Jerry Jones has been hanging Romo and Dak out to dry! Statistical Evidence

[DFWJC]

Eli threw for 160 on 12 complete passes that game.........again it was a wierd game but Eli did not "Clutch" anything we had 11 penalties to their 3 and even out rushed and passed them....again their D (the start of a great D playoff run) had huge plays when it mattered and ours folded at the wrong times....The Goff game just stop.... Anderson rushed for over 100 yards and he wasn't even playing football most of the season before that. Again everything does not always mean "We need a better QB" Rodgers of course Farve HOF for sure....Eli getting in the HOF will be debated forever for a reason and Goff and Jimmy G are not considered clutch by anyone but someone trying to make a point that just is not there.

Eli goes home that day if Patrick Crayton just doesn't pull up on his route with 17 seconds left.
That defense carried Eli in those 2007 playoffs. I mean, they held the highest scoring team of all time--the Pats- to 14 points.

People also forget that Eli is the NFL's all-time leader in playoff one-and-dones with 4.

 

[Redline360]

Eli goes home that day if Patrick Crayton just doesn't pull up on his route with 17 seconds left.
That defense carried Eli in 2007. I mean, they held the highest scoring team of all time--the Pats- to 14 points.

People also forget that Eli is the NFL's all-time leader in playoff one-and-dones with 4.

Perfect example why Romo gets the unwanted "choke" label.

We had no reason to lose that game. Crayton also dropped an argurable huge TD or play that could have went for huge yards

2016 the OL might as well have been a pile of trash cans. Romo looked like mahomes vs bucs

 

[DallasEast]

Eli goes home that day if Patrick Crayton just doesn't pull up on his route with 17 seconds left.
That defense carried Eli in 2007. I mean, they held the highest scoring team of all time--the Pats- to 14 points.

People also forget that Eli is the NFL's all-time leader in playoff one-and-dones with 4.

Perfect example why Romo gets the unwanted "choke" label.

We had no reason to lose that game. Crayton also dropped an argurable huge TD or play that could have went for huge yards

Let's not forget the defense's total collapse in the final minute of the second quarter led to a Giants' touchdown, which also factored into the margin of loss. And when I say "defense" I really mean Jacques Reeves.

 

[Cowfan75]

Ironic part is that the rams lost more than they got in fa.


it’s just that most don’t know that or see that.

Rams got Wagner and lost von Miller.

Nobody knows it or has seen it because the season hasn't happened yet. But they won the Super Bowl last year because they did what Jerry will never do, and that is get serious in FA. Does it work every single time? No. Will it ever work Jerry's way? No.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nobody knows it or has seen it because the season hasn't happened yet. But they won the Super Bowl last year because they did what Jerry will never do, and that is get serious in FA. Does it work every single time? No. Will it ever work Jerry's way? No.

Like I said, they lost more than they got, so it really was like doing nothing.

 

[kskboys]

I couldn't agree more. Two millionaires playing fantasy football with a real NFL franchise. And to make matters worse they never learn from past mistakes. They have no football philosophy. Their strategy regarding personnel changes year to year. One year they overlook the back up QB and pay dearly (2015). Realize the mistake and invest draftee in a backup (2016). Only to totally disregard the back up LT position (2017). Every year is hit and miss because there is not a clear direction for the team.

Also the lack of direction shows up when they hire coaches or replace personnel. Hire a 3-4 coach in Nolan and give him 4-3 personnel. Get rid of a declining Dez Bryant and replace him with Allen Hurns. Same this year with Amari Cooper. Get rid of him and replace him with James Washington who hasn't done diddley squat in his career. We've been having issues with the swing tackle since we rolled Chaz Green vs Atlanta in 2017 and 5 years later our swing tackles candidates are Josh Ball and some other dudes that I cant even remember their names.

There's only one constant the past 28 years: The GM in training is still in the learning process and he's not showing signs of improving.

I think he's gotten worse, because he's tried everything he can think of and nothing has worked.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Article summary: It’s a team game. Very few QBs are good enough to lead teams with underachieving units to a Lombardi. (Even Elway and Marino couldn’t do it.) And those that don’t benefit as often from a well-balanced strong team better play ‘Eli Manning lights out’ the one season it does work out, because they may never get another chance.

