News: Jerry Jones intrigued by Lincoln Riley?

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Lose Sunday and there will be double that.

I think if some of Riley's Rangers watched a little more Big 12 ball, especially those defenses, they might not be so hot for him. There aren't a lot of Texas Tech D's in the NFL. What didn't they learn from the Chip Kelly experiment?
The SEC is wildly overrated. Those teams don't fare so well outside of the conference other than 2 or 3 teams. And their offenses generally SUCK more than Big 12 defenses.

Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Florida for the past several years until now......it ain't all that special.
 

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There's only two things that come out of Oklahoma...... one's a steer and that's right up Jerry's alley. A coach with no balls! He does have hope since he is originally from the great state of Texas!!!

I didnt know Garrett is from Oklahoma
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Look what he did with Baker.

Look what he did with Kyler.

Look at the magic he's doing with Hurts.

Can he do that with Dak?
erod, he's had the best OL in college ball and has depth and excellent WR's. Not to mention he's had really good and undervalued RB's. The question isn't about helping the QB as much as the run game as that's really his forte and the reason Stoops brought him in.

I have little doubt he could help this offense but could he take it to the 30+ a game level because with this D, that's what's going to be necessary to even have a winning season. And who's going to be his DC, his DC from OU? Make that 38+ a game.
 

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This is another example of a ridiculously misleading title to an article. There isn't one iota of evidence to support the assertion that Jones is intrigued by Riley if he gets rid of Garrett. Anyone can be a reporter these days if all they have to do is print whatever they can think up in their minds without the requirement of supporting evidence.

And these lackeys run with it...lol
 

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The SEC is wildly overrated. Those teams don't fare so well outside of the conference other than 2 or 3 teams. And their offenses generally SUCK more than Big 12 defenses.

Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Florida for the past several years until now......it ain't all that special.
It is compared to the BIG 12 in balance and D, that's my point. What the SEC and Big 10 do is closer to the old NFL, the Big 12 is closer to the AFL.
 

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Less than Garrett. The Joneses do not want a guy to run his own show, they want a guy to do what they tell him to do and not make waves.

Get ready for it should they make the change. All of those years of Garrett trying to work on Booger to get him to change from the sexy picks to the foundation and stop thinking triplets is going to start over.

Know what I think? I think in a very short time those that were ecstatic over getting Garrett's ticket punched are not going to be so happy because they didn't appreciate the value of Garrett. He's not a sideline coach, not a tactician but what he is to that FO is a voice of reason about personnel and building a team. He's a Booger influencer and when he's gone, there will be one less if he hires Riley. Booger is not listening to some ex college coach new to the NFL unless it's about the one thing he hired him for, the offense.


I agree. When Garrett is gone we may all wish for those good ole' days back.
 

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The problem is you don't want Riley bringing his staff from OU and you don't know if they'd even leave. This was Kingsbury's problem, he had to rely on his GM to help build a staff because he wasn't in their fraternity.

There's a rule that no HC better break if he bolts to the NFL, leave the staff alone, which is why you see most of them struggle. Any HC that drains the coaching ranks at his school will never have a job at a FBS school again. When Saban left LSU, Spurrier FL and Petrino LOU, they did not take the staff with them, they knew better. And they struggled with strangers as their staff, NFL guys that don't want college guys in their frat house. And think about how that looks to parents of future recruits for them all to pull out on their sons.

If they hire Riley, he will get his staff selected for him and he will inherit some of these coaches they have now. I don't know if all of the coaches' contracts expire when Garrett's does but Riley would have his work cut out for him. He slid into a cherry job at OU, this ain't no cherry job.
 

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Less than Garrett. The Joneses do not want a guy to run his own show, they want a guy to do what they tell him to do and not make waves.

Get ready for it should they make the change. All of those years of Garrett trying to work on Booger to get him to change from the sexy picks to the foundation and stop thinking triplets is going to start over.

Know what I think? I think in a very short time those that were ecstatic over getting Garrett's ticket punched are not going to be so happy because they didn't appreciate the value of Garrett. He's not a sideline coach, not a tactician but what he is to that FO is a voice of reason about personnel and building a team. He's a Booger influencer and when he's gone, there will be one less if he hires Riley. Booger is not listening to some ex college coach new to the NFL unless it's about the one thing he hired him for, the offense.
This is exactly why I wish they would just promote JG to a front office job. I couldn't understand the Jones's love affair with him until watching All-or-Nothing. He seems like a great employee and part of the family. I think JJ wants to win, but he would rather have a friend go 10-6 then an enemy that goes 12-4. I think JG would be a great mentor and person to work under. I just think the game needs someone willing to take more chances. The Jones's have enough money. Let him have some director title and bring on Lincoln to shock the league with a high powered offense.
 

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You heard it here first....if we dump massive money at Riley's doorstep and he comes on board, the instant fear of the boob being gone will result in national outcry calling for HC's salary to somehow figure into a teams salary cap. Trust me....the jealousy and slight panic will be obvious.

------This is exactly why I wish they would just promote JG to a front office job

I'm tired of seeing his goofy face and blank expressions....and don't get me started on his press conferences.
 

