Jerry Jones just explained everything during the press conference

[theogt]

Ah, so the "This makes zero sense" was just for flavor? Gotcha.

I know it'd be a real struggle for you to respond without kicking off the post with an insult, so I understand.

Your logic was in error, as I pointed out. Your statements were comprehensible, however. Hope that clears things up for you.

 

[TheCount]

Your logic was in error, as I pointed out. Your statements were comprehensible, however. Hope that clears things up for you.

No, could you please explain further. Your insights on my opinions are fascinating and I am genuinely interested in what you think of them.

 

[theogt]

No, could you please explain further. Your insights on my opinions are fascinating and I am genuinely interested in what you think of them.

Okay, I'll try to say it in a way that you can understand.

You dun said some dumb ****, brah!11!

Better?

 

[TheCount]

Okay, I'll try to say it in a way that you can understand and relate.

You dun said some dumb ****, brah!11!

Better?

Oh, you.

How to can always come up with such clever and eloquent witticisms is always a wonder.

 

[hra8700]

This post makes zero since. I'm sure they had plenty of people on the board that don't "fit" the team. It doesn't mean they wouldn't ever select them -- it just means they wouldn't select them where they were slotted to go. If Floyd was there in the 2nd, I'm sure they would have picked him. But he didn't present the value that they wanted at 18. In the end, they got two immediate contributors for a guy that wouldn't even play all 3 downs on this team.

They'll get double the snap total out of Frederick and Williams in year 1 as compared to Floyd. In the long-term, they'll both likely be 3-down starters, with Floyd being a rotational guy. This is an absolute no-brainer in hind-sight.

Why does floyd fit in with the vikings but not with kiffins scheme? The vikings play a variation of the 4-3 under (sure, the sde and nt have different roles in their scheme, but the role of the 3 tech is the same). Furthermore draft analysts that know what theyre talking about like bill polian and bruce kebric and daniel jeremiah all think hes a fast twitch 3 tech.

The fact that dt's play so few snaps and are still paid so much and get drafted so high is a testament to how important they are, not an argument against taking one hogh in the draft.

 

[Rockytop6]

I agree...if they had those three ranked that high...then there are bigger issues here. The thing is...Jerry doesn't even need to make these comments. He consistently acts like the he has this 'elite' football reputation to uphold and justify everything. He just needs to come out and say he added some good players and stop there.

Yes, if they ranked the first three above # 27 of the first round then we have far greater problems than I even imagined. I have been trusting Cisco too much.

 

[visionary]

Jerry is a liar.There is no way they had Frederick,Escobar,and Williams ranked as the 22nd-27th players on their board.If that is true,that tells you everything you need to know about this organization.By saying that,he's basically telling every Cowboy fan out there that he thinks they're stupid.That they will buy into it.

this ^^

our front office is crap because of the 2 joneses who run it

jerry is such a football-idiot that when he says something he thinks will make him sound intelligent, he does not realize that it makes him seem even more idiotic

if you had gavin frederick, escobar, and williams between 22-27 on your board, fire your staff right now becasue you will be better off throwing darts to make picks in the future

stupidest thing i have heard in a long time

 

[visionary]

Doesn't fit our defense? Why's he on the board then? I'm not even that high on Floyd, I'm talking from a draft strategy standpoint.

great question and there is no answer to this question

my gut feeling is that when floyd dropped, they panicked and it was "why is he dropping? what dont we know?" because our GM does not trust his own scouting because he has no idea what scouting means

you make stupid mistakes when you throw out a years worth of scouting in 5 minutes

just another day for jerry

 

[big dog cowboy]

great question and there is no answer to this question

my gut feeling is that when floyd dropped, they panicked and it was "why is he dropping? what dont we know?" because our GM does not trust his own scouting because he has no idea what scouting means

you make stupid mistakes when you throw out a years worth of scouting in 5 minutes

just another day for jerry

Just like they panicked when Dez was falling? Oh that's right, we moved up because he followed years worth of scouting.

 

[visionary]

Just like they panicked when Dez was falling? Oh that's right, we moved up because he followed years worth of scouting.

so are you going to explain why floyd was not picked at 18 even though HE WAS THE HIGHEST RATED PLAYER ON OUR BOARD

or just go cry in the corner?

dont say "he wasnt a scheme fit" because he was on our board so we obviously wanted him

 

[yimyammer]

Minnesota plays the same defense under Leslie Frazier,and they took Floyd.The Cowboys are the only ones I've heard that don't think he fits the Tampa 2.If they didn't want him,that's fine,but quit treating people like their stupid,by making up
things.