 

[plasticman]

Hold up.....

While i would like to believe that this study is a true indication of the help that these quarterbacks received, I must temper this information with another study that would show the percentages of the salary cap dedicated to the defense.

Where and to whom did the cap money go to?

Between 2006 and 2010, no NFL team had more Pro Bowl seasons generated by their offensive lines than the Dallas Cowboys. We all know about the kind of offensive line in front of Dak. In his rookie season three of the five were 1st team All Pro. This means that three of the linemen protecting him were considered the best at their position in the entire league.

Wouldn't that kind of "help' be a little more direct, a little more useful?

Let's talk receivers.

Did Jerry and the Cowboys prioritize that position somewhat in Dak's case? Did they make some effort to go out and acquire quality players for that position? That costs money, They had to pay those guys. If money is being poured into the offense, how does that affect their ability to go out and upgrade the defense?

Tony Romo was given a pair of Hall of Famers to work with. We all know who his best friend on the team was, a guy by the name of Jason Witten. And do you also remember TO? There was also additional Pro Bowlers Miles Austin and Dez Bryant.

Prolific receivers.......Didn't Romio find them somewhat useful? I dare say....helpful?

What about a quality running game to take pressure off the passing game? Any Pro Bowlers or expensive decisions in regards to that position for Romo and Dak. I seem to recall that both QB's had a season in which their RB led the entire league in yardage.
How did they both fare those seasons?

Well, when Murray led the league in 2014 it was the only season in which Tony Romo led the league in passer rating. When Zeke did it in 2016, Dak broke the rookie record for passer rating and number of attempts before 1st career INT while the tem enjoyed an 11 game winning streak.

Could there have been a relationship between the RB's record seasons and their QB's success? Was it usually helpful.

Jerry and the Ciwbiys did everything they could to make sure the offense was going to be productive and he did it to the detriment of the defense so there is no way that the Ciwbiys set these QB up for failure.

Heck, the team wouldn't even put Romo on the field as a QB for three seasons until the offense was readymade for him. Tony Romo holds the record for NFL time as an eventual starting quarterback before throwing his first regular season pass. He threw his first pass in the fifth game of his fourth season.
Does that sound like hanging Tony out to dry. Of course not, it's the complete opposite.

Jerry may be guilty of poor cap decisions
as well as lack of a coherent plan. However, not acquiring talent to assist the offense has been his calling card. He has favored drafting offense over defense more than once but he never made a decision without determining how it was going to help his quarterback.

It is an entire franchise division's responsibility determine the needs of their team and the best was to build that team successfully. Their very first consideration is how the decision effects their leader on the field.

In addition, what is usually the next thing a franchise does after signing their QB to a record contract? They determine how the new salary will fit in their cap which means freeing up money. They are certainly not going to get rid of the offensive players that gives a new quarterback a fighting chance.

This is just another example of a media member that was way too proud of the C- he received in college for "Statistics for Journalism Majors"

 

[Flamma]

Eli goes home that day if Patrick Crayton just doesn't pull up on his route with 17 seconds left.
That defense carried Eli in those 2007 playoffs. I mean, they held the highest scoring team of all time--the Pats- to 14 points.

People also forget that Eli is the NFL's all-time leader in playoff one-and-dones with 4.

Not only that play, but if he doesn't drop the pass the previous drive. That drop is 2nd to only Jackie Smith in Cowboys history.

Eli played pretty good in the playoffs, but he was very fortunate too at times. No one would even be talking HOF but for the helmet catch. A fluke play. How many QB's in the hall of fame today can you say wouldn't be there but for one play?

 

[kskboys]

Hold up.....

While i would like to believe that this study is a true indication of the help that these quarterbacks received, I must temper this information with another study that would show the percentages of the salary cap dedicated to the defense.

Where and to whom did the cap money go to?

Between 2006 and 2010, no NFL team had more Pro Bowl seasons generated by their offensive lines than the Dallas Cowboys. We all know about the kind of offensive line in front of Dak. In his rookie season three of the five were 1st team All Pro. This means that three of the linemen protecting him were considered the best at their position in the entire league.