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This begs the question, is Lincoln Riley as intrigued with Jerry as Jerry is with him?

There's also an issue around how much Jerry would be willing to spend to get him!

It's being said lately that several GMs around the NFL will be vying for his services.
He won't come here.

Who wants to be hog-tied to a meddling drunk and his inept son?

Nothing will change.........
 

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Here's the challenge in hiring Riley. He's an offensive coach just like McVay and Shanahan and how is McVay's team doing with a very good DC? SF started building their D and really hasn't stopped since the Walsh years. Harbaugh took them to the Big Dance because of that D. If McVay's O struggles, he's done because the D's not there as it was last season, which is why they game up the farm for Ramsey.

For those that do not follow college ball, the imbalance of quality O and D players is skewed to the O side and it is difficult for teams to build and keep good D's unless they're a D recruiting revolving door like OSU, WIS, Bama and a couple of others.

I do not doubt Riley could help the O but could he help the team? He would need the best DC money can buy, that sound like the Joneses to you? Or are they the type to think 'job done, got a HC'? Riley's not a HC, he's an OC/QBC combo, a very good one but that's all he is.

The last thing the Cowboys need is an O coach feeding the follow the ball mind of the owner. They need a D minded HC and a good OC. The Cowboys have had 3 good HC's, what were their backgrounds? And Belichick's? The Cowboys need to hire the best DC in the NFL as their HC, a guy that's been around the league enough to know the coaches well, not a college coach that has no knowledge. I, of course, am dreaming because the Joneses are going to force coaches on the HC just as they have this one.
I disagree. The league is driven by offense. Maybe less so than a year ago (do to all the offensive pass interference calls), but it's still an offensive league. Throw out Brady and the Pats, and every year you can bank on 1-2 of the top offenses making it to the Superbowl.

This is a copycat league. That's why I say, young offensive coaches have so much success. It might be short lived, but they often come out of the gate and the league has to play catch up. That's why I would go after someone like Lincoln and pair him with a Greg Williams-like coach on defense. Experience on defense is needed because you have to react to the other teams offense. But I believe Lincoln could take the league by storm in his first year or 2. The Rams are suffering right now from the Gurley deal, injuries, and some of the trades they made. Look, they took a chance and went all in...made it to the Superbowl. I would take that any day of the week.
 

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I will tell you what, the table is certainly set for Garrett to get fired mid season and for Richard to take over to finish things off. If Richard kicks total *** then he gets the job, but if he falters he is let go and Lincoln gets offered the moon and hires his own staff.. Man, this would be exciting...

Also keep in mind if Jerry believes hiring Lincoln gets the fan base and media back sniffing at his jock he will be all over it.
 

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Super Bowl appearance with a loss this year with Garrett and Garrett signs extension

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We display pitiful effort the rest of the season and Garrett is released and Jerry hires Riley?

Which would you choose and why?

I'd take the Super Bowl appearance, but I don't think it's going to happen, so it probably doesn't matter.
 

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I will tell you what, the table is certainly set for Garrett to get fired mid season and for Richard to take over to finish things off. If Richard kicks total *** then he gets the job, but if he falters he is let go and Lincoln gets offered the moon and hires his own staff.. Man, this would be exciting...

Also keep in mind if Jerry believes hiring Lincoln gets the fan base and media back sniffing at his jock he will be all over it.

Exactly, so, we really have nothing to lose by this. In fact, we do have a bye week coming up, so, if Garrett has lost the team, Richard will have the entire bye week to get the team ready to play the Giants.
 

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Exactly, so, we really have nothing to lose by this. In fact, we do have a bye week coming up, so, if Garrett has lost the team, Richard will have the entire bye week to get the team ready to play the Giants.
YESSSSSS!!! Lets keep our fingers crossed the Cowboys lose... I can't believe I'm saying that but mean it.. My pure lack of respect for Garrett as a coach has forced me into this position..
 

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If he's making top head coach money, he has power.

Riley wouldn't have to acquiesce out of gratefulness.

And Jerry's running out of time.
But again why here under Jerry instead of places where he’d have more control and possibly with a more prolific QB. Just doesn’t add up to me unless he’s run out of OU which doesn’t seem likely.
 

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This has been a baseless rumor for quite some time. I am not paying much attention to it at this stage. Not worth dreaming about.
 

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The SEC is wildly overrated. Those teams don't fare so well outside of the conference other than 2 or 3 teams. And their offenses generally SUCK more than Big 12 defenses.

Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Florida for the past several years until now......it ain't all that special.
Yea, but those 2 or 3 teams can beat anyone.

Strongest conference at the top. Boring offenses but supreme talent which the NFL draft can attest too.

Big 12 is basically the OU conference. Texas is getting better but then it drops off drastically.

If SEC didn’t eventually knock each other off they’d be 5 teams in Top 10.

The Big 10 is second best conference. Oh St and then maybe Wis, PennSt and Mich are elite teams pending what year. But I’d take top 3 or 4 in SEC against any other top 3 o4 in their conference.
 
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