This drives me nuts about this organization, they feel the need to constantly spin everything and insult the intelligence of anyone with half a brain in the process.

Why are they so afraid of the truth? Have the balls to stand up for your decisions and if Garrett didn't like the move, say that and let whomever made the decision own it. Then we can accurately evaluate the move in due time.

People make mistakes, they dont agree on everything and reasonable fans know this, just come out and admit that "the process" doesn't mean perfect harmony and while they may not always agree on everything, in the end they move on and rally together for the common goal. The passion of winning brings emotion and sometimes tension to team building, big deal admit the truth and deal with it.

You know they wont touch it with a ten foot pole---> the actual emotions and feelings that appeared obvious to those that watched the live cam feed when that trade occurred.

I think they'd be better served by just admitting what actually happened and tell everyone sorry its the truth, deal with it.

I'd rather deal with the truth than the constant BS Jerry tries to serve up. It makes me sick and I avoid listening to anything he has to say because its completely meaningless

 

[PullMyFinger]

Broaddus seemed pretty sure Floyd was on the board. I believe he even gave a number, but he may be misinformed, of course.

OK youre butthurt, we know it, enough already

 

[PullMyFinger]

Reading is fundamental.

No one said he couldn't play in a Tampa 2 or a 4-3.

What was said was that in our Tampa 2 we're putting a premium on 3 technique pass rushers, who can quickly get after the quarterback.

And obviously Floyd couldnt, he had 5 freaking sacks

 

[PullMyFinger]

He had 4.5 sacks in 4 seasons of play and 3.5 of those sacks came in two bowl games. He is not a pass rusher, he just isn't.


The stats don't lie, Monte Kiffen wants pressure DTs that can shoot the gaps and put pressure on the QB.

Clearly Floyd has problems getting to the QB, the game tape doesn't lie and neither does his stats.

^^^ read this carefully babies ^^^

 

[PullMyFinger]

This post makes zero since. I'm sure they had plenty of people on the board that don't "fit" the team. It doesn't mean they wouldn't ever select them -- it just means they wouldn't select them where they were slotted to go. If Floyd was there in the 2nd, I'm sure they would have picked him. But he didn't present the value that they wanted at 18. In the end, they got two immediate contributors for a guy that wouldn't even play all 3 downs on this team.

They'll get double the snap total out of Frederick and Williams in year 1 as compared to Floyd. In the long-term, they'll both likely be 3-down starters, with Floyd being a rotational guy. This is an absolute no-brainer in hind-sight.

Cant believe I agree with you.

Another thing also, considering the trade and why they drafted Frederick in round 1. They can sign him for 5 years, second rounders can only be signed for four.

 

[PullMyFinger]

great question and there is no answer to this question

my gut feeling is that when floyd dropped, they panicked and it was "why is he dropping? what dont we know?" because our GM does not trust his own scouting because he has no idea what scouting means

you make stupid mistakes when you throw out a years worth of scouting in 5 minutes

just another day for jerry

Another clueless Jerry bashing troll

 

[newlander]

If they really had Frederick, Escobar and Williams in their top 25 players, I would absolutely love to see that draft board. Part of me wonders how many players they actually rank. If you only rank half, or a quarter of the available players, then it's easy to say "we drafted our BPA" with a straight face.

..........he's SUCH a clown....:laugh2:

 

[Ratmatt]

..........he's SUCH a clown....:laugh2:

When Floyd started to fall towards the Cowboys,maybe Jerry threw everyone out of the war room,and moved Floyd way down the board.:laugh1:That's what he did in 2001 with Quincy Carter,except he moved him up the board 2 rounds.Probably did the same with Frederick.:laugh2:

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I didn't care for Floyd.

Not enough pass rush.

Winning in the NFL is about passing effectively and defending the pass.

Floyd is a two-down guy who's not going to contribute much in making the pass rush/defense better.

I'd rather have Frederick at 31 plus Williams at 74.

 

[honyock]

I didn't care for Floyd.

Not enough pass rush.

Winning in the NFL is about passing effectively and defending the pass.

Floyd is a two-down guy who's not going to contribute much in making the pass rush/defense better.

I'd rather have Frederick at 31 plus Williams at 74.

I'm with you. I wasn't a huge fan of Floyd going in, and I'm fine with Frederick/Williams in the exchange. My question was, if he's a fast twitch elite pass rusher, why in the world wouldn't that be reflected in sack numbers?