is a smart compromise.

If anything banning substances is the nanny state where you are legislating people's ability to make their own decision away from them. You're just being mindlessly conservative and put little thought into your ideology.
 

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Seriously, a player can be prescribed THC by using the Rx drug Marinol, strictly for medical purposes, much like other such substances that are banned in the workplace, like opiate analgesics. In most cases, the metabolites of these Rx drugs are specifically identified on drug screening, and the patient is safe due to his prescription.

Now, I'm not saying that the team Doc should be writing blanket Rx's, but a bona fide diagnosis through appropriate subspecialists may warrant THC therapy, and in such a case the NFL should allow such treatment since the medical field does.

A similar conundrum exists with the use of low-dose amphetamine salts for the treatment of ADD or ADHD.
If your car is searched ('cause you look suspicious) and your bottle of Adderall is found in the glove box, there is not a problem as long as it it current, has your name on it, and the count is correct relative to the dosing schedule.

OTOH, if you have crushed a few of those pills and put them in a sandwich ziplock, your dumb*** is goin to the slammer.

Even if you have some lose pills, intact, no printing on them, just laying in the drink holder, you're probably gonna be hauled in on suspicion.
They have to stay in the bottle even if you have an Rx, or you might be diverting them; that would be a controlled substance uncontrolled.

So, weed in its raw form is still federally illegal, just like methamphetamine. In Rx pill form, on a controlled dosing schedule and monitored by a certified professional, it's not.

All hail our pharmaceutical overlords and the AMA!
 

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Actually, alcohol is the gateway.

Sugar, bad food is more of a drain on the economy and health than marijuana would ever be.

Once you calculate the reduced the load on law enforcement, the prison system, and the courts and then consider the boon to farmers, retailers, distributors, and their tax payments it comes out to quite the net profit.
 
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