Wouldn't that kind of "help' be a little more direct, a little more useful?

Let's talk receivers.

Did Jerry and the Cowboys prioritize that position somewhat in Dak's case? Did they make some effort to go out and acquire quality players for that position? That costs money, They had to pay those guys. If money is being poured into the offense, how does that affect their ability to go out and upgrade the defense?

Tony Romo was given a pair of Hall of Famers to work with. We all know who his best friend on the team was, a guy by the name of Jason Witten. And do you also remember TO? There was also additional Pro Bowlers Miles Austin and Dez Bryant.

Prolific receivers.......Didn't Romio find them somewhat useful? I dare say....helpful?

What about a quality running game to take pressure off the passing game? Any Pro Bowlers or expensive decisions in regards to that position for Romo and Dak. I seem to recall that both QB's had a season in which their RB led the entire league in yardage.
How did they both fare those seasons?

Well, when Murray led the league in 2014 it was the only season in which Tony Romo led the league in passer rating. When Zeke did it in 2016, Dak broke the rookie record for passer rating and number of attempts before 1st career INT while the tem enjoyed an 11 game winning streak.

Could there have been a relationship between the RB's record seasons and their QB's success? Was it usually helpful.

Jerry and the Ciwbiys did everything they could to make sure the offense was going to be productive and he did it to the detriment of the defense so there is no way that the Ciwbiys set these QB up for failure.

Heck, the team wouldn't even put Romo on the field as a QB for three seasons until the offense was readymade for him. Tony Romo holds the record for NFL time as an eventual starting quarterback before throwing his first regular season pass. He threw his first pass in the fifth game of his fourth season.
Does that sound like hanging Tony out to dry. Of course not, it's the complete opposite.

Jerry may be guilty of poor cap decisions
as well as lack of a coherent plan. However, not acquiring talent to assist the offense has been his calling card. He has favored drafting offense over defense more than once but he never made a decision without determining how it was going to help his quarterback.

It is an entire franchise division's responsibility determine the needs of their team and the best was to build that team successfully. Their very first consideration is how the decision effects their leader on the field.

In addition, what is usually the next thing a franchise does after signing their QB to a record contract? They determine how the new salary will fit in their cap which means freeing up money. They are certainly not going to get rid of the offensive players that gives a new quarterback a fighting chance.

This is just another example of a media member that was way too proud of the C- he received in college for "Statistics for Journalism Majors"

Yes, and there is the disconnect. It's more like how Jerry THOUGHT it would help his QB. Since he doesn't understand team building at the NFL level, way too often those moves to "help" his QB were not the moves needed.

Basing anything on number of probowls is very weak analysis.

 

[plasticman]

Yes, and there is the disconnect. It's more like how Jerry THOUGHT it would help his QB. Since he doesn't understand team building at the NFL level, way too often those moves to "help" his QB were not the moves needed.

Basing anything on number of probowls is very weak analysis.

The offenses were not created specifically for Romo or Dak. Romo came in after the offense had been mostly built, The offensive line was there, the Pro Bowl TE was there, The two headed running game of Barber and Julius Jones as well. TO was already a starter prior to Romo throwing his first pass. This team was built with the assistance of Bill Parcells and Sean Peyton.

In Dak's case, he wasn't even supposed to be on the field, nothing had been planned for him prior to starting. His runningback, Zeke, was drafted in front of him that year. The offensive line had been built. By the way, the construction of that line was not deliberate, two of the three All Pros were taken because the player wanted was already drafted. Also, if Jones had his say, Zack Martin would be Johnny Manziel.

I agree that quite often Jerry and company made the wrong choices and it didn't really help the quarterback. However, that was the intent.

Basing talent level on Pro Bowls is a method used for entry into the Hall of Fame. The voting for Pro Bowl is weighted as one third fans, one third media, and one third players and coaches. Pro bowls, therefore, seem to be pretty important to NFL executives, coaches, the media, fans and I will include player agents.

Obviously, you don't base a player analysis on Pro Bowls alone, it is one element. It is useful because that the majority of people associated with the NFL believe he is one of the best at his position.

