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News: Jerry Jones intrigued by Lincoln Riley?

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by Big_D, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. CowboysFaninHouston

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    exactly...and parcells was money driven. at the time he was going through divorce or something and had financial issues. plus as usual ego. could he do it? he made a lot of difference, but quit at the end.
     
  2. CouchCoach

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    What was that last SB if not a D game? Both of those teams got there with their D's.

    Paring Riley with a Greg Williams-like coach is easier said than done. Who was Garrett paired with, Linehan paired with and Moore paired with. Do you think that the Joneses are going to wise up about the importance of coaching just because they hire Riley?

    And I will argue all day and into the night that offense is the engine that drives it.
     
  3. stilltheguru

    stilltheguru Well-Known Member

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    Garrett hired this correct staff. Richard and Rod are Garrett. So was Linnehan
     
  4. Reverend Conehead

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    At first I had hope with the Parcells hiring that Jones had finally figured out what is obvious to the rest of us. An elite coach will not want to coach here if he's not given the autonomy that he needs to run things the way he sees fit. If we don't replace Garrett with a quality HC who gets to do things his way, we might as well just keep Garrett.
     
  5. CouchCoach

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    I don't think Parcells quit. I think he felt he had done all he could to keep Booger form himself and he realized that the new NFL, the Players NFL was no longer a place where he could coach. The repetitive OL penalties drove him crazy and he couldn't do anything about it.

    One thing you used to see was when a player got a penalty, he came out of the game as punishment. His number was called by the ref and he had to go to the sideline with the camera on him. That's gone now because there's no depth and Parcells was an old schooler like Landry, Grant and Lombardi, all were dependent on a certain amount of intimidation. Think they'd make it in a league with a bunch of whiners tweeting their hurt feelings and being forced to play them. How do you think any one of those coaches would have reacted to Antonio Brown videoing the locker room HC address after a game and sending that out?

    Parcells didn't quit on the Cowboys or the NFL, it quit on him.
     
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  6. CouchCoach

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    Couldn't agree more, can't change the coach without changing the culture, the real problem.
     
  7. BigD_95

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  8. Big_D

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    Even a couple wins means nothing. There's no hope at all with Garrett here. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Just like the owner!!
     
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  9. TheCoolFan

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    Just go get the Air Raid king himself, Mike Leach
     
  10. CowboysFaninHouston

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    I don't disagree that parcells was an old schooler. he relied on execution and players and he would practice every situation to get/have the team ready. he also adjusted to the times. he was a great motivator and game day manager. he went from old school, smash mouth football to hiring Payton and let him run the offense and be innovative. I think at first he ran everything, showed Jerry how to organize and run a football operations...but Jerry got cocky...and went out and got TO. Parcells didn't want any part of that. to your point, he didn't want pre-Madonna's on the team, he wanted lunch pale guys....TO was disruptive to his team and the culture he was trying to build.

    getting TO was such a Jerry move...he has done it four time...once with Galloway....then with TO, then with Roy Williams....then he went out and got cooper. seemingly this last one working out the best.
     
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  11. Cydios

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    It's truly not a question on whether he's good or not, it's whether Jerry will give him enough power to let him do his job.
     
  12. Syron

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    Top 4 scoring teams last year: KC, Saints, Rams, Pats. All four played in the Conference Championship. Top 4 defenses: Bears, Ravens, Titans, Jags. Rams and Pats had good defenses, but their offenses drove them to the Superbowl.

    I don't disagree that its hard to find a Williams-like coach. But we had one here, so I won't say they can't do it again. I believe JJ thought JG was that young league changing coach. Pairing him with Wade was his probably his version of the Rams. Didn't work out for us though in the post season, but we had some great years. I often wonder what would have happened if Wade had been DC from the go and not head coach.
     
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  13. Syron

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    I think talent, match ups and coaching win championships. KC was a few plays away with their horrible defense. Rams were bottom third of the league in defense, but they had a lot of talent...and the refs.

    I am not saying we shouldn't invest in the defense...in fact I would push hard to acquire more talent via trades or the draft. Our line needs a lot of work, but we need someone in with an aggressive scheme...not more bend not break mentality.

    Riley has the tools in place right now on offense for this to be explosive. We have already seen that. That's why I think we take advantage of this fact while they are still young.
     
  14. daboyzruleperiod

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  15. Cmac

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    Lincoln would be in for a rude awakening.
     
  16. Beast_from_East

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    I know almost nothing about him, but I would take him in a heartbeat over Clappy:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
     
  17. Beast_from_East

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    NO...………….the last thing the Cowboys need is another season of Garrett on the sidelines...……….I will take anybody else at this point
     
  18. CowboysFaninHouston

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    I question Riley's ability and scheme working in the NFL. I also question his ability to be a HC at the NFL level. he has a learning curve of at least 2 years. if we were rebuilding, I would say, take a shot, if it doesn't work, then you are reloading for the next coach. but we are as you said, have talent and need a proven NFL coach....not a college, will it work out or not coach.
     
  19. jhj7098

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    You don't think the Cowboys could match or exceed that? They could pay double what Saban or even Belichick makes if they wanted.
     
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  20. CoachD

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    Prediction Time:

    Ok wow this one is a tough call because both teams suck so predicting a winner won't be easy and I'll still not sure who I like as of right now. The Cowboys are really banged up and even if Smith and Collins play it still doesn't guarantee anything plus Cooper looks to be out (huge loss). Now as far as the Cowboys defense goes, um what defense? The Jets who were last in every possible offensive category torched the Cowboy's defense last week which was extremely embarrassing. As far as the Eagles go they're not much better. Their defense is just as pathetic as the Cowboys and Kurt Cousin ripped them apart last week. So with that being said what gives? If the Cowboys lose Garrett is done (should have been fired at halftime against the Jets) if they win they're still in first place in an awful division. Now there is one thing that the Cowboys have going for them Dak Prescott dominates the NFC East and the Eagles but in the end I think it will come down to a Brett Maher chip shot field goal attempt. Sorry folks wide right.

    Eagles 24
    Cowboys 23
     

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