If someone tried to argue that Larry Allen didn't belong in the Hall of Fame, how would you demonstrate that he does? What are some of the first facts that you would point out?

 

[Cowfan75]

Like I said, they lost more than they got, so it really was like doing nothing.

Like I said, that will be determined when the season starts.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Like I said, that will be determined when the season starts.

Its not a debate, its a fact.

Nothing to do with the season coming up or the results.

 

[Cowfan75]

Its not a debate, its a fact.

Nothing to do with the season coming up or the results.

Yeah, you're right...games and results don't matter!!

 

[kskboys]

The offenses were not created specifically for Romo or Dak. Romo came in after the offense had been mostly built, The offensive line was there, the Pro Bowl TE was there, The two headed running game of Barber and Julius Jones as well. TO was already a starter prior to Romo throwing his first pass. This team was built with the assistance of Bill Parcells and Sean Peyton.

In Dak's case, he wasn't even supposed to be on the field, nothing had been planned for him prior to starting. His runningback, Zeke, was drafted in front of him that year. The offensive line had been built. By the way, the construction of that line was not deliberate, two of the three All Pros were taken because the player wanted was already drafted. Also, if Jones had his say, Zack Martin would be Johnny Manziel.

I agree that quite often Jerry and company made the wrong choices and it didn't really help the quarterback. However, that was the intent.

Basing talent level on Pro Bowls is a method used for entry into the Hall of Fame. The voting for Pro Bowl is weighted as one third fans, one third media, and one third players and coaches. Pro bowls, therefore, seem to be pretty important to NFL executives, coaches, the media, fans and I will include player agents.

Obviously, you don't base a player analysis on Pro Bowls alone, it is one element. It is useful because that the majority of people associated with the NFL believe he is one of the best at his position.

If someone tried to argue that Larry Allen didn't belong in the Hall of Fame, how would you demonstrate that he does? What are some of the first facts that you would point out?

Considered the best player at his position for his entire career. Also considered top 5 at his position all time.

Maybe Pro Bowls used to carry more weight, but they no longer matter all that much. Too many opt outs, and now the super bowl participants don't play in it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yeah, you're right...games and results don't matter!!

Those are your words.

 

[DFWJC]

Considered the best player at his position for his entire career. Also considered top 5 at his position all time.

Maybe Pro Bowls used to carry more weight, but they no longer matter all that much. Too many opt outs, and now the super bowl participants don't play in it.

Pro Bowls are weird nowadays.

Matt Stafford, with nearly 5000 yards, 24 more TDs than turnovers, a 103 rating last year, and the only QB ever to go the whole season without a 4th quarter turnover, somehow did not make the Pro Bowl.
Yet a few years ago, Mitch Trubiski did make it.

 

[Cowfan75]

Those are your words.

Yes...they are.

 

[Flamma]

Nobody knows it or has seen it because the season hasn't happened yet. But they won the Super Bowl last year because they did what Jerry will never do, and that is get serious in FA. Does it work every single time? No. Will it ever work Jerry's way? No.

Jerry knows this, he just doesn't do it anymore. He used to do it. How do you think our 2007 team emerged? T.O. didn't sign himself. At some point in time, Jerry just decided he's not doing it anymore. Because like you said, it doesn't always work out. That's partially the reason the Cowboys went 5-11 three years in a row.

He's decided to take the pragmatic, conservative route to team building. The chances of a championship are low, but so are the chances of a 5-11 season.

 

[Cowfan75]

Jerry knows this, he just doesn't do it anymore. He used to do it. How do you think our 2007 team emerged? T.O. didn't sign himself. At some point in time, Jerry just decided he's not doing it anymore. Because like you said, it doesn't always work out. That's partially the reason the Cowboys went 5-11 three years in a row.

He's decided to take the pragmatic, conservative route to team building. The chances of a championship are low, but so are the chances of a 5-11 season.

And that's the problem: Jerry just needs to stay competitive. As long as we win 8-9 games a season, he's good. If we win the division, that's as good as a Super Bowl to him. He's gone beyond conservative to just plain not caring. I mean, after our exit last year...and his plan is to just cut Cooper and dump all the money saved on Gregory. That is as indifferent as you can get.